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The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

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William Parcher said:
After you stop laughing, try to pinpoint this lard ass' shoulder joint. Then imagine him with furcloth instead of a jersey and you can see the issue with trying to locate the shoulder joint on Patty. Do you locate it as if it were a living creature, or a guy in a padded fur suit?
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Here you go. Do I win?

I'll bet if we had video of this flabby fellow articulating we could get a better estimate.
 
No offense to Astro but measuring a few cherry-picked frames downloaded off the internet wasn't what I had in mind.
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Well, I think we would all agree that we'd like to see the original film. Even Sweaty...

We'd all love to work with the film that Roger actually shot.

We've got what we've got...enhanced, enlarged, colored, cropped copies of copies...
 
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As far as the film goes it looks to me that Patty's arm length could be within human range, maybe on the long side. They look correctly proportioned which gives me doubts about hand extensions.

The angle of the arm looks straight down from the shoulders and it does not look like the arm angles in from the elbow into a recessed shoulder socket.
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This is a good point....if Bob's midsection/shoulders were heavily padded-out, then his upper arm wouldn't look normal when his arm was swinging...like Patty's does...

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In this picture, both players have an unnatural bend in the outline of their upper arms...

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Here's a good example of a football player's arm swinging....

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Given the very large difference between the chest/shoulder widths of Bob and Patty....the top half of Bob's upper arm would have been well buried in padding.
 
The top half of Bob's body WAS burried under the padding. However we don't see this because of camera distortion lol!
 
As I posted earlier, I'm a Bigfoot fan. I WANT to believe in the big fella. Some of the most entertaining nights of my childhood out in Washington state were spent listening to my grandparents regaling us kids with Bigfoot stories.

But now I'm a grownup, and looked at in the hard cold light of day, the evidence for Bigfoot's existence is less than compelling, to put it charitably. No poo, no hair, no bodies, no nothing.

C'mon, you Bigfooters. Throw me a bone here. No blurry photos, no arcane discussions about IM angles and this or that. Something that I can point to and say "Ha! You skeptics can't explain THIS, now can you?"

I'm ready to believe, just give me a reason...
 
jhunter1163 said:
As I posted earlier, I'm a Bigfoot fan. I WANT to believe in the big fella. Some of the most entertaining nights of my childhood out in Washington state were spent listening to my grandparents regaling us kids with Bigfoot stories.

But now I'm a grownup, and looked at in the hard cold light of day, the evidence for Bigfoot's existence is less than compelling, to put it charitably. No poo, no hair, no bodies, no nothing.

C'mon, you Bigfooters. Throw me a bone here. No blurry photos, no arcane discussions about IM angles and this or that. Something that I can point to and say "Ha! You skeptics can't explain THIS, now can you?"

I'm ready to believe, just give me a reason...
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Here's an interesting article for you to read...

http://www.straight.com/article-173197/immortal-sasquatch-still-immune-cynics

A few excerpts:

One thing is clear, however: anyone who does a little research soon learns there’s a lot more going on than media reports of hoaxes.
“A lot of Sasquatch tracks are found where nobody goes; it’s simple as that,” Kirk says.
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He is conducting an experiment, see, to find out whether or not convincing Bigfoot tracks can be easily faked. They can’t. Even in the softest sand, Steenburg’s tracks—replicas of the 1958 Bluff Creek, California, prints that catapulted the term Bigfoot into public consciousness—mark only an eighth of an inch of the surface.
The tracks he claims to have discovered at Ruby Creek the week before, in late September this year, were three times that deep, indicating a foot structure designed to carry a very heavy animal.
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There have been more than 3,000 sightings in B.C. since 1920, by his count. (In July this year, two people separately claimed they saw a Bigfoot on Mt. Archibald near Chilliwack within three hours of each other.)
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One must ask

If this is correct
>>>“A lot of Sasquatch tracks are found where nobody goes; it’s simple as that,”

If "nobody" goes there, who found them?
 
