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Is Biden retarded???

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Biden is saying a lot but the media mostly ignore it makeing it easy for McCain to distort the record.
 
I saw that this morning and thought "what the hell?"

Biden needs to put a filter on the brain-mouth thing he's got going on. I understand the point he was trying to make -at least I think I do, this one's a doozy though- and I can't think of a worse way to word it.

McCain's response:
“Sen. Obama won't have the right response, and we know that because we've seen the wrong response from him over and over during this campaign.”
I think this one is pretty weak. He was given this thing on a silver platter, and this is all he could come up with? He could have knocked this one out of the park.
 
Yes, that's pretty stupid of Biden to say. The same statement could be made of any new president, McCain included. Just like there are people willing to assassinate the president no matter who he or she is, and for whatever reason, people are going to try to test the mettle of any incoming president.

Biden's heart is in the right place, but his mouth goes all over.
 
Yes, that's pretty stupid of Biden to say. The same statement could be made of any new president, McCain included. Just like there are people willing to assassinate the president no matter who he or she is, and for whatever reason, people are going to try to test the mettle of any incoming president.

Biden's heart is in the right place, but his mouth goes all over.


The amazing thing to me is that it seems most people see through the ill-timed things Biden says for the honesty in it. It seems to be more of an endearing thing than a hurtful one. McCain's problem is he's overplayed the negative card to the point he can't benefit from exploiting Biden's words. Plus, McCain seems to be very inept at using such things to his advantage anyways.
 
Retarded... I'm hesitant to go that far, but it just adds to his other major gaffes... I think he speaks before he thinks about the impact of what he's saying...
 
To add some context to the thread, bolding mine.

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here," he joked.

"All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place," he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. "We have the ability to straighten it out. It's gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us."

The argument that the media "ignore Biden, making it easier for McCain to distort the record" overlooks the fact that this was a closed-door fundraiser (somewhat akin to Obama's San Francisco "bitter, gun-clinging" event) where Biden was speaking unaware of the media's presence, and promptly wrapped up once he noticed them. As such, it provides interesting insight into how he really feels.
Additionally, while we may argue whether the same statement can be made of any new president, it is abundantly clear that that is not what Biden is referring to. He specifically recalls President Kennedy, who was a young and inexperienced (at least as regards foreign policy) President when he took office.
 
Yes, that's pretty stupid of Biden to say. The same statement could be made of any new president, McCain included. Just like there are people willing to assassinate the president no matter who he or she is, and for whatever reason, people are going to try to test the mettle of any incoming president.

Biden's heart is in the right place, but his mouth goes all over.

God love him. Joe's justgot foot in the mouth disease. :)

Dee
 
Oh well. Knew that those famous Biden gaffes would be part of the package.
I think it's already been "priced in" as they say.
 
The amazing thing to me is that it seems most people see through the ill-timed things Biden says for the honesty in it.
At least here they do. I bet they're frothing at the mouth on Hannity.com

I think the public at large, and by that I mean people who aren't completely ignorant of the political players know that Biden is a gaffe factory and willing to separate the wheat from his verbal chaff.

However, if elected and they take a nose-dive in the polls I don't think people will have their parsers turned down so low, like they don't with certain ineloquent-as-can-be current presidents.
 
Wow, I guess he figured the media would be so busy with Palin that what he says doesn't matter. The "I've forgotten more about foreign policy than my collegues ever knew" comment was especially endearing.
 
Oh well. Knew that those famous Biden gaffes would be part of the package.
I think it's already been "priced in" as they say.

Now that's comedy. LOL!

Joe should have learned from Obama's "they cling to guns and religion" gaffe that someone is alwasy watch and just waiting for you to put your foot in your mouth.

Unfortunately putting his foot in his mouth is Joe's favorite pastime. :)

Dee
 
Joe should have learned from Obama's "they cling to guns and religion" gaffe that someone is alwasy watch and just waiting for you to put your foot in your mouth.

Nah, the other way around. Biden has been making gaffes since Obama was in Bobba Fett underoos.
 
Nah, the other way around. Biden has been making gaffes since Obama was in Bobba Fett underoos.

Now that's comedy. :)

But unfortunately everyone wasn't walking around with cell phones with cameras just wating to make you a star on Youtube when Obama was in underoos.

Dee
 
Did you hear his last big gaff? McCain doesn't need advisors. All he needs to do is listen to Biden and then repeat it back.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/20/politics/fromtheroad/entry4535043.shtml
That's considered a gaffE now? All this is, is Biden speaking candidly. Just because it isn't "politically convenient", doesn't make this the worst thing anyone has said during this campaign.

That price probably goes to John "THE ECONOMY IS STRONG" McCain.
 
Joe is just good hearted, stream of consciousness stupid. He just doesn't know when to shut up.

Yeah. He'll be a lot of fun to watch in the VP seat over the next few years.
He'll provide hours of entertainment.

This administration, should they win, will provide the right wing demagogues with tons of ammunition, despite all of their moaning...especially those on the radio. President ObaMarx will provide the ideologies to rail against and Binden will provide the sound bites.
 
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