Caroline Kennedy repeats 'you know' 142 time in Interview

[Cicero]

Where are the verbal tics? were they edited out?

Oh, then I guess you now admit that Sarah Palin had an affair with her husband's business partner. After all, it was reported in the Enquirer. Why are you not chastising Caribou Barbie for lying to us?

If "You know" is a "verbal tic" then so is "I was like." And why not add the "ing" to the colloquial "workin' " if AP is so concerned with making people sound brighter than they are? Could it be that the AP has a liberal bent? Say it ain't so? But you seem to buy into the notion that Caroline's normal speech pattern is tic infested. Since when is AP the Orkin Man?

I stated the NE makes errors, just like the other msm outlets you hold in such high esteem.

BTW: The "Caribou Barbie" moniker is unintentionally flattering. Caroline would probably be Boston Bony.

 

[gdnp]

If "You know" is a "verbal tic" then so is "I was like." And why not add the "ing" to the colloquial "workin' " if AP is so concerned with making people sound brighter than they are? Could it be that the AP has a liberal bent? Say it ain't so? But you seem to buy into the notion that Caroline's normal speech pattern is tic infested. Since when is AP the Orkin Man?

The "like" in the quote you posted is not a tic, it is part of the phrase. Please advise how the "like" could be edited out of the quote you posted and retain the meaning:

"At first, I was nervous," he said. "Then I was like, 'Whatever."'

I stated the NE makes errors, just like the other msm outlets you hold in such high esteem.

Errors? They reported they had a bombshell, withheld the news for a week to allow interest to build, and then released allegations in dribs and drabs over the next several weeks. Please supply me with evidence of similar behavior by the NYT or other MSM outlet.

 

[Cicero]

The "like" in the quote you posted is not a tic, it is part of the phrase. Please advise how the "like" could be edited out of the quote you posted and retain the meaning:




Errors? They reported they had a bombshell, withheld the news for a week to allow interest to build, and then released allegations in dribs and drabs over the next several weeks. Please supply me with evidence of similar behavior by the NYT or other MSM outlet.

Right. None of Caroline's "you know's" were an integral part of her sentences? None of them? Wow! You are defending the indefensible.

Does the name Jayson Blair ring a bell? Infamous New York Times journalist who just happened to make up his stories out of whole cloth.

How about The Washington Post's Janet Cook? You must be new to the American msm.

 

[technoextreme]

Right. None of Caroline's "you know's" were an integral part of her sentences? None of them? Wow! You are defending the indefensible.

If you listen to her talk then you'd realize they are verbal ticks because the you knows are followed by other verbal ticks.

 

[Cicero]

If you listen to her talk then you'd realize they are verbal ticks because the you knows are followed by other verbal ticks.

Should the TV news also clean up Caroline's normal speech patterns before airing her exchanges with the media or the public? Why does the AP feel it necessary to clean up Caroline's prose while the NYT let it all hang out?

Reuters even went so far as to remove any use of the word "terrorist" from their 911 stories. What's up with these news agencies?


http://homepage.mac.com/bkerstetter/writersblock/reutersexplanation.html

 

[technoextreme]

What's up with these news agencies?

Nah. My question is what's up with you. The only reason why the news agencies edited is so that you can read it. Speech doesn't translate well directly to text and for that reason I never thought that interviews were word for word copied.

 

[gdnp]

Right. None of Caroline's "you know's" were an integral part of her sentences? None of them? Wow! You are defending the indefensible.

Read the transcript. Do the sentences make sense without the "you knows?" I think they do. Now read Johnson's statement. Does it make sense with the word "like" removed? You know the answer to that question. (bonus question: can the "you know" be removed from the preceding sentence without losing its meaning?) No. So one is a tic, and the other is integral.

Does the name Jayson Blair ring a bell? Infamous New York Times journalist who just happened to make up his stories out of whole cloth.

How about The Washington Post's Janet Cook? You must be new to the American msm.

You compare the journalistic ethics of the NYP and washington post to those of the Enquirer, and think I am defending the indefensible? What's your opinion of refereeing in WWE vs. the NBA? After all, an NBA ref was convicted of cheating last year. That makes them equal, right?

 

[Cicero]

Nah. My question is what's up with you. The only reason why the news agencies edited is so that you can read it. Speech doesn't translate well directly to text and for that reason I never thought that interviews were word for word copied.

Do you think the NYT is a radio show? It is the same medium as the AP. Since the NYT didn't edit out information a New Yorker would need to know about the communication abilities of a possible appointment for Senator, then neither should have the AP.

 

[Cicero]

Read the transcript. Do the sentences make sense without the "you knows?" I think they do. Now read Johnson's statement. Does it make sense with the word "like" removed? You know the answer to that question. (bonus question: can the "you know" be removed from the preceding sentence without losing its meaning?) No. So one is a tic, and the other is integral.

You compare the journalistic ethics of the NYP and washington post to those of the Enquirer, and think I am defending the indefensible? What's your opinion of refereeing in WWE vs. the NBA? After all, an NBA ref was convicted of cheating last year. That makes them equal, right?

Do you have the AP style book that states this is the hard and fast rule? Then why didn't the AP offer Johnston the same courtesy? Why not change "workin' " to "working?"


***.."If only sources could say it right the first time. If only they didn't ramble, switch tenses, inject "ummm" or "ah" into sentences and use "gonna" instead of going to. If only their subjects agreed with their verbs. Then there wouldn't be the temptation – or necessity – to ever clean up a quote."..***

"***.."Often the amount of clean-up depends on the savvy of the source. "Generally, I fix quotes for grammar, especially with average, ordinary people," says Ellyn Ferguson, a regional reporter for Gannett News Service. "I am doing the interview to get information from them, not make them look like idiots." ..***

***.."Robertson, who has a hard news background, says she is bothered by what she sees as a double standard in reporting quotes. "When we choose to embarrass people, we don't apply any of these rules," she says. "When we want to nail somebody, remember how we quote them directly and put sic in there. I'm speaking of the 'we' as the profession as a whole. You'll see an investigative story where clearly they are trying not to paint a flattering picture of someone, and then you'll see this whole tactic of cleaning up quotes go out the window. There are two sets of rules." ..***

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=1340

I think we know how the AP decides who gets the treatment and who does not.

 

[Cicero]

The AP seems to think they have the inside track on Caroline getting "Snipery" Hillary's seat.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28469982/

But according to Patterson spokesman the AP is as accurate as their fixed quotes of Caroline.

"The AP story is incorrect," said Paterson spokesman Errol Cockfield. "There is no front-runner, and the governor is not on the verge of any decision"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/th...ors_office_no_front-runn.html?wprss=the-trail