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Prediction: President Obama will pull the nuclear trigger!

sophia8

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Obama to pull the nuclear trigger on Iran in 2009?
Her chilling prediction also included incredible detail in the fact that “the first black president will win the US election in 2008 and his name will be OBAMA.”

She goes on to say that “within a month of his inauguration in January 2009 he will fire nuclear missiles on Iran”

Remember this was 68 years ago - how COULD she have possibly known?
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Wow. She must be amazing if she was using the term 'nuclear missiles' five years before Hiroshima. :rolleyes:
 
Do you have any evidence besides someone saying this in what appears to be a tabloid?

Saying "X predicted this 15 years ago!" after the fact (of Obama being elected) is kind of a waste of time. I can now say that I predicted it when I was 5 years old, but it doesn't make it become true. Where do we find this prediction written down in print say, 25 years ago? It didn't say at your link.
 
“President Obama will press the nuclear trigger on Iran in 2008”.
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Funny. He won't have access to the 'trigger' until 2009. Great prediction.
 
In fairness, the claim is in early 2009 we'll launch missiles at Iran to retaliate for a strike on Israel.


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wdimac said:
Wow. She must be amazing if she was using the term 'nuclear missiles' five years before Hiroshima. :rolleyes:
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And was saying "Iran" during a period when most regular joes were still referring to them as Persia.

But if it's in a supermarket tabloid, there must be something to it. :rolleyes:
 
Curiously, a web search for "Helen Duncan" "Madeline Powers" does not find this tabloid article, or any biography of Helen Duncan by her "biographer" Madeline Powers. In fact, it gets no hits at all.
 
That tabloid page says she was jailed for witchcraft and espionage. Were people still being jailed for witchcraft in the 1940s? Somehow I doubt it. If this person actually existed, I'd think she was just jailed for espionage.

I think I'd like more proof than a paper that reports an alleged spy was put in prison not just for being a spy, but also for being a witch.
 
The only thing 'chilling' about this is the fact that there are going to be people who believe it.

Everyone knows it's not a trigger at all, more of a giant red plunger.
 
Edges said:
That tabloid page says she was jailed for witchcraft and espionage. Were people still being jailed for witchcraft in the 1940s? Somehow I doubt it. If this person actually existed, I'd think she was just jailed for espionage.

I think I'd like more proof than a paper that reports an alleged spy was put in prison not just for being a spy, but also for being a witch.
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She was not actually jailed for Witchcraft (if Wiki is correct) She was jailed under that particular Act of parliament though.



Wiki said:
During World War II, Duncan held a seance in Portsmouth at which she indicated knowledge that HMS Barham had been sunk. Because this fact had been kept from the public, the British Admiralty chose to attempt to discredit her. Police arrested her after another seance. She was initially arrested under section 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824, a minor offence tried by magistrates. However, the authorities regarded the case as more serious, and eventually discovered section 4 of the Witchcraft Act 1735, covering fraudulent "spiritual" activity, which was triable before a jury. Charged alongside her for conspiracy to contravene this Act were Ernest and Elizabeth Homer, who operated the Psychic centre in Portsmouth, and Frances Brown, who was Duncan's agent who went with her to set up séances. There were seven counts in total, two of conspiracy to contravene the Witchcraft Act, two of obtaining money by false pretences, and three of public mischief (a common law offence).
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Edges said:
That tabloid page says she was jailed for witchcraft and espionage. Were people still being jailed for witchcraft in the 1940s? Somehow I doubt it. If this person actually existed, I'd think she was just jailed for espionage.
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Firmly existed. Theories to exactly why the british establishment went after her depend on which side you are on. Me I tend to think it was due to distaste over her makeing money out of griveing sailors families.
 
This "prediction" was allegedly made in 1956, that's not 68 years ago unless the OP is posting from 2024. In which case the prediction probably didn't come true anyway.

The Helen Duncan website makes no mention of any prediction about a black US president or a nuclear attack. Odd, that. If she really predicted such a thing, you'd think that website would be trumpeting it (if only to help sales of the $20 ebook). I can't post links yet but it's at www dot helen duncan dot org dot uk (get rid of all the spaces).
 
This is weird because my grandmother, who died in the 70s, once said the exact same thing. The first black president would be named Obamma and start a nuclear war in the middle east in February. Actually she said something like I would freeze if I didn't wear my coat in February but that's as close as this story is.
 
Is this one of those Bible Code type predictions a la Nostradamus? Read her book backwards and take every third word style thing?
 
Duncan was prosecuted under the witchcraft Act, an act which begins by stating firmly that there are no real witches and then goes on to outlaw fraud based on pretending to have magic powers. It's a shame the 18th century legislator didn't have a nose for 20th century PR when they decided to name their act.
 
brodski said:
Duncan was prosecuted under the witchcraft Act, an act which begins by stating firmly that there are no real witches and then goes on to outlaw fraud based on pretending to have magic powers. It's a shame the 18th century legislator didn't have a nose for 20th century PR when they decided to name their act.
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Exactly. It's a bit dishonest (yes, I know we're talking about a tabloid here) of to say she was jailed "for witchcraft". According to the quote of the law which fromdownunder provided, she was jailed for defrauding people using a "magic powers" scam. It would be like saying that someone jailed as a result of the Patriot Act was jailed for Patriotism. Name of the edict not being the name of the crime sort of thing.

I find it disheartening that there are people who would actually believe this kind of thing.
 
JohnG said:
The only thing 'chilling' about this is the fact that there are going to be people who believe it.

Everyone knows it's not a trigger at all, more of a giant red plunger.
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NO! Now I am disappointed. I thought it was one of those big contact switches like in the Frankenstein movies.
 
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