AE911Truth and the actual # of engineers in America...

Homeland Insurgency said:
That's okay. Sometimes I do that when I'm laughing hysterically.
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I know, 0 truther papers in a peer reviewed journal after 7 years is pretty funny!

Hopefully I won't wet myself.
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Sounds like quite a problem you have there. That's why your mommy puts rubber sheets on your bed.

More what? More none out of 10 million?
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Nice try. Those 10 million are satisfied with building reports. "None" is the number of truther papers in peer reviewed journals.

I don't even know what a sopund is. Did you hurt yourself?
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I guess typos is all you have now. How sad.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Really? So what is Scott spouting off about?
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What he's spouting off about is truthers coming on to his forum and spouting nonsense.


When did he bring it up to all of the thousands?
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Read it again.


Actually it doesn't tell anything.
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Sure it does, Gage can only recruit a few professionals out of the millions worldwide.

There is a very simple concept that you and other DEBUNKERS fail to understand. You claim to know what happened on 9/11. You need to prove it not us. So far you don't even have a handful backing you up.
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Thanks for proving my point about burden of proof, I knew you wouldn't let me down.
 
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we don't have to prove anything....to anyone. especially...to truthers. if they REFUSE to accept the facts...that is their problem..and their cross to bare.
 
Since when did argument by popularity become popular?

I trust you're all going to church next Sunday?
 
you miss the entire point HI. The reports have a direct bearing on the livelihood of millions of architects and engineers. More stringent building codes and regulations as a result of those report findings can make or break a clients project budget. If you think those millions of architects and engineers would keep silent if they disagreed with those reports you are very very very stupid.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Again not independent and no personal endorsements of the official version.

So out of 10 million according to the op you have one? Good for you.
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Here's a question for you, HI. I highly doubt you'll answer it, but I'll offer it anyway. Look at the NIST report on WTC 7. Specifically, look at pages 5-14. Here's a link for you.Look at all those names of the people who contributed to the NIST report. All those names on those pages aren't architects and engineers, certainly; if you get down to "cooperating organizations", a lot of those are people who work in television. However, you have 13 experts on the first page who were leaders in some fashion on the report. You have 59 people on NIST's technical staff. 11 more experts and consultants. 27 more from the Department of Commerce and NIST institutional support. 22 NIST contractors... including Mark Loizeaux, who has made it quite clear what he thinks of truthers and their theories.
So, my question to you, HI, is this. Do you think that all those people would allow their names on the report that determined definitively that WTC was not a controlled demolition if they thought it was? Or, if the report listed their names and they didn't agree with the report's findings, don't you think they'd, oh I don't know, say something to that effect?
 
parky76 said:
are you expecting there to be a internet forum for folks who agree with the true story of what happened on 9-11?

its already been supported by the most important architectual and engineering firms, societies, and schools of thought.

their seal of appoval is good enough for me.
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Huh??
I wouldnt expect one, but what do you call this forum?
You may as well call it "Folks who believe anything the government says".
 
tanabear said:
The experimental method is the ultimate arbiter of competing scientific hypotheses, not peer review.
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All depends on the validity of the test. What has taught us more about the mechanics of the collapses, Bazant's calculations, or Heiwa's pizza box experiment?
 
A W Smith said:
you miss the entire point HI. The reports have a direct bearing on the livelihood of millions of architects and engineers. More stringent building codes and regulations as a result of those report findings can make or break a clients project budget. If you think those millions of architects and engineers would keep silent if they disagreed with those reports you are very very very stupid.
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Actually the livelihood of millions of architects and engineers depends many times on government contracts. Or maybe even something like the rebuilding of the WTC site.

If you think they would speak up about something where they have absolutely nothing to gain but ridicule from others seeking those same lucrative contracts or just loyalist toeing the government line then it is you who are very very very stupid or very very very dishonest.
 
Tweeter said:
Huh??
I wouldnt expect one, but what do you call this forum?
You may as well call it "Folks who believe anything the government says".
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right. keep telling yourselves that we believe "everything" the government tells us. that way you can disregard anyone who dares to disagree with you.

is that how it works? simply disregarding anyone and any argument that disagrees with you, by simply calling it "governmant loyalist"??

:D

see, this is the TRUE and MAIN difference between debunkers...and truthers.

Debunkers, when they hear statemants from truthers, research, investigate, and if it turns out to be wrong...we call it "incorrect".

Truthers, when they hear statemants from debunkers, just simply call it lies, planted evidence, disinfo, NWO propaganda, or just simply call the debunker a "governmant loyalist".

Yeah...you guys really deserve a new investigation.
 