Note to hoaxers: Make fake tracks where nobody goes. Somebody will find them.

Rhetorical question: How many fake tracks have been made by hoaxers, but were never found by anyone?

It's an interesting article, but it doesn't belong in a thread about BH and Patty.
 
Sweaty said:
There have been more than 3,000 sightings in B.C. since 1920, by his count. (In July this year, two people separately claimed they saw a Bigfoot on Mt. Archibald near Chilliwack within three hours of each other.)
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I think 4 or 5 people saw the same bigfoot from a bus in B.C. AT THE SAME TIME, of course that was a guy in a gorilla suit.
 
Here's a little something for you to explain, jhunter...here are two images of (allegedly) a 'Bob-in-the-suit'....


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Why is it that, in the picture on the left, Bob has distinct body contours, and outlines (around the head, the biceps, the thigh, the calf)....while in the picture on the right, Bob looks like he's being swallowed-up by a 'Mutant runaway' from Cal's Carpets. :eek:


What do you think the chance is that, if we could see it in motion, the 'Ball of Fur' Bob is wearing would show this kind of rippling/movement/flexibility in the right leg??...

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I'm thinkin' zilcho. :)
 
Well, thinking like a hoaxer...I would of course put my fake tracks where few people go, for several reasons...

When tracks are found where it's agreed that "nobody" goes, you gotta suspect the person who found them or those associated with that person. Why did that person go there when "nobody" goes there?

First question should be "Well then, why did you go there?"

Often the story is that they just happened to go there, but further investigation reveals that going there was suggested to them...
 
Why is it that, in the picture on the left, Bob has distinct body contours, and outlines (around the head, the biceps, the thigh, the calf)....while in the picture on the right, Bob looks like he's being swallowed-up by a 'Mutant runaway' from Cal's Carpets
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IMO, the fur on the left looks distinctly like fake fur. It does not lay down along the body. It sticks out in all directions. It looks like shag carpet to me.

If you asked me which suit to use to fake a bigfoot movie, I would use the one on the right.

Of course, Patty is quite blurry, and grainy, and fuzzy around her edges, which makes comparisons to better images problematic.
 
Without a doubt the Morris recreation is dreadful. If I was the producer I would have at least insisted that the suit be a reasonable color shade of Patty. Actually if they showed up with the stuff they did I would have pulled the plug on the whole thing. Its a complete joke. I wonder if anybody thought to question the huge disparity between the PGF creature color and Morris recreation. But I don't see any wrist bands on the Morris recreation so we know of at least one fake Bigfoot that doesn't show wrist bands. Hmmm maybe Bob actually managed to morph into becing Patty after all these years.
 
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Crowlogic said:
Without a doubt the Morris recreation is dreadful. If I was the producer I would have at least insisted that the suit be a reasonable color shade of Patty. Actually if they showed up with the stuff they did I would have pulled the plug on the whole thing. Its a complete joke. I wonder if anybody thought to question the huge disparity between the PGF creature color and Morris recreation. But I don't see any wrist bands on the Morris recreation so we know of at least one fake Bigfoot that doesn't show wrist bands. Hmmm maybe Bob actually managed to morph into becing Patty after all these years.
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Based on all that I have seen, I am of the opinion that Morris was not involved in the PGF, Bob Heironimus was. As such, the appearance of Morris' recreation attempt is interesting at best but of no real consequence.
 
SweatyYeti said:
Why is it that, in the picture on the left, Bob has distinct body contours, and outlines (around the head, the biceps, the thigh, the calf)....while in the picture on the right, Bob looks like he's being swallowed-up by a 'Mutant runaway' from Cal's Carpets. :eek:
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It is quite obvious that the image on the right has been manipulated to create the poster for the TV show. You can see that some sort of 'softening' has been applied, and the fine texture of the fur is lost. Same was done for Bob next to Philip (holding the headpiece).


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