KingMerv00
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Then I expect him to show up on MSNBC any day now.
Christopher Hitchens Endorses Obama
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Then I expect him to show up on MSNBC any day now.
Don't look for Hitchens on MSNBC's Olbermann or Maddow. Contrary views are as scarce on their shows as hockey players in Santo Domingo.
Which of the two party system in America would you find liberals?
You are the one standing in the hole you dug by trying to insist Hitchens is a Republican.
Ausmerican
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Cant speak to Olbermann but Maddow invites plenty on, they just dont come. She regularly scrolls a list of all the members of the McCain cmpaign she invites on the show to give their POV that "could'nt make it". So far one has turned up. Although I dont think Pat Buchanan shares many views with her and he is semi regularly on their yelling at her.
Absolutely amazing that what you saw, I saw none of. I thought McCain meandered. I thought his patting on the shoulder of the veteran was, if not staged, simply creating a "camera" moment. I thought he was vague in all of his answers, and came off far from "presidential".
Interesting how the same performance can be seen in two completely different ways.
TAM
KingMerv00
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Hitchens has been on Olbermann at least once:
Course Olbermann hardly got a word in so I don't know if they had contrary views.
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Cleon
King of the Pod People
Again I ask, if supporting Republican policies and a Republican president doesn't make him a Republican, what does? Do you have an answer?
It's knowing the secret handshake, I suppose.
Puppycow
Penultimate Amazing
An excellent debate between Hitchens and Alterman
I have to admit that Hitchens has me half convinced that the Iraq war was a mixed bag. I still agree with Alterman that on balance it wasn't worth it, but if it's true that this led indirectly to rolling up the Libya WMD program and the A.Q. Kahn network, then maybe it was not a total failure. I accept that it is not absolutely clear anymore, although it seemed to be in 2006. This has certainly come at a very high price.
I have to admit that Hitchens has me half convinced that the Iraq war was a mixed bag. I still agree with Alterman that on balance it wasn't worth it, but if it's true that this led indirectly to rolling up the Libya WMD program and the A.Q. Kahn network, then maybe it was not a total failure. I accept that it is not absolutely clear anymore, although it seemed to be in 2006. This has certainly come at a very high price.
A canard does not gather validity through repetition. In your world, support for removing Saddam from power Iraq is the sine qua non of a Republican.
William Jefferson's policy was regime change in Iraq. Is he a Republican? "Snipery" Hillary voted for the Iraq War. Is she a Republican. Biden same thing.
Many registered Republicans and Democrats vote across party lines. Does that mean they have abdicated their political ideology?
A traditional Republican is for smaller federal government, minimum taxes, no nanny state, etc. Get the picture?
Ole KO looks amazingly like Anderson Cooper. I told you finding contrary opinions on KO would be a Herculean task.
Tricky
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Which is why it is so sad to see what the GOP has become. Now they are for bigger government, especially the military, low taxes but big deficits, and a nanny state that taps telephones, and tells you who you can marry, what you can do with your own body.
We need more traditional Republicans. These neocons are giving the GOP a bad name.
dudalb
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Someone once said that one day Hichens can say something that makes you want to Cheer him and the next day he will say Something that makes you want to Strangle him.
A smart man, but he seems unable to drop the arrogance for even a minute.
A smart man, but he seems unable to drop the arrogance for even a minute.
Cleon
King of the Pod People
Which sounds lovely and snide, but doesn't answer my question at all.
So George W. Bush isn't a Republican. Gotcha.
davefoc
Philosopher
I noticed that too. It's amazing how all these guys come to look the same.
Bush 43 is/was for bigger government. McCain is for bigger government. His Republican creds have always been shaky.
Is your phone tapped? Nanny state? Even when RFK had JFK authorize the FBI to tap MLK's phones, it wasn't for MLK's own good.
You can cohabit with anyone you wish. In several states, you can even marry anyone you wish. Sure seems like a state's issue. Just as abortion should be a state's issue. You can't sell your kidney on ebay so there are laws about what you can and can not do with your own body. These laws have nothing to do with Republicans.
He sure ain't a conservative. But since he is head of the Republican Party, he is indeed a Republican. How does that get Hitchen's closer to being a Republican?
You ain't kidding. I still think KO and Raychill Maddow are the same person doing a split screen.
Cleon
King of the Pod People
You didn't say conservative. You said republican.
Specifically:
Then you say:
But if Bush isn't for any of the things a Republican is for, how is he a Republican?
Do I have to ask again, or will you just admit that you really have no idea WTF a Republican actually is?
Tricky
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It looks like Chris Buckley won't be supporting Obama from the pages of The National Review, the magazine his father started. Buckley was fired (technically he offered his resignation, which they accepted "briskly") after his blog in which he endorsed Obama made the rounds.
Personally, I've never read the younger Buckley, apart from his blog that made the news, so I don't know if he had any of his father's flash and panache, but it does seem a little quick and brutal, even for the execution of a traitor. If the NR wants to cement their image as intolerant of any opinion other than the right wing, they have done an admirable job of doing so.
Hitchens is neither a conservative or a Republican. Since you are the only one profering this absurdity, we can now move on to why Bush 43 IS a Republican, but not necessarily a conservative.
Bush was the Republican Governor of Texas and became the GOP candidate in 2000. He was won two elections running as a Republican. In the 2008 primary, there were a dizzying number of candidates running for the Republican nomination. Ron Paul, one of six Republicans that did not vote for the Iraq War, was among them.
Just because Lincoln was differant from T.R. who was differant from Ike, who was differant from Nixon, who was differasnt from Reagan, who was differasnt from Bush 41, who was differant from Bush 43, does not mean that they are not Republicans. I'm sure many thought Clinton was not a Democrat when he reformed welfare.