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eromitlab said:
Here's a question for you, HI. I highly doubt you'll answer it, but I'll offer it anyway. Look at the NIST report on WTC 7. Specifically, look at pages 5-14. Here's a link for you.Look at all those names of the people who contributed to the NIST report. All those names on those pages aren't architects and engineers, certainly; if you get down to "cooperating organizations", a lot of those are people who work in television. However, you have 13 experts on the first page who were leaders in some fashion on the report. You have 59 people on NIST's technical staff. 11 more experts and consultants. 27 more from the Department of Commerce and NIST institutional support. 22 NIST contractors... including Mark Loizeaux, who has made it quite clear what he thinks of truthers and their theories.
So, my question to you, HI, is this. Do you think that all those people would allow their names on the report that determined definitively that WTC was not a controlled demolition if they thought it was? Or, if the report listed their names and they didn't agree with the report's findings, don't you think they'd, oh I don't know, say something to that effect?
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I asked for independent endorsement of the official version. Not the official version trying to confirm the official version.
 
parky76 said:
right. keep telling yourselves that we believe "everything" the government tells us. that way you can disregard anyone who dares to disagree with you.

is that how it works? simply disregarding anyone and any argument that disagrees with you, by simply calling it "governmant loyalist"??

:D

see, this is the TRUE and MAIN difference between debunkers...and truthers.

Debunkers, when they hear statemants from truthers, research, investigate, and if it turns out to be wrong...we call it "incorrect".

Truthers, when they hear statemants from debunkers, just simply call it lies, planted evidence, disinfo, NWO propaganda, or just simply call the debunker a "governmant loyalist".

Yeah...you guys really deserve a new investigation.
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The only think debunkers do is offer up the official version as proof of the official version.

Especially Gravy.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Actually the livelihood of millions of architects and engineers depends many times on government contracts. Or maybe even something like the rebuilding of the WTC site.

If you think they would speak up about something where they have absolutely nothing to gain but ridicule from others seeking those same lucrative contracts or just loyalist toeing the government line then it is you who are very very very stupid or very very very dishonest.
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ever heard of "whistleblower protections"?

people who spill the beans about corruption or criminal activity..are protected from retribution. and even without these protections, hundreds..even thousands of Americans have risked their jobs, pensions, even their safety, to spill the beans countless times when their government agency or private buisness has done something wrong.

it is so verrrrrrry convenient, and self-serving, to claim that the REAL reason there haven't more engineers and architects on the side of "da twoof", is because they are intimidated. but precedent shows the American people are BRAVE and COURAGEOUS in these typs of situations, and do their duty as Americans....even when their own livelyhoods are at risk.

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Homeland Insurgency said:
Actually the livelihood of millions of architects and engineers depends many times on government contracts. Or maybe even something like the rebuilding of the WTC site.

If you think they would speak up about something where they have absolutely nothing to gain but ridicule from others seeking those same lucrative contracts or just loyalist toeing the government line then it is you who are very very very stupid or very very very dishonest.
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the design, engineering and construction of commercial buildings and skyscrapers are not contracts given by the government, the WTC complex is the exception rather than the rule. thanks for showing us the truther level of stupidity
 
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A W Smith said:
the design, engineering and construction of commercial buildings and skyscrapers are not contracts given by the government, the WTC complex is the exception rather than the rule. thanks for showing us your level of stupidity
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Thank you for yet again not showing any of the supposed 10 million who independently endorse the official version.
 
parky76 said:
ever heard of "whistleblower protections"?

people who spill the beans about corruption or criminal activity..are protected from retribution. and even without these protections, hundreds..even thousands of Americans have risked their jobs, pensions, even their safety, to spill the beans countless times when their government agency or private buisness has done something wrong.

it is so verrrrrrry convenient, and self-serving, to claim that the REAL reason there haven't more engineers and architects on the side of "da twoof", is because they are intimidated. but precedent shows the American people are BRAVE and COURAGEOUS in these typs of situations, and do their duty as Americans....even when their own livelyhoods are at risk.

:D
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Yes I have. In fact there are engineers and architects on the side of what you for lack of any facts call "da twoof". In fact the OP pointed some of them out.

Where is yours?
 
As someone who recently changed his major to mechanical engineering,

In 2006 (the last year that this survey was done), there were about 1.5 million employed engineers in the United States. I did a search for architects and found that in 2006, there were about 132,000 architects employed in the United States.
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As someone who debated mechanical vs electrical engineering in high school and went with electrical, what do all of those engineers say about "planned obsolescence"?

I knew that was going on in cars before I graduated from high school but I noticed no one mentioned it in college. I didn't even learn about The Current Wars.

http://www.snopes.com/science/edison.asp

My 1984 encyclopedia Britannica didn't contain electric chair information and the 2000 version only had two paragraphs and didn't say Edison was responsible for it.

Very strange things happen with information in this society. Of course physics doesn't give a damn about democracy or consensus. Any engineer should know that.

psik
 
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