Truthers...what is your best piece of evidence ?

twinstead said:
Why no. We've never heard of that document. Try a search on it in the forum search. We've discussed it to death. I'll wager many here know a LOT more about the document than you ever will.

Agents, I think he's on to us! Code blue! CODE BLUE!
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so you`ve heard of it and still think that the u.s govt would never stage anything on their own soil and blame it on foreign enemies huh.
 
kookbreaker said:
checkitb4uwreckit said:
Had you bother to lurk or do a simple search you would have found that Northwoods has been discussed several times. The problem with your claim above is that:

1) Northwoods does not explicitly say it would kill Americans. It actually works around that in many ways.

2) It was rejected outright.

3) Northwoods does not resemble 9/11 at all.
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Actually the plan made it all the way to the presidents desk, kennedy rejected it fired the guy who wrote it, and look what happened to kennedy.
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checkitb4uwreckit said:
so you`ve heard of it and still think that the u.s govt would never stage anything on their own soil and blame it on foreign enemies huh.
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"Never staging anything" is a far cry from "staging something every bit of scientific evidence says wasn't staged and not a shred of legitimate evidence proves even the possibility of."

You're veering into the realm of "if you don't believe an inside job, you must either be brainwashed into believing anything or a Bush apologist." It's the last bastion of the self-deluded.
 
checkitb4uwreckit said:
so you`ve heard of it and still think that the u.s govt would never stage anything on their own soil and blame it on foreign enemies huh.
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Your "logic" is appalling. Because an administration devised a plan 45 years ago is not proof that the current administration planned and executed the 9/11 attack. Quit drinking Loose Change Kool-Aid.
 
Drudgewire said:
"Never staging anything" is a far cry from "staging something every bit of scientific evidence says wasn't staged and not a shred of legitimate evidence proves even the possibility of."

You're veering into the realm of "if you don't believe an inside job, you must either be brainwashed into believing anything or a Bush apologist." It's the last bastion of the self-deluded.
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lol in your mind legitimate evidence = only evidence that points the finger at bad, crazy, muslims, who hate us for our freedoms and the boogeyman directing this from a cave in afghanistan, which there is not a single shred of, then your standards are a little biased. There is not a single shred of evidence linking bin laden which the FBI has admitted to which explains why the acts of 911 isnt listed as one of ladens crimes on his most wanted poster.
 
checkitb4uwreckit said:
Actually the plan made it all the way to the presidents desk, kennedy rejected it fired the guy who wrote it, and look what happened to kennedy.
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it always gives me a special little chuckle when CTers try to use one unfounded theory as evidence for another unfounded theory (and in this case both are being used to prop up a third unfounded theory)
 
checkitb4uwreckit said:
175 and 93 landed in cleveland. 11 and 77 is still a mystery but in my opinion were swapped and then disposed of elsewhere. Its not even important. The fact is that the official story is false and lied about where the planes came from.

The link i sent u clearly states what i claimed try reading the title.
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Your own link does not claim this. Your own link contains a story that was reported in error and then withdrawn by AP and the mayor. It does not claim 175 landed at cleveland. It mention 93 landed there.

This proves you are incapable of reading or you are lying. Which is it?

If you are not even able to read your own links then there is no reason to continue with you.
 
checkitb4uwreckit said:
lol in your mind legitimate evidence = only evidence that points the finger at bad, crazy, muslims, who hate us for our freedoms and the boogeyman directing this from a cave in afghanistan, which there is not a single shred of, then your standards are a little biased. There is not a single shred of evidence linking bin laden which the FBI has admitted to which explains why the acts of 911 isnt listed as one of ladens crimes on his most wanted poster.
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Great googily moogly. I don't even know where to start with that treasure trove of paranoid stupidity... so I won't.

Ultima can again pat himself on the back for being the only newb twoofer able to avoid my ignore list beyond the day I've seen them. It's like trying to debate waterfowl. :rolleyes:
 
courtesy of 911 myths said:
Rumor One: Cleveland Mayor Mike White told reporters that United 93 haD landed safely at Hopkins on 9/11.

Evidence For: At 11:43 a.m. the morning of 9/11, the following Associated Press news bulletin appeared on the Web site for Cincinnati ABC affiliate station WCPO, Channel 9: "A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White. White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated. United identified the plane as Flight 93."...

Evidence Against: Former Mayor White hardly ever talks to the media now, so Free Times contacted his former press secretary Della Homenik.

"It has always been my understanding that United flight 93 diverted from its intended flight plan while it was in Cleveland air space," Homenik writes in an e-mail. "I never heard a single report, from any source, either on September 11 or in its aftermath, that flight 93 landed in Cleveland."

A review of WEWS Cleveland Channel 5's live coverage of White's comments that day show that he never suggested that the grounded plane parked at the end of a Hopkins runway was United 93.

"Let me walk through the most current situation that we are grappling with," says White at the brief press conference. "At this moment, we have a Boeing 767 in a secure area of Hopkins International Airport. The initial reports were that this plane was hijacked and that there was a bomb on board. There was, before this, an additional plane in our airspace. I am told through unconfirmed reports that we could hear screaming in the control tower. This plane has been diverted from Cleveland and at last report was in the Toledo airspace."

