Absolute proof of video fakery

[JoeyDonuts]

Who knows? Maybe there should be an investigation.

Maybe we should waste millions of taxpayer dollars investigating other tragedies that had eyewitnesses. Maybe the USS Cole hit an exploding whale planted by the nWo. Maybe Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll by a Red Ryder BB gun that had been pumped like 1000 times and stuff.

But I'll go with you on this one. Sure. Whatever.

Who would you suggest lead this investigation, since we obviously can't trust our own government agencies?

 

[CptColumbo]

Oh by the way...Production control switchers in use at TV stations couldn't do that effect live. That demonstration video that was linked to was OBVIOUSLY done in post-production and not executed through a video switcher such as a TD might use in a real TV station.

Booyakasha.

The ones commonly used at TV stations probably couldn't, but there are some that can do live effects.

For example http://www.newtek.com/vt/index.php

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Clearly you've never seen the cardboard boxes demonstration, Mr. Smartypants. [qimg]http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/colbert.gif[/qimg]

Magical cardboard exists? Wait a tic...

 

[HyJinX]

When did I say it was missiles? I simply used that as an example of how the eyewitnesses are not 100% reliable. Please quote where I once said missiles were used. Stop putting words in peoples mouths and produce someevidence for a change.

Oh...the stench of irony from you is abyssmal.

 

[HyJinX]

Who knows? Maybe there should be an investigation.

What's stopping you, lil' buddy? Maybe you can make it an extra credit project for your Social Studies class.

 

[VespaGuy]

Just in case anyone missed this excellent advice...

Just a little suggestion for everyone's sanity, STOP RESPONDING TO mchapman! He is directly ignoring all evidence presented. He simply spouts nonsense without providing proof. Eye witness testimony of people seeing the plane has been presented to him several times, and he has chosen to ignore it EVERY time.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Stop lying. WHen asked why 911 wasnt listed on Osama's wanted page. the FBI clearly stated it was because they had no hard evidence linking him to 911. That was their exact words.

We also never saw the dossier of evidence they promised to hand over to the Taliban.

And lets not forget Osama categorically denied being involved. Indeed, he implied it was an inside job. And he would know, what with his CIa roots.

The only one here Lying is YOU. You were the one who tried to mislead about your claim about the FBI and Osama. It's nice to see you correct yourself in this post while calling me a liar.

it's correct they don't have enough evidence to DIRECTLY link Osama to the crime itself. But what you are ignoring is that he was the leader of the group who DID carry out the attacks and this is NOT in dispute. The FBI directly charges Al Qeada with carrying out the attacks.

It's like saying Al Capone didn't actually commit murder because he was charged with ta evasion. There's no doubt about what Al Capone did. Just like there is no doubt about what Osama Bin LAden did. You know, the guy who even admitted to it? you know the guy who ran Al Qeada who's many members openly admit to it? you know the group whom the FBI has conclusive evidence on?

Osama categorically admitted to planning the attacks and went into great detail to describe as to how he came up with the idea and why he decided to carry it out. There are video tapes of him with some o the hijackers as the hijackers give their suicide messages before the attacks. The only time Osama denied the attacks was at the time when the US was threatening to go after him. Had he admitted to it at the time, then Afghan would have immediately been invaded which would not be too welcome by the people who were kind enough to host his terrorist training camps which were used to carry out many of the other terrorist attacks against the US.

But I wouldn't expect a terrorist apologist such as yourself to understand. Not from someone using the old worn out argument about the CIA that you read from your favorite 9/11 cult tabloid. Try to start thinking for yourself.

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

What's stopping you, lil' buddy? Maybe you can make it an extra credit project for your Social Studies class.

What's stopping you from proving your conspiracy true? Your disdain for real investigations? Maybe you should at least read up on what you believe. At least then you would know things like the said hijackers were claimed to have used aliases and fraudulent identifications in the past.


Maybe you shouldn't spend so much time on social studies. You're probably just failing anyway.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

There was a real investigation and the events that happened that day have been concluded. Some people just can't come to grips with reality. If you kids want a witch hunt, then it should be on your dime. Don't waste our money on your fantasies. No one is stopping you from getting out the old red flyer wagon, a red cape, and paying for your own investigation.

