Homeopathy - I am ready for open challenge

How did you obtain your solute?

What is it?

What was its purity?

How were the homeopathic dilutions created?
 
muntadev2in said:
I will reply for any genuine comments.
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I can't help noticing that, despite this promise, muntadev2in has not in fact replied to most of the questions asked or any of the helpful suggestions that have been made, indeed has not posted on the thread at all since about two hours after he created it three days ago. So I guess we don't have a potential homeopath challenger for the $1 million after all.

I am desolated.
 
MRC_Hans said:
Ahh, welcome muntadev2in!

Of course muntadev2in's formal qualifications is a valid query.

Hans
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I spent 8 1/2 years of my life time to study homeopathic science (BHMS 5 1/2 + MD(Home0) 3 years. My qualification is not questionable. I am asking, how many of you Know Homeoopathic principles.

Also I have a doubt JR offering million $, why can,t he have his own script to run his website and forum..... why he is using open sources if he have million dollars? My doubt he is not having that much money.

Try to understand Homeopathic priciples before making any comments.

Thanks, I will meet you 2maro by 10am,

Dr.Dev
 
Hey, he's back! Excellent.
muntadev2in said:
I spent 8 1/2 years of my life time to study homeopathic science (BHMS 5 1/2 + MD(Home0) 3 years. My qualification is not questionable.
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Has anyone questioned them since you gave them?

I am asking, how many of you Know Homeoopathic principles.
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Well I do, and many here (Linda and MRC_Hans, for example) know far more than I do.

Also I have a doubt JR offering million $, why can,t he have his own script to run his website and forum..... why he is using open sources if he have million dollars? My doubt he is not having that much money.
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The money has been donated as prizemoney, not as funds to run JREF. It's in a bank, waiting to be won. Ample proof is available on this site.

Try to understand Homeopathic priciples before making any comments.
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As I said, we already do. Any chance of the promised responses to questions and protocol suggestions now?
 
If you wish to see some of the posters in action against people like yourself, it may be in your own interest to read a few of these threads http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/tags.php?tag=homeopathy. Failure to read, understand and learn from these threads will mean that you will repeat the mistakes others have made and you will meet the same fate - being laughed from this forum.
 
muntadev2in said:
I spent 8 1/2 years of my life time to study homeopathic science (BHMS 5 1/2 + MD(Home0) 3 years. My qualification is not questionable.
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Actually, it is. I don't know who you are. Would you like to talk clinical research protocols or do you want to continue with the small talk?

I am asking, how many of you Know Homeoopathic principles.
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I do and many others do as well. How is this relevant to your claim?

Also I have a doubt JR offering million $, why can,t he have his own script to run his website and forum..... why he is using open sources if he have million dollars? My doubt he is not having that much money.
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Irrelevant to your claims. This continues to be a popular dodge by those who are unable or unwilling to accept the challenge.

Try to understand Homeopathic priciples before making any comments.
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I do understand it and it's principles continue to be unfounded.
Do you have anything of relevance to state concerning your claims?
 
Review of your "experiment":

How was the study randomized?
How was the study blinded?
How was the test substance prepared? What was the dose concentration of sulfur in the test substance?
What is the effect of regular Sulfur in 1c dose on a regular test subject? What type of sulfur was used?
What was the placebo? How was the placebo blinded/compared to the test substance in color, taste, container etc.?
What is the baseline health of the test subjects? How were they randomized?
Why was this method used to test skin temperature(which is easily changed by room temperature) instead of using core body temperature?
What time scale and time of day was each subject group tested to consider cirrcadian rythm?
What power calculations and errors and variants was considered in your pre-experiment calculations?

I have so many more but we'll start with these.
 
muntadev2in said:
Also I have a doubt JR offering million $, why can,t he have his own script to run his website and forum..... why he is using open sources if he have million dollars?
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1)vBulletin is not open source.

2)IBM (Net income $10.4 billion) uses open source stuff.
 
muntadev2in said:
I am asking, how many of you Know Homeoopathic principles.

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Try to understand Homeopathic priciples before making any comments.
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You appear to be recycling one of Dr MAS's old excuses.

The basic principles (similars/infinitessimals etc.) are really pretty simple. Hahnemann expressed the whole of homoeopathy in a book of not much more than 200 pages.

