How 9/11 was done

[gumboot]

Here is a short summary of the theory of how 9/11 was done:

- 9/11 = remote control + controlled demolition.
- originators: mastermind Zakheim; political nod by Olmert, Netanjahu in Israel and Cheney and probably Guiliani in the US.
- Olmert + Atzmon were Likud colleagues in 1998; Atzmon convicted in Israel for fraud went abroad to Holland --> CEO of ICTS (airport security) with Huntleigh subsidiary in the US, who did all the departure airports.

No they didn't, but let's see what else you have.

- Netanjahu + Silverstein were involved as well. Silverstein buys worthless WTC, worthless because of asbestos: clean-up cost higher then net worth of complex. Silverstein buys and insures with German insurer against terrorist acts a few weeks before 9/11.

Silverstein didn't buy the WTC, and it was highly profitable, and at nearly full capacity. Silverstein tried to have it insured for a ridiculously low amount and was forced to increase it (though still well under replacement value).

Silverstein and Netanjahu are wel acqainted with each other.
- Atta, Al Shehhi and Jarrah (3 'pilots') lived together in Hamburg. They got killed there by Israeli agents and dumped in the Elbe with bag filled with stones around their ankles; passport confiscated and used to lay a trail in the US at flight schools with Israeli stand-ins.

You forgot to mention that the Israeli stand-ins looked exactly like them. In fact, they looked so much like them that when Al-Shehhi's Israeli double travelled to Morocco in early 2001 to visit his family, they were completely fooled, as were the Al Qaeda operators of a safe house in Spain.

Of course then there's Jarrah, who, unlike the other hijackers, did not break off relations at all, and during his training he repeatedly visited his family and his German-Turkish girlfriend. All of them were, of course, totally fooled by the amazing Mossad double.

- In the weekend before 9/11 power is switched off in the entire WTC complex, excuse: maintenance. UMS vans loaded with prepared charges drive into basements of the WTC complex, next to elevator, unloads, open the ceiling of elevator roof and lift all the charges onto the roof of the elevator. Move elevator from floor to floor and connect charges to carrying columns. Leader of Israeli team is Peer Segalovitz, a demolition expert of the Israeli army.

It's a pity this complex-wide shut down never occurred. But hey, minor detail.

- On 9/11 it is this crew that waits on the other side of the Hudson for things to come, with camera's ('dancing Israelis').

Why?

- At the same time in Boston: the Israeli stand-ins for Atta and others arrive at the airport, with security as mentioned by Huntleigh/Atzmon. Makes sure the camera captures them. After check-in they leave the airport through a side exit. They do NOT enter the disaster planes.

We've covered the whole airport security thing, but that last point is interesting. The flight manifest records who actually physically enters the aircraft. I must presume, therefore, that you're claiming American Airlines and United Airlines are in on this plot to destroy four of their aircraft and murder a large number of their own employees (not to mention cause devastating damage to the airline industry) for the sake of Israel's peace of mind.

- Planes get air born. After some time the pilot observes that his entire control panel is disabled and that the airplane has changed course; he tries frantically to regain control of his aircraft, does not succeed. Obviously he does NOT inform his passengers in order not to cause panic. The passengers suspect nothing and hence make NO phone calls to relatives (which is impossible given altitude and speed anyway with cell phones).

Ah, those pesky phone calls. They really are a thorn in the Conspiracy Theorist's side aren't they? It's a shame someone forgot to disable the pilots' radios because Air Traffic Control heard one of the hijackings take place.

- Meanwhile, on the ground, Israeli start making phone calls to relatives of passengers in the planes and tell the fable of the hijackers with box cutters. They are using simple commercially available devices based on voice morphing and caller-ID spoofing (see blog for links). My contribution to the solution is that I found out how these agents got hold of sound samples in order to make voice morphing possible in the first place (keyword: Israeli firm Amdocs that has infiltrated US telecom networks).

Ah yes, because every single passenger on these aircraft booked their flight so far in advance the ninjas could actually gather enough detailed personal information about them to fool their relatives. Do you have any idea how utterly pathetically stupid the above is?

This in summary is the plot to do list:

This should be good.

