NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

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I'm still unsure, even if all this were true, why a shootdown would be covered up. 3 planes had already been crashed into buildings with unknown at the time but obviously huge casualties. Who knew where this one was headed?

Why cover it up and risk being discovered when it would have been understandable to shoot it down in the first place. Why fake all the evidence? I guess the mysterious workings of the NWO are not for us to know...
 
If there was a shoot down it would be classified,there fore the mere mention of said shoot down would be in violation of said classified information....Either way info has been sent to the FBI and one way or another he is in for a shock!
 
If there is a verified document that proves UA93 was shot down, I will quit JREF forever, as promised.

I think my membership is safe...lol

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
If there is a verified document that proves UA93 was shot down, I will quit JREF forever, as promised.

I think my membership is safe...lol

TAM:)
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I would agree.
I think our friend here is in for a very rude awakening!
I doubt the feds will take to kindly to his bull!
 
LashL said:
That's what I was looking for as I read the thread, and I did not see any such document or link to it.
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So... we don't even know what ULTIMA1 actually asked for.

How about it, ULTIMA1? Can you please post your FOIA request?
 
Bearing in mind that in actuality I work for a private consulting firm that does contracts with US government agencies, I would like to address Ultima's claim that him saying he's an NSA analyst does not violate any rules of OPSEC. He's wrong.

One of the first things I was told upon arrival at my current contract was not to spread around to too many people where it was I was working, as that would make me a potentially (I'm stressing that word to point out that it may not make MUCH difference, but it would make some) attractive target to terrorists and monitoring from other governments. With a few exceptions, I've generally honored that dictate, and since I've been on this project I've gotten much better at being discreet about what it is I do, even if what I do is not considered highly classified at all. My point being, for Ultima to spout off about being an NSA analyst on a public forum is highly suspect to me. It's one thing to do it on a forum made specifically for that agency, if such a thing exists; it's another thing entirely to do it on a forum open to literally anyone in the entire world. I have a background in intelligence via the military; I'm currently a captain in the Army reserves and am serving as an assistant brigade S2 for a local unit, and I'm fully qualified to brief on SAEDA, OPSEC, PHYSEC, and INFOSEC via training I took approximately four years ago. Ultima, if you are an NSA analyst, as I've said before, I'm a monkey's uncle. Analysts, if they want to keep their jobs and their security clearances, do not announce to all and sundry what they do; if asked, they will generally simply say "I work for the government". For you to announce this, as you are, on this forum, smacks to me of a small-time person desperately trying to make people believe he's a big shot. Sorry, you ran across someone with the experience to point out your mistake. Tough luck; better luck next time! *grins cheerfully*
 
@Cl1mh4224rd: the reply (from FOIA) does talk about CRITIC messages, a google search for "CRITICK messages" returns a cia page as the first link (would paste it here, but my newbie status ...).
 
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T.A.M. said:
Looks like Ultima has been playing this thing around for a while

[snip]I can't post urls[/snip]
TAM:)
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Indeed, and that leads to a report from July 24th (waynemadsenreport.com, article 20080724_1) which, unless you subscribe, simply says "Guantanamo prosecutors refers to United 93 being shot down.", which is nice. rawstory.com has a little more info:

"If they hadn't shot down the fourth plane it would've hit the dome," Stone, a Navy officer, said in his opening remarks, repeating Bin Laden's deputy's claim.

The tribunal's chief prosecutor, Col. Lawrence Morris, later explained that Stone was quoting Hamdan in evidence that will be presented at trial. Morris declined to say if the "dome" was a reference to the U.S. Capitol.​

So the prosecutors did say that United 93 was shot down, but only by quoting the defendant's own words. Not quite the definitive statement you find on Wayne Madsen's Report ...
 
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: dl : without the spaces between the colons and the letters.

Like so. :dl:
 
T.A.M. said:
I thought this document, given in the OP, was the FOIA request?

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/FLI93-2.jpg?t=1222974166
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Well, that's the response to his request, but it looks like they do quote what's probably the core of ULTIMA1's request. Why that escaped me before, I don't know.

Bobby said:
@Cl1mh4224rd: the reply (from FOIA) does talk about CRITIC messages, a google search for "CRITICK messages" returns a cia page as the first link (would paste it here, but my newbie status ...).
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I think this is the page you're referring to: https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...ence/kent-csi/vol4no2/html/v04i2a03p_0001.htm
 
Mr.Herbert said:
sorry... Ultima? You alive?
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Don't you worry, he'll reply eventually. One thing I know of him is that he won't let these comments go. He has to make good with his script consisting of insults like immature, "be adult enough", and my favorite, "living in a fantasy world".

From what I've seen of him at eBaum's World Forums and ATS, his weekday post schedule starts at around 3 am (when he claims to make the 2 hour commute to work :eek:) and around 3:30 pm, when he arrives home.

But his weekend schedule's a bit more random.

Sabrina said:
Bearing in mind that in actuality I work for a private consulting firm that does contracts with US government agencies, I would like to address Ultima's claim that him saying he's an NSA analyst does not violate any rules of OPSEC. He's wrong. ...
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Does it make it worse that on EBWF he had a PM conversation (or was it in a thread?) with me and said specifically that he analyzed foreign military aerospace items (fighters, bombers, missiles I'm assuming)? What are the consequences in the event he is NSA and his superiors get wind of him so freely proving himself an NSA analyst?
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
Well, that's the response to his request, but it looks like they do quote what's probably the core of ULTIMA1's request. Why that escaped me before, I don't know.




I think this is the page you're referring to: [snip]I cannot post urls ... yet[/snip]
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Thanks Cl1mh4224rd, that was it, the, no longer secret, "NOTES ON THE CRITIC SYSTEM".
 
Wow, so many new members......It's like ULTIMA1 came with his own entourage.


I just hope he answers my earlier questions....;)
 
Horatius said:
Wow, so many new members......It's like ULTIMA1 came with his own entourage.


I just hope he answers my earlier questions....;)
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:) Like <> is. Last time I checked I wasn't part of anybody's entourage, certainly not any twoofer's.
 
Bobby said:
:) Like <> is. Last time I checked I wasn't part of anybody's entourage, certainly not any twoofer's.
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Fair enough, but he does seem to draw the crowds!



But it seems the crowds may have scared him off before he answered my questions!


:mad:
 
Zipster said:
Don't you worry, he'll reply eventually. One thing I know of him is that he won't let these comments go. He has to make good with his script consisting of insults like immature, "be adult enough", and my favorite, "living in a fantasy world".

From what I've seen of him at eBaum's World Forums and ATS, his weekday post schedule starts at around 3 am (when he claims to make the 2 hour commute to work :eek:) and around 3:30 pm, when he arrives home.

But his weekend schedule's a bit more random.



Does it make it worse that on EBWF he had a PM conversation (or was it in a thread?) with me and said specifically that he analyzed foreign military aerospace items (fighters, bombers, missiles I'm assuming)? What are the consequences in the event he is NSA and his superiors get wind of him so freely proving himself an NSA analyst?
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If he is who he says he is.....he will be in handcuffs very soon.
I predict men in gray suits making him dirty his pants real soon!

Hey how do I get the million?
 
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