Truthers...what is your best piece of evidence ?

ULTIMA1 said:
So you agree then they had good reason to bring the building down since they were worried about damage if it collapsed on its own and would probably spread fires?
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im sure if they had the ability to take it down in a controlled manner they would have, however thats simply not possible while the building is still burning

fortunately when it did collapse (on its own) it didnt spread files, however the debris did cause severe damage to neighboring buildings
 
roundhead said:
Your a loon.
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You know resorting to name calling jsut proves my point about believers.

I think it can be fairly said that any demo of a 47 story building would require planning and preparation well ahead of the event. Like any demo always has.
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Yes, during a normal demo, but this was not a normal demo. It was an Emergeny Incident.

The NYFD isnt qualified to demo a building. They are trained in Firefighting, not demolition.
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Nobody stated the NYFD did the demo.

But the fire rescue teams do have the equipment and knowledge to cut beams for rescue.

Not only that, i think its unpatriotic to even imply they had anything to do with its destruction.
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I know it unpatriotic to disrespect the family members of those who died. So stop spreading lies. How about thinking for yourself and do some research to find the truth.
 
defaultdotxbe said:
im sure if they had the ability to take it down in a controlled manner they would have, however thats simply not possible while the building is still burning
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You mean only burning on the upper floors, since the EPA recovered all the fuel from the ground floor tanks.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Becasue it would cause more damage (with the damage on the side it would probably fall to that side) and may spread fires.
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......This might be true if WTC 7 were framed like an empty box, however the building consisted of internal vertical supports including the exterior. The failure mode would be entirely dependent on what vital component failed, how vital the component was to supporting the structure, and where it was located. Your post assumes that none of the internal structural framing plays a role in dictating in what way the collapse progresses.
 
To funny. U - Roundhead is on your team. He's a CTists just like you. He does the same amount of research you do, which is nothing. That's why you guys come to different conclusions. When you do honest research and follow the real evidence you would end up at the same place, but you guys just make **** up, so you don't.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
You mean only burning on the upper floors, since the EPA recovered all the fuel from the ground floor tanks.
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ignoring FDNY reports that there was fire on every floor are you saying there was nothing flammable on the lower floors of WTC7?
 
defaultdotxbe said:
ignoring FDNY reports that there was fire on every floor are you saying there was nothing flammable on the lower floors of WTC7?
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IF there was fire on the ground floors how did the EPA end up recovering all the fuel in the ground floor tanks?

Are you saying the fuel was not flammable?
 
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ULTIMA1 said:
So you agree then they had good reason to bring the building down since they were worried about damage if it collapsed on its own and would probably spread fires?
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No, I don't.

ULTIMA1, why are you continually dodging this question:
Why did the FDNY secretly demolish WTC7 and then lie about it to the entire world?
 
funk de fino said:
FEMA say that the EPA reported 12,000 gallons missing from the underground tanks.
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But you missed or forgot this part.

http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
It is worth emphasizing that 20,000 gallons (of a maximum of 23,200 gallons) where recovered intact from the two 12,000-gallon Silverstein tanks. So, it is probable that the 20,000 gallons recovered was all of the oil in the tanks at that time. Since the oil in the Silverstein tanks survived, we can surmise that there was no fire on the ground floor.
 
One of the best videos that I have found is the one where the BBC is caught reporting that building No7 collapsed 20 minutes before it even happened. How did they know this was going to happen?
 
Mark Carter said:
One of the best videos that I have found is the one where the BBC is caught reporting that building No7 collapsed 20 minutes before it even happened. How did they know this was going to happen?
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Because they were conspirators in the whole thing, had a script of how the day was going to happen but screwed up by reporting it early.


But seriously, since you are new, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. They knew because it was no secret. The FDNY predicted it was going to collapse because of natural causes and ordered the building and the area around it evacuated so nobody else would die (and nobody else did die when it collapsed). The BBC heard reports of this and misinterpreted that it had already collapsed. It is not as if this was the only thing that the media screwed up in reporting that day.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
But you missed or forgot this part.

http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
It is worth emphasizing that 20,000 gallons (of a maximum of 23,200 gallons) where recovered intact from the two 12,000-gallon Silverstein tanks. So, it is probable that the 20,000 gallons recovered was all of the oil in the tanks at that time. Since the oil in the Silverstein tanks survived, we can surmise that there was no fire on the ground floor.
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No, I never missed it or forgot it. Where is the missing 12,000 gallons from the underground tanks then?

ETA - also you never answered earlier. What do you class as upper floors in a 47 storey building?
 
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roundhead said:
Your a loon.
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ULTIMA1 said:
You know resorting to name calling jsut proves my point about believers.
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As was pointed out elsewhere, Roundhead is a Truther, he believes it was an inside job, that means as far as a Believer, he's a believer in the same thing you believe ULTIMA1. Don't you think that it's a little funny when even those that are on your side think your ideas are crazy?
 
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