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Obama -- a lying tax cheat?

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Obama mansion 'owned'
by Tony Rezko attorney

Lawyer at firm where Democrat
worked receives property tax bill

December 25, 2008

By Jerome R. Corsi

An attorney for convicted fundraiser Tony Rezko is listed as the owner and taxpayer for Barack Obama's Chicago mansion, according to records obtained by WND.

William Miceli is a lawyer at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland, which also formerly employed Obama.

... snip ...

WND asked for comment from Obama's transition team and the Democratic National Committee but did not receive a response.

... snip ...

WND confirmed the tax bill for the Obama home is mailed to Miceli, not to Obama or the Northern Trust account through which Obama has claimed the home was purchased.

Records from the Cook County Treasurer's Office give the PIN number for the Obama property as 20-11-115-037-0000 and list Miceli as the person who receives Obama's property tax invoice by mail.

Eric Herman, a spokesman for the Cook County assessor, confirmed to WND that the Treasurer's Office records were correct and that Miceli did receive the Obama property tax invoice by mail.

Miceli did not return a call WND placed to him at Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

Hmmmmm. Obama doesn't pay the taxes on the home that he supposedly "owns"? Say it isn't true ... surely Obama isn't a tax cheater? Surely he didn't lie to us about his relationship with Rezko? Where's the change? Where's the hope? ;)
 
Let us know when a REAL news source has this.
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No. The property is in a trust, thus the bills go to that trust which in this case is the Northern Trust. The trust then bills Obama.

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eta: My guess is that Micelli simply administers the trust, I'll let one of the lawyers here explain how this works.
 
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No. The property is in a trust, thus the bills go to that trust which in this case is the Northern Trust. The trust then bills Obama.

The WND article states that documents show the tax bill goes to Miceli, not the Northern Trust. An assessor's office official is named confirming this.

Here's what the assessment record apparently says (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6618 ):

Assessment Record For COOK County

Owner Information

Original Name: WILLIAM MICELI

Standardized Name: MICELI, WILLIAM


Original Address: 14 W ERIE ST

CHICAGO, IL 60610-5397

Standardized Address: 14 W ERIE ST

CHICAGO, IL 60654-5397

COOK COUNTY

Property Information

Original Property Address: 5046 S GREENWOOD

CHICAGO, IL 60615

Standardized Property Address: 5046 S GREENWOOD AVE

CHICAGO, IL 60615-2806

COOK COUNTY

Land Use: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL

Legal Information

Assessor’s Parcel Number: 20-11-115-034

Recording Date: 06/21/2005

Legal Description: DISTRICT: 70; CITY/MUNI/TWNSP: HYDE PARK; SEC/TWN/RNG/MER:

SEC 11 TWN 38N RNG 14E; MAP 20-11-NW (C&D)

Sale Information

Recording Date: 06/21/2005

Sale Price: $1,650,000 - FULL AMOUNT

Document Number: 517233010

Assessment Information

Assessment Year: 2006

Assessed Land Value: $14,700

Assessed Improvement Value: $139,681

Total Assessed Value: $154,381

Tax Information

Tax Rate Code: 70001

Tax Amount: $22,162.47

Tax Year: 2006

It lists Miceli, not Obama and not the Northern Trust, as the owner for Obama's home. Care to explain that? WildCat, can you show us any check signed by Obama since then paying the $22,000 in property tax that would be due each year? :D
 
The WND article states that documents show the tax bill goes to Miceli, not the Northern Trust. An assessor's office official is named confirming this.

Here's what the assessment record apparently says (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6618 ):



It lists Miceli, not Obama and not the Northern Trust, as the owner for Obama's home. Care to explain that? WildCat, can you show us any check signed by Obama since then paying the $22,000 in property tax that would be due each year? :D

Can you show us the actual document that lists Miceli?
 
Can you show us the actual document that lists Miceli?

Did you visit the link I provided. It has a link to it. So did the original WND article. And here's a third article with a clearly indicated link:

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2008/12/obamas-house-is-owned-by-rezkos-lawyer.html

And by the way ... this may not be Obama's first go at fraud involving a home and his former law firm:

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6530

Here is the summary of what was found in the records:

1 A Lexis property search for Obama in Illinois shows the Hyde Park property in Obama’s name beginning in 1998, but Obama supposedly bought the property in 1993.

2 All tax assessments from 1998-2004 are in the name of Emil - is this the person paying taxes on the property for the Obamas until they sold the property in 2005?

3 Obama Records have a different Legal Description than the original owner’s documents.

4 Cook County Recorder shows completely different information than Lexis: Emil owns the property from 1986-1989, so why is he listed as paying taxes from 1998-2004 in other records?

5 The property is passed via Warranty Deed to Stephen Anderson in 1989, then via Warranty Deed to Obama in 1993, then via Warranty Deed to Elling in 2005 - which aligns with the sequence one would expect given the standard news reports.

6 There is the Warranty Deed to Obama from Anderson in 1993, however release of the Anderson Mortgage is not recorded until 1998, and there is a requests it be sent to Obama’s*former Law Firm.