- buying WTC (and insure against terrorist acts for nice profit)

Well they forgot to buy it, and they badly under insured it, so not off to a good start. 0/2

- killing Atta and friends in Hamburg and taking passports and dumping bodies
- laying trail at flight schools

Except those pesky patsies somehow came back to life and visited their friends and loved ones repeatedly. Should have seen that one coming. 0/3

- buying large amounts of thermite and detonators and prepare at safe location

2000lb of thermite - $4.2 million
10,000m of detonating wire - $45,000
2,000 ignition charges - $23,000
Realising thermite can't be used for building demolition - priceless

0/4

- get hold of passenger list and collect sound samples using Amdocs

Curse those last minute cancellations and bookings.

0/5

- largest chunk: drive into WTC complex with vans and mount prepared charges in a weekend

Oops, forgot about the PAPD and their bomb sniffer dogs. 0/6

- make 10-20 or so phone calls to relatives using samples for voice morphing + caller-ID spoofing

You think in the planning stage someone would have suggested the phone calls were a bad idea. 0/7

- push the buttons in WTC-7 after impact of planes

The severe fire damage, structural damage, and FDNY professional assessment of the building's condition was of course sheer coincidence. 0/8

9/11, that's it.

Worse conspiracy ever. Ever.

Is that too much to ask in order to get an army of 150.000 moving to capture the ME-oilfields and make the ME safe for Israel? I do not think so. It is not much work. It is a beauty of an efficient plot!

It is the stupidest thing a homo sapiens sapiens has ever suggested.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I hate to burst your silly little bubble, but this is false. One is forced to wonder why it is you are so eager to believe the words of a known anti-Semite bigot.

If Hitler were to tell me in a shrieking voice and with clenched fists that 2*2=4, then I would think 'the guy is right' and continue with my business. That probably makes me an anti-semite in your book, but I could not care less.

As far as I know Bollyn is a christian, was married with a jewess and lived in Israel once. Not exactly the classical beer hall anti-semite CV.

 

[Sparky]

As far as I know Bollyn is a christian, was married with a jewess and lived in Israel once. Not exactly the classical beer hall anti-semite CV.

Bollyn is also a fugitive from justice in this country. Not exactly the classical upstanding citizen.

 

[calebprime]

btw, voice-morphing is more advanced than just pitch-shifting, but it is nowhere near capable of faking the calls.

To do that, you'd have to know all about the passengers, enough to fool their loved ones.

as for the rest, we have Godwin & misunderstanding the 'ad hom'.

But, Gumboot has made the most substantial effort so far.

What have you to say to Gumboot's specific points?

That they're not nice enough?

What do you say, Sherlock?

 

[chillzero]

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[Sparky]

Unless most of the preparation is done before that weekend. In my theory they had hundresd if not thousands of compact packages with radiographic controlled detonators. All the had to do is to attach them to columns. How? With rubber bands, glue, iron wire, textile, anything. I cannot see why it should be impossible to attach let's say 2000 prepared packages with a crew of 10-20 in 2 days time.

And just in time to have these carefully prepared packages blown off of the columns by airplane impact and destroyed by the resulting fires, assuming of course that they weren't noticed by one of the thousands of building occupants.

 

[gumboot]

If Hitler were to tell me in a shrieking voice and with clenched fists that 2*2=4, then I would think 'the guy is right' and continue with my business.

This is all well and good, but your problem here is you're spouting things that quite simply are not true. You clearly haven't made any attempt to independently verify Bollyn's claims otherwise you would know they are false. In contrast, you presumably have known since childhood that 2X2=4, thus when Hitler affirms this fact to you, it is something you are already aware of, and there is no need to verify Hitler's claim.

Let's focus on a simple basic point which you've claimed repeatedly.

Security at the airports. You seem to be claiming that Huntleigh USA held the security contract at Logan International Airport, Washington Dulles International Airport and Newark International Airport in September 11, 2001. However, as you mention going through check in, I'll have to assume you also mean they had the contract for security for United Airlines and American Airlines at these airports. What you seem to have missed is that Airlines provided their own security.

Now, this claim is rather startling, but sadly it isn't true. If you do a bit of digging, as I did, you'll soon discover that Huntleigh only had one contract of interest - baggage handling for United Airlines. They didn't have any relevant security contracts with any of the airports or either of the airlines. In fact, if you had bothered to pay attention to your own conspiracy theorist friends you'd know that a company called Securacom had the security contract for Washington Dulles International Airport that morning.

