Now, let's talk evidence for God.

[yrreg]

For background of the present thread please go to here.


Atheists love to demand evidence for God's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by God, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of God because they deny His existence.

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are, even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by God.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

Yrreg

 

[billydkid]

It's not for an atheist to presume to say what is meant by "God" since it is the believers who make a claim for the existence this entity. I think it serves the interests of believer to keep any notion of "what is God?" obscure and ill defined. After all, if your God has no attributes how does one cast doubt on his existence? So you tell me, what attributes does your God have and how would you recognize him when you see him? In what way does his existence distinguish itself from his non-existence?

 

[Hokulele]

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

​

Non-existent.


That was fun.

 

[quixotecoyote]

For background of the present thread please go to here.


Atheists love to demand evidence for God's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by God, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of God because they deny His existence.

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are, even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by God.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

Yrreg

Have you tried forum search?

Seriously, this is inane.

Atheists disbelieve in all sorts of gods. Your god, his god, her god, their god.

Every theist has a slightly different definition and a slightly different meaning.

Pantheist gods are different from monotheist gods which are different from deist gods and so on.

I suppose a simple version could be "I disbelieve in any invisible super-powered consciousness that deals in souls, miracles, and afterlives. If your 'god' is similar to that I probably disbelieve in it. If your 'god' is actually 'love' or 'nature' or something like that, I believe in it but dispute the utility of your definition."

Theists are the ones claiming a god exists, atheists can only disbelieve in the gods people imagine exist, and there's no incentive for us to imagine up our own.

 

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

Ok then. The following is a list of evidence for the existance of any god.

Alright now that we got that out of the way, maybe the OP could answer some of the questions raised by billydkid.

 

[Miss_Kitt]

Hmmm, this seems to be a pattern...

I am open to any evidence of the existance of a god, rather than evidence that there are / have been people who believe in god. The Heaven's Gate incident provided ample--and recent--proof that people will live by, and die for, their unsupported beliefs.

I don't understand the "what does an atheist say god is?" ploy. An atheist says, I don't believe in any kind of supernatural, superpowerful, immaterial, eternal or omniscient being(s). Most religions' god(s) have at least one of those attributes, so it's simple to reject the whole lot.

There is a natural, material, bounded world. It works in consistent and determinable ways, which we codify our understanding of as various "Rules" and Theories of science: Thermodynamics, chemistry, physics, biology, etc. These are tools we use to better understand and make useful predictions about, the nature of Existance.

Some people choose to define "god" in such a way as to mean something like, The totality of existance, in all its variety and majesty. In which case, there's already a word, and further, one that does not imply supernatural attributes or a consciousness. Ready? "Universe" Try using that to avoid misunderstandings.

Done with this one, MK

 

[athon]

How would a universe without your version of 'God' look different to the one we're currently in?

Explain your answer.

(Marks: /10)

Athon

 

[Robert Oz]

Atheists love to demand evidence for God's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by God, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of God because they deny His existence.

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are, even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by God.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

Yrreg

We are not faced with multiple definitions of who Cinderella is.

We are not faced with multiple definitions of who Santa Claus is.

We are faced with multiple definitions of who or what God is.

Tell me what your definition of God is and I'll tell you whether or not I believe in him/her/it.

When atheists on this board say "I don't believe in a god", they are generally saying, "I don't believe in any god that has been defined thus far".

It's the most reasonable answer one can give to a moving question.

 

[Tricky]

Dang, I thought some theist was going to present evidence for their particular conception of God. I feel like I've been suckered by a sideshow barker.

 

[wollery]

Dang, I thought some theist was going to present evidence for their particular conception of God. I feel like I've been suckered by a sideshow barker.

That would at least have been entertaining.

 

[Dr Adequate]

For background of the present thread please go to here.


Atheists love to demand evidence for God's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by God, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of God because they deny His existence.

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are, even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by God.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

Yrreg

Let's hear from an actual atheist, not the imaginary ones in your head.

I know not what you mean by God; I am without idea of God; the word 'God' is to me a sound conveying no clear or distinct affirmation. ... The Bible God I deny; the Christian God I disbelieve in; but I am not rash enough to say there is no God as long as you tell me you are unprepared to define God to me. - Charles Bradlaugh, Plea for Atheism ​

 

[paximperium]

Define "god" and its characteristics and then we can talk.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

Yrreg

[/INDENT]

Non-existent.


That was fun.

And fast.

Dang, I thought some theist was going to present evidence for their particular conception of God. I feel like I've been suckered by a sideshow barker.

You didn't read the OP's name, then?

 

[bokonon]

God is a ring of smoke
wrapped around my finger
a wasp without a stinger
buzzing in my ear

 

[rocketdodger]

What is God?​

What a coincidence, yrreg, that is the exact same question I have!

 

[Tumblehome]

Atheists love to demand evidence for N%@!>*(tT's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by N%@!>*(tT, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of N%@!>*(tT because they deny His existence.

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are, even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by N%@!>*(tT.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is N%@!>*(tT, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is N%@!>*(tT?

Yrreg, if you can answer this, then you've answered your own OP.

 

[arthwollipot]

For background of the present thread please go to here.

Whoah - what the **** was that I just read?

Atheists love to demand evidence for God's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by God, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of God because they deny His existence.

Well, why should we have to define precisely what it is we don't believe in? Would you like me to list all the things I don't beleive in? We'll be here for a while. How about you tell me what you think God is, and let me say "well, I don't believe in that".

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are, even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by God.

Atheists don't intend to convey anything by God. Only that we don't believe in it.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

So far as I know, I know what Cinderella is, and I know what Santa Claus is, so I don't see how the analogy is in any way valid.

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

Anything I don't believe in.

 

[PixyMisa]

For background of the present thread please go to here.

Atheists love to demand evidence for God's existence; but when they are asked to give some ideas of what they understand by God, they will insist they don't have to give any ideas of God because they deny His existence.

Of course.

You tell us what your conception of God is, and then you present your evidence. Then we can evaluate your evidence and see if in fact it supports the existence of your God.

That goes to show how lacking in understanding they are

Nope.

even though they are so self-complacent that they are so clever with that kind of a reaction to the demand that they give some ideas of what they intend to convey by God.

It's your God. You have to tell us what you think it is.

Anyway on the rare chance that there be atheists here possessed of understanding, who can appreciate that they cannot deny the existence of Cinderella if they don't have any ideas of what is Cinderella, and for that matter Santa Claus...

It's your God. You have to tell us what you think it is.

Let me then just address this question to such atheists here in this forum -- the other atheists who are so clever in eschewing any intelligent use of their brain to think what is God, they can dispense themselves from participating in this thread.

What is God?​

It's your God. You have to tell us what you think it is.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Allow me to put a twist on the question:

If you believe in god(s), why don't you believe in unicorns, leprechauns, or faeries?

If you believe in the God of Christianity, Islam, or Judaism, why don't you believe in Thor, Zeus, or Marduk?

Since I believe in none of the above, I find my own thinking on these matters to be logically consistent.

Okay, religious believers... your turn.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Now let's talk evidence for God

I'm with Tricky, we've been duped into here and the OP wants people with intelligence to do his work for him. No evidence will ever be forthcoming, move along.

yrreg, were you bad and now believe that your god makes you come here and get trounced for penance?