Expelled from Expelled (Richard Dawkins got in!)

Just bumping this to see if there is any more news. The recording is pretty hard to understand. I filtered it, and made it comprehensible, but I'm not sure if it is permissible to upload audio files here.
 
Well, it isn't news, but like many people, I signed up for a free showing of Expelled shortly after the Myers story broke. Today I got an email telling me what I already knew, that all of these advanced showings had been canceled. The email said the movie would still be premiering on 4/18, so I'm a bit puzzled about why all the free showings were canceled, unless they thought everyone who wanted to see the movie was coming for free, and they'd already generated the buzz they wanted to get people in the paying seats.
 
More Lying in the Promotion of "Expelled"

It appears that the promoters of the film are starting to play fast and loose with whether or not various screenings are canceled. Apparently, some people signed up for a screening on April 3rd in Tempe, AZ were notified that it was "canceled", when in reality the show went on. It seems this is a process to weed out "undesirables" from seeing the screening.

Despite the attempts to screen people from the screening, there were a few skeptical folks who managed to get into the Tempe, AZ event. Here's more on a recent Pandas Thumb entry:

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/04/telling-lies-fo.html

In light of this new information, if anyone on the forums was interested in going to see a screening, I would encourage you to contact the theater in question and ask them whether or not the screening is on. If the answer is "yes", then I'd encourage you to go anyway, but do so "under the radar".

Yet more lies. These people are despicable. :mad:
 
Some Seattle skeptics are planning on seeing this on 4/18 when it opens. I have mixed feelings since I think part of the reason for not letting people into the screenings could have been purely a publicity stunt. And who wants to add to these guy's profit anyway.

OTOH, I may want to know what was in the movie in order to reply to it's false premises.

Dilemma!
 
Rather than put money into the pockets of Ben Stein and the Disco Institute by buying a ticket to "Expelled", instead consider buying a "Truth Ticket". Read more about it at this link via Pandas Thumb...

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/04/truth-tickets.html

My favorite from that link's comment section:

"Don’t pay to see Expelled. See it for free if you have to. This clunker will end up as free DVDs, free church basement showings, and on late night Xian Trinity Broadcasting TV soon enough. Or possibly as a triple feature with The Rocky Horror Picture Show and From Darwin to Hitler."

I'll be buying my "Truth Ticket" tonight! Pass it on. :D

ETA: Awesome! This was my 666th post! Ben Stein, if you're reading this... the Devil made me do it!!! :hypnotize
 
I'm watching Expelled right now. (I technically didn't have to pay for it, because of NetFlix). 30 minutes in, it's extremely boring.

Where is the science in it?

Neither evolution, nor intelligent design have been defined yet.

I feel like I'm watching a movie narrated by Michael Moore's retarded twin.
 
40 minutes in, a DNA molecule animation is highlighted as though it was a refutation or alternative explanation to evolution.

This movie is filled with Ben Stein's strawman arguments.

Of course, intelligent design is useful, but only in context. I use intelligent design when I create programs on my computer.

What this movie is doing is it is equivocating, by trying to refute evolution with information theory (misrepresented in this movie as intelligent design).

Intelligent Design has connotations of intentionality and purpose, whereas Information Theory doesn't.

The movie also tries to refute evolution by attacking "Darwinism". Of course "Darwinism" could mean anything since it is never defined. In the movie, Ben Stein seems to be arguing against outdated explanations of evolution.

1 hour into the movie: evolution (presented as Eugenics) is directly connected to Nazism.

Of course any good or bad action can be rationalized in terms of Evolution, or Religion.

And yet, neither Evolution nor Intelligent Design have been defined 75 minutes into the movie.

But the gross imagery is still in my head. I wonder if this movie could significantly influence children in their intellectually formative years.

80 minutes: The Berlin Wall and oppression of ideas and free speech associated with attitudes toward Intelligent Design in Academia.

90 minutes: This is the most refreshing part of the whole movie, a friendly interview with Richard Dawkins.

The whole movie is based on fallacies. The only legitimate point is that Academia is resistant to badly-thought-out theories.

What a waste of time. I was hoping for a more intellectual debate of ideas.
 
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