Of course, if you'd bothered to do any research you'd know this already, so clearly you haven't. That means you took Bollyn's word for it. So I'll ask again. Why are you so eager to believe whatever that man claims?

 

[Sparky]

btw, voice-morphing is more advanced than just pitch-shifting, but it is nowhere near capable of faking the calls.

The call recorder/voice changer he was referring to earlier as "available technology" can hardly be called a voice morphing device. The example he used is basically a harmonizer resulting in an octave shift either higher or lower.

 

[8den]

Good evening, greetings from Amsterdam/Holland.

Kudos to all the responds and not a single stoner joke.

- Atta, Al Shehhi and Jarrah (3 'pilots') lived together in Hamburg. They got killed there by Israeli agents and dumped in the Elbe with bag filled with stones around their ankles; passport confiscated and used to lay a trail in the US at flight schools with Israeli stand-ins.

So all you need to proof your theory true is to dreg a chunk of the Elbe, and the greatest conspiracy is proven true?

Gosh thats awesome.

 

[calebprime]

The call recorder/voice changer he was referring to earlier as "available technology" can hardly be called a voice morphing device. The example he used is basically a harmonizer resulting in an octave shift either higher or lower.

Oh, I get your point.

I've used many such harmonizers.

They have to be very sophisticated to not sound like Donald Duck or Darth Robot--they have to retain formant regions, not just shift pitch.

What I thought he was talking about was a more sophisticated device, this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm


To fake the calls, you'd have to get samples--many high quality samples--of the passengers, and compile a complete database of everything about them, as well as their speech habits and mannerisms.

Na-Ga (No Go, No Way, Jose)

 

[calebprime]

Kudos to all the responds and not a single stoner joke.

Boy, I'd love to be there with Harold and Kumar right now, floatin' down a canal.

 

[Sparky]

What I thought he was talking about was a more sophisticated device, this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm


To fake the calls, you'd have to get samples--many high quality samples--of the passengers, and compile a complete database of everything about them, as well as their speech habits and mannerisms.

Na-Ga (No Go, No Way, Jose)

Exactly. There is no way that such sophistication could have been achieved on a realtime basis under the circumstances.

 

[T.A.M.]

I theorize that 19 Leprachauns carried out 9/11. They used their magic to do so.

My theory has about as much evidence as the OP.

Let me know when the author of the OP brings some evidence. Otherwise, someone simply point him to the links where this has been discussed.

TAM

 

[funk de fino]

Refers to power down.

The link in my blog is dead. Try: google '9/11 wtc power cuts' --> more than 100.000 hits.

www investigate911 com/911facts.htm
(had to enter spaces).

FACT: In the weekends prior to 9/11, the Twin Towers were shut down, evacuated and the power cut completely off. Employees complained such has never happened in their twenty years of working in the Twin Towers. Employees witnessed numerous foreign-looking workers carrying heavy bags of equipment into the Twin Towers;

www willthomasonline net/willthomasonline/The_WTC.html

POWER DOWN
Scott Forbes is taking the day off. The senior database administrator has worked all weekend and into Monday morning to shepherd every Fiduciary Trust's computer system safely back online after the WTC's first “power-down” saw the New York Port Authority cut electricity to the South Tower from the 48th floor up. The reason given was to install a fiber optic upgrade to increase the Trade Center's computer bandwidth.

But why only to the upper floors? Forbes wonders. And why power down the upper floors when the announced upgrade involves fiber optic cables that conduct light, not electricity?

As one of the Trade Center's first occupants, Fiduciary Trust spent a great deal of time and money powering down their computer systems prior to the power cut, which began early Saturday, September 8th and continued until mid-afternoon the following day. Computer consultants and their own staffs are still at work this morning in the Fiduciary offices on the 90th and 94th through 97th floors in the South Tower.

For nearly 30-hours, the WTC's upper floor elevators and security systems have been rendered inoperative. Though power remained to the lower floors, Forbes has seen many unfamiliar faces roaming freely through the upper corridors. In an email to journalist John Kaminski, author of The Day America Died and America's Autopsy Report, Forbes wrote, “Without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors, and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower.”