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

There was a real investigation and the events that happened that day have been concluded. Some people just can't come to grips with reality. If you kids want a witch hunt, then it should be on your dime. Don't waste our money on your fantasies. No one is stopping you from getting out the old red flyer wagon, a red cape, and paying for your own investigation.

Yeah that's right. Wall Street, Illegal wars, dirty dresses, etc. are all more important then 9/11 to debunkers.

It must be because they’re so patriotic.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Yeah that's right. Wall Street, Illegal wars, dirty dresses, etc. are all more important then 9/11 to debunkers.

It must be because they’re so patriotic.

...what?

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Ejecting now.

 

[TJM]

You have no evidence of anything. You just parrot an official story. Even the official story admits it has no hard evidence against osama but you still claim he did 911. You have absolutely no evidence of the identity of the hijackers, men who have had no trial.

Dead men don't need a trial. How about addressing your OP?

Wow, lets hope you dont get accused of ahenious crime then die before your trial.

Dead men are presumed innocent until proven guilty, like everybody else.

As a cadaver, I think I'd hardly be in a position to give a rodent's behind how anyone would judge me, I'm dead. I would have no feelings on the matter either way.

Your OP, on the other hand, is what is in question here, or have you abandoned it?

 

[jhunter1163]

Mchapman, would you mind telling Stanley Praimnath just what it was that flew through his window and killed all his coworkers?

I'll throw this one open to all the truthers. Any takers?

 

[Steven Lupo Grossi]

I know Ace Baker was unsuccessful at finding any airplane witnesses to talk to him. I imagine he would love to talk to Stanley.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Yeah that's right. Wall Street, Illegal wars, dirty dresses, etc. are all more important then 9/11 to debunkers.

It must be because they’re so patriotic.

You're gonna need more than empty rhetoric buddy.

 

[Corsair 115]

I know Ace Baker was unsuccessful at finding any airplane witnesses to talk to him. I imagine he would love to talk to Stanley.

Did he bother to go to the library to look up issues of newspapers on microfilm? Specifically, he could start with their 9/12 issues and then read through the reporting to see if there are accounts from eyewitnesses. There are plenty of American and foreign newspapers which covered the events of that day, so there is plenty to research. I'd wager you could find some eyewitness testimonials amongst all those news reports.

Then he could move on to the reports of television news outlets, of which, again, there are many to choose from, including U.S. and foreign networks.

After that, he could move on to demonstrating how the forty other videos which show the second jet hitting the WTC towers, all taken from different locations with different cameras and by different people, are all also fakes as well.

Lastly, he could then demonstrate how all the still photographs of the impact, which appeared in newspapers, are also all fakes.


Or, he could take a much simpler and far more rational path and admit that the no plane proposition is ludicrous beyond words.

 

[yodaluver28]

Baker probably insisted on speaking to eyewitnesses in person so that he could ambush them with insane questions and innuendos until one of them got so ticked that they went off on him like Buzz Aldrin when he finally punched Bart Sibrel after years of harassment. I mean that would really be his only shot at discrediting them.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Produce 50 people who saw a plane and I'll shut up and go away.

Fair enough?

There are over 70 witness testimonies in the Gravy link alone, many more at the other links I provided. The point is that mchapman's challenge is answered beyond his specification.

Several people said they saw missiles [...]

Like the people who actually reported it to the police [...]

http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/

So were all these witnesses lying? [...]

Which serial numbered parts [...]

You have no evidence of anything[...]

Perhaps you could summarize [...]

Wow, lets hope [...]

When did I say I was a no planer?

Stop lying. [...]

Not necessarily.

When did I say it was missiles? [...]

How's the shutting up and going away working out for you, mchapman?

Dave

 

[funk de fino]

I know Ace Baker was unsuccessful at finding any airplane witnesses to talk to him. I imagine he would love to talk to Stanley.

unwilling more like

i would cross the street if i met him also