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SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread

I've never seen anything implode when frozen. If molten iron imploded when it solidified, there's no way it could be cast into useful objects. I think this claim is rubbish.
 
arthwollipot said:
I've never seen anything implode when frozen. If molten iron imploded when it solidified, there's no way it could be cast into useful objects. I think this claim is rubbish.
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Well nothing implodes when it changes phase to a solid. But if it takes up less space as a solid, and we are talking thousands of kilometres of matter, that could lead to an implosion-explosion. I mean thats my explanation. But the convergent evidence for the thesis is there. With one side of Mars blasted, the asteroid belt existing and with an outer lying moon with a slow rotation rate being blackened on one side.
 
GMB said:
I haven't seen any larva tubes. I haven't seen anything that LOOKS like larva tubes. Larva tubes never have been known to meet at ninety degree angles.
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Really ? So I guess 90 degree = artificial ?

You're weird.

So we see that the thesis that we are seeing something that could throw immense light on our knowledge of geology is a good one and that therefore NASA is both remiss and clearly dysfunctional. Being a guardian against new knowledge and not a paid servant of science.
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The problem with this is that you're assuming that you're right about this, without even bothering to check.
 
GMB said:
Pretty much everything except for water. Really we are talking about things like iron and nickel. If they take a lot less space when solid then that could be a problem. Having a major satellite like the Moon is a destabilizing factor one would imagine. But its not like I'm real up on the theory.
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No kidding.
 
Is this one of the tubular covered roadways GMB is talking about?

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Nicknamed the Glass Worm, this feature is about 50m across and many km long. It's been discussed by Phil Plait- http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/glassworm.html - and even has its own appreciation page - http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/PICKOVER/pc/glass-worm.html

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Sure thats one of them. Look at those bands. Tubular covered BANDED roads. Its the banded nature of them that gives them away as likely artificial.

Beezlebub you aint in any sort of form today. You are just NOT.
 
Alice. Why did you make that link you made? Its just a really stupid person saying really stupid stuff. The picture didn't turn from a worm into a valley when you turned it upside-down. It stayed a worm. Thats the sort of bloke that steps out of the shower throwing dirt over himself and walks backwards all the way to bed.
 
GMB said:
Thats not a real good paradigm. No-one would be walking around in that atmosphere uncovered. That would be far more unlikely then expecting streakers at the South Pole. No-ones suggesting intelligent evolved life there. That would seem implausible. Definitely if its evidence for intelligent life its like an old outpost. Like base camp Antarctica. That sort of thing. No-ones going to be running around in bare feet.

Plus there are very good reasons why Inter-Stellar travelers, would set up shop in a place like that, in preference to earth.
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My paradigms rocks. It's much better than yours and it has more supporters. I didn't say Bigfoot evolved on Mars, that's just nutty talk. Bigfoots are genetic manipulants that have been bred on Earth by aliens with genetic codes already present here. They are infiltrator units that were designed for off-world planetary conflicts. They are highly elusive an employ alien stealth technologies thus the paucity of type specimens to examine.

The infiltrator (Bigfoot) image that I showed you is not a living inflitrator. The evidence available indicates that it is either the remains of an infiltrator hit by molecular alteration weapon during a conflict in which they were employed in on Mars in ancient times or possibly a monument honouring the infiltrator.

I'm afraid you are going to have to do some studying if you want your paradigm to enjoy the same support that mine does at the JREF. Here is a good place to start:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128526
 
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GMB said:
Alice. Why did you make that link you made? Its just a really stupid person saying really stupid stuff. The picture didn't turn from a worm into a valley when you turned it upside-down. It stayed a worm. Thats the sort of bloke that steps out of the shower throwing dirt over himself and walks backwards all the way to bed.
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You have difficulty being around other people and don't get out much, do you?

You should take up Bigfoot research. You'll meet other people, some like yourself, and you'll get out more.
 
GMB said:
Alice. Why did you make that link you made? Its just a really stupid person saying really stupid stuff. The picture didn't turn from a worm into a valley when you turned it upside-down. It stayed a worm. Thats the sort of bloke that steps out of the shower throwing dirt over himself and walks backwards all the way to bed.
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You have no idea who Phil Plait is, do you? :eek:

Oh, and BTW, I didn't see any 90° angles there.
 
Responding to kitakaze.

Do not make personal attacks.
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But the problem is also with Phil. Imagine thinking he could turn it all into a valley by simple association with an optical illusion? I mean that fellow is totally delusional. He notes this optical illusion. Then he jumps to this wrong conclusion. As if he knows something he cannot possibly know. We are talking a real dim bulb here. But it seems he may have taken Randi in.

Notice how a real skeptic reacts to this sort of thing. Arthur Clarke spent a lot of time debunking various voodoo. He had a TV program all about this sort of thing. But once the Mars photos came back he had no hesitation in acknowledging that there were amazing photos there. But this Phil dope just makes it up. He doesn't want to see it so he makes it go away. So childish. The spoonbenders have taken over the citadel, like an usurper winning the Presidency.
 
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Phil Plait isn't any sort of skeptic at all. He's a mindless advocate of the status quo. Arthur C Clarke was a skeptic. Randi is a skeptic. Ian Plimer is a skeptic. Phil Plait is nothing of the sort. How on earth did matters get so bleak as to have Phil Plait take over Randi's project? All those years and no-one stooging Randi. Then look what happens.
 
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Seriously? Do you know how this tragedy could have happened? As a scientist Ian Plimer immediately concluded that this global warming racket was wrong. What's lucky Phil's position I wonder? If he is to form he will have fallen for it hook line and sinker. How could this have happened? And look at his response to the banded tube-looking things. It was the most moronic, anti-intellectual approach I've ever seen. How long does his Presidency last? Surely there is dozens of authentic skeptics who could replace him.
 
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GMB said:
Responding to kitakaze.

The problem is with you. You are just being a moron. But the problem is also with Phil. Imagine thinking he could turn it all into a valley by simple association with an optical illusion? I mean that fellow is totally delusional. He notes this optical illusion. Then he jumps to this wrong conclusion. As if he knows something he cannot possibly know. We are talking a real dim bulb here. But it seems he may have taken Randi in.

Notice how a real skeptic reacts to this sort of thing. Arthur Clarke spent a lot of time debunking various voodoo. He had a TV program all about this sort of thing. But once the Mars photos came back he had no hesitation in acknowledging that there were amazing photos there. But this Phil dope just makes it up. He doesn't want to see it so he makes it go away. So childish. The spoonbenders have taken over the citadel, like an usurper winning the Presidency.
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Isn't it an interesting thing that rather than deal with the strength of my Bigfoot/Mars paradigm, you can only talk about Phil Plait? For some who talks so much about knee-jerk skepticism and not dealing with evidence you seem to be doing a lot of it with me.
 
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Go away. You've got no business taking part in any intellectual discussion.
 
GMB said:
Go away. You've got no business taking part in any intellectual discussion.
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I think it makes you uncomfortable to have your hypocrisy pointed out to you. You say people are disregarding unfairly the ideas you promote about civilization on Mars but disregard unfairly my ideas about Mars. I certainly won't go away. You're just frustrated because I have made a good demonstration of how my Mars paradigm is better than yours. If it isn't, I'm quite sure your smart enough to help people understand why. Maybe I'll learn something and be able to justify participating in intellectual discussions.
 
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