7 The Obama address in the 1999 records was shown as 927 W. Argyle 1W, not Hyde Park.

8 The mortgage from Hyde Park Mortgage lent in 2002 is originally recorded and sent to Chase Manhattan Mortgage Company. Then assigned from Hyde Park Mortgage to Chase Manhattan Mortgage Company, Then it is supposedly Assigned again from Hyde Park Mortgage to Chase, but this last transaction says the original lender was Barbara Hill for an amount $30,000, property address 2772 E. 75th Street, Unit 3G S.

9 Finally, a 2005 Release from GREATER IL TITLE CO is listed as a record of payment and there is another seperate Release from Hyde Park Mortgage, even though it had been assigned twice to Chase Manhattan Mortgage.

10 The final sale by the Obamas was financed by Northern Trust, the same company that was used to purchase Obama’s new mansion which partially paid for by Rezko, who bought part of the land which he later sold to Obama.

Wonder if Fitzgerald will turn up anything. :)
 
This isn't a mystery!

The property was bought in a trust. Miceli is simply the person the tax bill is sent to, he is not the actual owner.
 
It lists Miceli, not Obama and not the Northern Trust, as the owner for Obama's home. Care to explain that? WildCat, can you show us any check signed by Obama since then paying the $22,000 in property tax that would be due each year? :D


Also from that link:

Lexis said:
Important: The Public Records and commercially available data sources used on reports have errors. Data is sometimes entered poorly, processed incorrectly and is generally not free from defect. This system should not be relied upon as definitively accurate. Before relying on any data this system supplies, it should be independently verified. For Secretary of State documents, the following data is for information purposes only and is not an official record. Certified copies may be obtained from that individual state's Department of State.
Copyright© 2008 LexisNexis, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.



Heh.
 
The property was bought in a trust. Miceli is simply the person the tax bill is sent to, he is not the actual owner.

How do you know? Because Obama claims this? You sure are trusting.

The assessor documents state Miceli is the OWNER. Why?

Can you provide any proof that Obama actually paid the property taxes?
 
How do you know? Because Obama claims this? You sure are trusting.

The assessor documents state Miceli is the OWNER. Why?

Can you provide any proof that Obama actually paid the property taxes?
It would help if you educated yourself a bit:
A land trust is a means of holding legal and equitable title to Illinois real estate. The trustee holds the title for the benefit of it beneficiary(ies) who retains all of the management rights and responsibilities. These responsibilities may include payment of real estate property taxes; management and upkeep of the real estate and payment of insurance premiums.

A land trust is created when the beneficiary(ies) enters into a land trust agreement with the trustee. The land trust agreement is not recorded. Title to the real estate is conveyed to the trustee by a deed in trust, which is recorded in the county in which the real estate is located.
http://cmetro.ctic.com/TitleIssues/v3n1.pdf
 
Did you visit the link I provided. It has a link to it. So did the original WND article. And here's a third article with a clearly indicated link:

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2008/12/obamas-house-is-owned-by-rezkos-lawyer.html

And by the way ... this may not be Obama's first go at fraud involving a home and his former law firm:

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6530



Wonder if Fitzgerald will turn up anything. :)

Sorry I should have been clear. The official document listing Miceli as the owner. Such as the deed.

ETA: Ah, never mind Wildcat explained it.
 
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So you are in for another four years of Bush then? I was really hoping to visit the USA for the first time in 8 years in January. :mad:
 
It's interesting to see this kind of overtly treasonous response to the new CIC, isn't it?

Just think when we questioned 'W's right to a second term, we were all asked "why do you hate America", accused of being "appeasers" and wanting "worldwide Muslim government" and all that rot.

But now, for some reason, it's A-OK to create smoke from nothing via obvious, trivally dismissed lies from known frauds like Corsi to attack the CIC?

It is completely, totally obvious at this point that whackjobs like Corsi, and the folks who promote his stuff, are intentionally, willfully and with malice aforethought trying to create a state of civil war in the United States of America, because their attempt at creating a "Reconstructed" America via ignoring the Constitution and casting dung on the founders have for the time being fallen by the wayside.

No, we shouldn't ban them, we shouldn't suppress their right to talk, we should point out their own words when their own pet bigot 'W' was in office, and laugh at them loudly and long.

Such behavior deserves the utmost scorn and derision. In fact, this board does not permit such forms of derision. (As it is allowed to do, being privately owned and all that)
 
"Northern Trust" is the title/mortgage company. It's nominal, not literal.

Or maybe even, the owner is the son of Mr. Trust, who named his children after compass points? Northern and Southern were males, Eastern and Western are girls. You just can't be sure of Nor-Easters....
 
It would help if you educated yourself a bit

But the Assessor's documents don't indicate the home is owned by the trust. They indicate it's owned by Miceli. I have a house owned by a trust. The trust is indicated on the assessor rolls as the owner of the house. So why isn't Obama's listed as owned by the trust?
 
But the Assessor's documents don't indicate the home is owned by the trust. They indicate it's owned by Miceli. I have a house owned by a trust. The trust is indicated on the assessor rolls as the owner of the house. So why isn't Obama's listed as owned by the trust?
Note the real estate transfer record I posted. The Northern Trust is listed as the buyer. Miceli is the trustee.
 

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