But a detailed knowledge of the principles is irrelevant as far as testing it is concerned (or as far as assessing the evidence for effectiveness is concerned, for that matter). Tell us what you can do, and how, and we can help you design a test protocol acceptable for the Challenge.
 
muntadev2in said:
I spent 8 1/2 years of my life time to study homeopathic science (BHMS 5 1/2 + MD(Home0) 3 years. My qualification is not questionable. I am asking, how many of you Know Homeoopathic principles.
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There are many people that spend their entire life devoted to a complete nonsense, it doesn’t make it less nonsense by wasting even more time whit it.

muntadev2in said:
Also I have a doubt JR offering million $, why can,t he have his own script to run his website and forum..... why he is using open sources if he have million dollars? My doubt he is not having that much money.
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I believe that the million dollars are not to be spent or else you wouldn’t have a million dollars as a prize to give.
Anyways, you do not see anyone that passed the test complaining about not getting the money, do you? (because nobody so far passed the test, …good point, but irrelevant)


muntadev2in said:
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More then you actually think, enough to be able to point out that homeopathy offers no explanation, has a construct without logic or reason (“why is that so?: you know because prefing”).
You whit your 8 ½ years of experience should know better then anyone else that it has noting to support it.

Real science in the other hand says it doesn’t work, you know that foolish man called Avogadro whit his crazy theory that there are such thing has atoms and that we can make an estimate how many there are, whit such a nonsense thing called evidence to support it. Stuff like that.
 
If we gave you 20 vials, one containing a 30C homeopathic remedy and the other placebos, could you tell us which is the homeopathic remedy (using any method you like, preferably by 'treating' people)?

If you could do this three times in a row then I'm pretty sure this would be good enough odds (1/8000?)
 
Crundy said:
If we gave you 20 vials, one containing a 30C homeopathic remedy and the other placebos, could you tell us which is the homeopathic remedy (using any method you like, preferably by 'treating' people)?

If you could do this three times in a row then I'm pretty sure this would be good enough odds (1/8000?)
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Can I spend 8 1/2 years repeating the experiment?
 
Well, in general I always enjoy seeing polite, proponents of these 'alternative medicines' because it allows a good debate to be established. Also, if these medicines do work, and you do have proof, they're obviously not woo. So I will enjoy seeing you attempt to post proof and discuss it with intelligent individuals.

To anyone dismissing this out of hand: Please don't. If we drive away the good posters who do post interesting stuff (even if we consider it woo) all we'll have left is the thoroughly vetted posters (i.e. boring consensus forum) and the trolls (like our dear departed Gnome). Not really the sort of forum we want.

Anyway, Mr. Viswakarma (if this is the wrong form of address I apologize) welcome. I am not qualified to address any of your posts, unfortunately (I'm an engineer, not a doctor, and what I know about these things is enough to know that I don't know that much), but I welcome the discussion and I assure you I will be reading both your posts and the relevant responses. I just wanted to assure you that your efforts (even if I believe them misguided) are appreciated.

To everyone else: Y'all know I appreciate your solid information anyway ;)
 
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Hello, muntadev2in. You said,
muntadev2in said:
Now I am ready for open challenge to prove that Homeopathic dilutions are different from alcohol or water.
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When you were asked if you meant the JREF $1 million challenge, you said,
muntadev2in said:
yes realy I want advice on protocol
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But then you said,
muntadev2in said:
Also I have a doubt JR offering million $, why can,t he have his own script to run his website and forum..... why he is using open sources if he have million dollars? My doubt he is not having that much money.
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Anyone can verify that the prize money exists:
http://www.randi.org/challenge/goldmansachs.pdf
So let's hear no more of that excuse. You'll find the application and FAQ here.

To be sure we're all on the same page, please answer this question: do you intend to apply for the $1 Million Challenge? Yes or no?
 
muntadev2in said:
I will reply for any genuine comments.
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You will reply,
I have to comply,
Otherwise you'll stay shy,
No matter why,

You can't reason,
Your thoughts will end in treason,
Moderators close threads for no reason,
You're a godsent and we're looking out for reaaasooon...

[chorus]I left homeopathy
For lack of a better rhyme,
I left homeopathy,
Because I prefer to commit a crime

You will reply,
I have to comply,
Otherwise you'll won't answer,
The curiosity will give me cancer,

[chorus]I left homeopathy
Because it can't cure a damn thing,
I left homeopathy,
Because I can't rhyme it with anything...

Honestly, I think you're at the wrong place. You won't find agreements, you'll find people questioning you, in a discussion forum, I mean. Of course, if you come at the enemy's den, saying (and I quote) "I am back again with my positive experimental results with Homeoapthic[sic] medicines." I can only hope you start enlightening us heathens about your holy medicine, instead of sitting in a corner dodging questions.

Coward.
 
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