Except you and scott forbes have the unfortunate problem that my friends were up the twin towers that weekend and that someone has posted pictures of tickets for the observation deck during that time. Scott is a liar.

The power may have been off in his office floor but that is it. The power was not out to the whole tower and certainly not for both.

I suggest you take your user name as avice and research this part better because up until now its been an F-

Your fact is false

 

[NoZed Avenger]

Because nothing is linked to the Russians. And what is the motive? Why would Russia give the US a motive to invade the Middle East which holds 60% of worlds oil reserves. Russia was very weak anno 2001. Fortunately no longer.

That's easy: oil prices. A conflict with Middle Eastern countries with oil reserves -- Iraq, Saudi (where the highjackers were actually from) -- would drive up the price of oil immensely, which is just about the only thing propping up the Russian economy. Indeed, that is a major reason *why* Russia is "no longer" as weak as in 2001.

Russia had therefore at least as good a motive as the Israelis, and just as many "links," since the entire house of cards in your OP is based on conjecture.

 

[bje]

There are only 2 possibilities:

1) Arabs (Arab Conspiracy Theory - ACT)
2) Some kind of inside job (CIA, Mossad)

Do we have to go through this all over again? Everyone knows it was the Canadians.

Sheesh...

 

[9/11-investigator]

It is implausible.

But your direct approach is commendable.

Sherlock Holmes is a fictional character, written by a man who also believed in mediums and spirits. No one actually operates like him.

Instead of links, you need evidence.

Before you can acquire evidence you need first a narative to find evidence for.

Could you please elaborate why this ICTS story is implausible.

 

[9/11-investigator]

That's easy: oil prices. A conflict with Middle Eastern countries with oil reserves -- Iraq, Saudi (where the highjackers were actually from) -- would drive up the price of oil immensely, which is just about the only thing propping up the Russian economy. Indeed, that is a major reason *why* Russia is "no longer" as weak as in 2001.

Russia had therefore at least as good a motive as the Israelis, and just as many "links," since the entire house of cards in your OP is based on conjecture.

But no Russian equivalents for Silverstein, Atzmon, Kroll associates, Urban Moving Systems, Clean Break, PNAC I presume.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Except you and scott forbes have the unfortunate problem that my friends were up the twin towers that weekend and that someone has posted pictures of tickets for the observation deck during that time. Scott is a liar.

The power may have been off in his office floor but that is it. The power was not out to the whole tower and certainly not for both.

I suggest you take your user name as avice and research this part better because up until now its been an F-

Your fact is false

Any link to these posted pictures you are referring to?
There are thousands of links that state otherwise.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I assume by "they" you mean the US.

So now you are implying that we would not have been content with just removing Saddam from power so, while we're in the neighborhood and all, we would have also attempted unprovoked invasions of two sovereign nations.

Yes. In 2003 we got this ridiculous notion from Washington that 'we're an empire now' and constant threatening of regime change here and there. We had utterances from mainstream characters like Michael Ledeen saying that America needs to throw some crappy little country against the Wall on a regular basis, just to show that we mean business. I never even heard Goebbels say these things. Until this day Washington is not ruling out the 'use of force' against countries like Iran and Syria.

Are you insane? For what possible purpose would we do that knowing the worldwide condemnation we would receive?

Lust for conquest, just like the Attila the Hun, the Bolsheviks, Alexander, Caesar, Hitler. Why does the US need to spend more on 'defense' than the rest of the world combined? The US might be tempted to get some return on investment for all this military spending. Did not build the US it's largest embassy in Bagdad? Does it not have 8 or so military bases in Iraq

You do realize that the decision to invade Iraq was unpopular with a large part of our citizens from the start and would never have received the required support of Congress had it not been for the (erroneous) WMD intelligence reports, don't you? Unlike Afghanistan, there never was any solid evidence linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks.

Not at all! There was hardly any resistence against the invasion; maybe some libertarians uttered a protest, but that was the minority.

There would have been a nationwide clamor for Bush's immediate resignation had he even dared to ask for approval for either a Syrian or Iranian invasion.

Now maybe, with the economy in tatters and worse to come (Americas automobile industry is on the verge of collapse). But not in 2003. Bush could do anything back then. Even invade France ('chees-eating surrender monkeys'; Oh how right these 'monkeys' were).