Later, we would learn that this 767 was Delta flight 1989. It had originated from the same Boston airport as United 93, but was cleared by inspectors after landing at Hopkins. It had not been hijacked, and there was no bomb. And United 93, by the way, was a 757...
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No. it did not land at Cleveland

http://www.freetimes.com/stories/14/20/plan-911-from-cyberspace
 
defaultdotxbe said:
it always gives me a special little chuckle when CTers try to use one unfounded theory as evidence for another unfounded theory (and in this case both are being used to prop up a third unfounded theory)
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Especially when you consider that Kennedy accepted damn near every crazy anti-communist plan that came across his desk (Bay of Pigs anyone?). You can just tell they read nothing more than some fantasists guide to politics without any further study.
 
defaultdotxbe said:
it always gives me a special little chuckle when CTers try to use one unfounded theory as evidence for another unfounded theory (and in this case both are being used to prop up a third unfounded theory)
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unfounded? wow let me guess u believe that lee harvey oswald acted alone killed kennedy with his magical bullets that turn corners, shot him from behind yet the bullet struck jfk in the front causing his head to whip back and to the left, and that the ss agents that abandoned the car were just confused, and that the driver slowed down the car to 5mph just as kennedy is shot for no reason, and that the witnesses running towards the grassy knowl were chasing a ghost, And that Kennedy firing the heads of all the intelligece agencies, and opposing terror plots to induce war with cuba had nothing to do with his death, and that the speech he gave denouncing secret societies and operations and how he would fight them had nothing to do with his death, and that jfk`s brain goes missing during the autopsy was not because it would prove the official story wrong but was a coincidence.

Do you believe every single story that your govt tell you?
willingly ignorant is how i shall describe you.

yay yay government is soo well and good, looking out for the citizens, never telling a lie, never commiting any crime whatsoever they`re just soo perfect. yayayayayayaya lets trust the u.s govt and believe everything they say, if they tell us that the sky is blue because it is reflecting off of invisible blue pixie dust produced by little fairies floating around then it must be true and every1 should believe it and if you dont you are crazy!
 
checkitb4uwreckit said:
unfounded? wow let me guess u believe that lee harvey oswald acted alone killed kennedy with his magical bullets that turn corners, shot him from behind yet the bullet struck jfk in the front causing his head to whip back and to the left, ...


...you are crazy!
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You use fiction, "JFK" the movie to drive your reality.
Your fictional world is running your conclusion on 9/11, made up tripe is what you like.

If you only had some evidence. Your fictional world would melt the ignorance of 9/11 truth.

This one post prove you don't research something to discuss it, you know what happen based on a Fictional Movie "JFK"; how cool. You use fictional junk to drive your conclusions.

checkitb4uwreckit said:
they shut the mayor of cleveland up quick, im surprised they didn't kill him for almost blowing the lid off their plan.
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Delusional statement backed up with your own fantasy.

You 9/11 delusions know no bounds. Kill the mayor! LOL
 
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beachnut said:
You use fiction, "JFK" the movie to drive your reality.
Your fictional world is running your conclusion on 9/11, made up tripe is what you like.

If you only had some evidence. Your fictional world would melt the ignorance of 9/11 truth.

This one post prove you don't research something to discuss it, you know what happen based on a Fictional Movie "JFK"; how cool. You use fictional junk to drive your conclusions.
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all you need is to watch the zapruder film taken of the event to KNOW that the shot came from the front. Therefore the official story is a crock of lies and **** rubbish crap that you enjoy soo much.
 
checkitb4uwreckit said:
unfounded? wow let me guess u believe that lee harvey oswald acted alone killed kennedy with his magical bullets that turn corners, shot him from behind yet the bullet struck jfk in the front causing his head to whip back and to the left, and that the ss agents that abandoned the car were just confused, and that the driver slowed down the car to 5mph just as kennedy is shot for no reason, and that the witnesses running towards the grassy knowl were chasing a ghost, And that Kennedy firing the heads of all the intelligece agencies, and opposing terror plots to induce war with cuba had nothing to do with his death, and that the speech he gave denouncing secret societies and operations and how he would fight them had nothing to do with his death, and that jfk`s brain goes missing during the autopsy was not because it would prove the official story wrong but was a coincidence.

Do you believe every single story that your govt tell you?
willingly ignorant is how i shall describe you.

yay yay government is soo well and good, looking out for the citizens, never telling a lie, never commiting any crime whatsoever they`re just soo perfect. yayayayayayaya lets trust the u.s govt and believe everything they say, if they tell us that the sky is blue because it is reflecting off of invisible blue pixie dust produced by little fairies floating around then it must be true and every1 should believe it and if you dont you are crazy!
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You have been fooled by the movie JFK. You really shuld check out the documentary the history channel did that showed how it all really went down. You MIGHT change your mind (I did) but I doubt it.

They do a great job explaining it all.

Watch the Z film VERY closely...."Back and to the left" is not accurate.
 
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checkitb4uwreckit said:
all you need is to watch the zapruder film taken of the event to KNOW that the shot came from the front. Therefore the official story is a crock of lies and **** rubbish crap that you enjoy soo much.
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Frankly, you have no idea what you're talking about. You just accept things you see on conspiracy websites as the truth no questions asked. If it supports your world view, it MUST be true, right? And if anybody disagrees with you, they just MUST be mindless government drones, huh?

LOL and you think we're the sheeple?
 
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