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How 9/11 was done
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Really?
Have you thought about telling these guys ?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-09-17-spain-alqaeda_x.htm
They maybe interested in your findings.
It's telling that you have to resort to actions of the spanish judiciary in 2003 against a crime that was committed in the US.
At that time Bush's most loyal ally was the right winger Aznar. This indictment was no doubt a personal favour from Aznar to Bush.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E1DE1E3BF932A25751C0A9659C8B63
It seems an unlikely pairing the gregarious Texan and the reserved Castilian former tax inspector -- but a close friendship has formed between President Bush and Prime Minister José María Aznar of Spain.
''From the first moment, there was a current of mutual understanding and liking, and an extraordinary ease in the relationship,'' Mr. Aznar said in an interview on Friday, describing his relationship with Mr. Bush. ''And naturally that makes working together a lot easier.''
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I am very well acquainted with the patent process, but there is no such link between the moment of a patent application and the stage of product development. It is very well possible to apply for a patent for a product after you have proven (to yourself) that a product is feasible and that there might be demand for it (patents do not come for free, far from it).
What might have happened with mentioned remote control patent application 1 month after 9/11 is that the applicant understood that there might be a surge in demand for these systems and hende the application.
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Who is Will Thomas?
This guy....
"William Thomas investigating chemtrails in Capitola, CA"
By the way, I have been in that exact location that picture was taken. I go there every year. I hope I am not poisoned!
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So what is it? In your opinion, were the planes remotely piloted into the towers? Or were they piloted by operatives under control of the Mossad? Or did any planes hit the tower at all?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the only thing you're convinced of is that the official story is false.
And one more thing...why would there be a surge in demand for the remote control systems? What company in the world would advertise their proof-of-concept as "successfully remote-piloted four airliners into various U.S. landmarks?"
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Cool. I used to live in Aptos so I was biking through there all the time.
Capitola has a tradition of poisoning itself (sewage issues). They don't need NWO help!
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Damn NWO for ruining all the good places.
You want us to store our beer in slums? Good God man, show some human decency for your handlers.
You want us to store our beer in slums? Good God man, show some human decency for your handlers.
Ahh your right. Say, can we add the town of Georgetown, CA to the list of places to be Chem trailed? That place is filled with "dirty rednecks" and has no place in the New World. Boy this population control is great.
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The mossad send a new target course to the planes and disabled the console. That's the theory.
You are correct. I reject the official story and come up with an alternative.
Because at the moment of filing for application everybody believed the official story, including potential buyers and sellers for this system (and including me).
Nobody understood that the electronic anti-hijack system had been hijacked.
Except Dov Zakheim, Michael Goff, Amit Yoran and a handfull of co-conspirators in politics and Israeli army programmers.
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I assume that in order for your theory to be valid, the cockpit voice recorder would have to have been faked by the Mossad as well.
How did this "target course" get to whatever equipment you're speculating was planted on the plane? It would have to have been transmitted to it in flight. How did they disable the console? There's no kind of master override on these sorts of planes, and they didn't have fly-by-wire capability.
And I still don't see why the Mossad would have warned U.S. authorities months before the attack before they themselves did it.
It's like coming up to someone in a bar and saying, "Hey. Someone in this bar is going to come up and punch you any minute now-" and then punching the poor sap yourself.
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And yet your theory makes no mention of Bush. Time for a lttle theory inflation, I think.
Isn't it about time you provided proper evidence Huntleigh's involvement with security at the relevant airports? If you can't, then Der Theorie kann gehen.
While I appreciate the fact that Investigator has come forward and stated his theory, I am still disappointed as it lacks even a shed of evidence and the worst part is, this seems ok with him.
It doesn't seem to bother him that he is just making stuff up and "creating alternate theories" out of thin air.
Investigator, can you tell me, if you had to pick one, just one piece of evidence to back up your story.... what would be your best?
It doesn't seem to bother him that he is just making stuff up and "creating alternate theories" out of thin air.
Investigator, can you tell me, if you had to pick one, just one piece of evidence to back up your story.... what would be your best?
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I can't seem to find that this "anti-hijack" system has been produced past the level of a patent, much less installed on any airliners.
I have to completely dismiss this unless you can provide evidence that these systems had been manufactured and were present onboard the flights in question.
I have to completely dismiss this unless you can provide evidence that these systems had been manufactured and were present onboard the flights in question.
Investigator changes subject in 3.....2.....1....
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I'll look into that. A strong indication is that none of the 4 airplanes send a 'I have been hijacked' signal. This indicates that the loss of control was immediate. Unfortunately I do not have a pdf with the specs of such a system on my harddrive. I have the patent application, I have this pdf from Monaghan about the possibility of remote control (see post 219) and there is the well known story by Joe Vialls that appeared shortly after 9/11 which was the first source for the possibility of remote control.
http://www.geocities.com/mknemesis/printer.html
And we have the CV of Dov Zakheim, who was CEO of SPC, a company specialized a.o. remote control of airplanes. The same Zakheim that at the same time (1 year before 9/11) was co-author of the 'new Pearl Harbor' PNAC document. And the same Zakheim that headed a team of financial comptrollers in the Pentagon, that were to find out what happened to these missing 2 trillion dollar. Many of these comptrolers died in the Pentagon attack. Fortunately Zakheim did not die that day. So we can ask him a few questions. If he does not disappear to Israel in the mean time.
You understand, that is too many coincidences for me.
I would assume that this remote control facility is a thin layer around the existing automatic pilot facility. Monaghan makes clear that with the state-of-the-art technology in 2001 a pilot above the Atlantic heading for London can ask the stewardess to wake him up at the end of the runway in London, so to speak. That technology existed. The extra required functionality for a so-called 'home run' system is:
1) reading a signal from the transponder and program the new course (what normally the pilot would do manually if he wants to use his autopilot)
2) total disabling of all controlls
It was not just the Mossad. There were other intel agencies as well who warned. The warning however was not very specific. Nobody warned against a 9/11 type of attack.
The comparison is not valid, because in case of 9/11 it was not clear that the warner and the puncher were identical.
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What do you mean 'manufactured'?
We are talking possibly solely about additional lines of computer code to an existing system. I am not sure about retrieving a signal from the transponder, if that can be done pure with code yes or no.
P.S. I think these systems and documentation are classified. I do not think that airplane manufacturers will openly advertise with this possibility like: 'This Boeing767 is equiped with a home run system!!'. The public does not want to think about hijacking. Besides the system is in advantage of the authorities, not necessarily in the advantage of the passengers. It gives the authorities the possibility to ground an airplane without negociating and neglect shootings of passengers
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regarding ksm (mastermind). does anyone remember that he and Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh (mi6 or double agent) murdered the journalist daniel pearle who was researching the links between AQ and the pakistani ISI. now remember that Lieutenant General Mahmud Ahmed (leader of the ISI) sent Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh to wire atta 100,000 dollars. I wonder who KSM is really taking orders from. OBL or the leader of the ISI. and why the hell is the milirary not making this guy a huge priority. he is someone that needs to be interogated to the fullest extant.
Interrogate KSM? Damn, anti-semitic trutherbots not only are a waste of oxygen but they are stupid also.