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Psychic Samurai applies for MDC...apparently...

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Talk about being spoon fed...

It's taken 24 pages just to get a claim together. It worries me when Jeff says the protocol is harder. But I'll play nice.

Mr Koenig, now that you have successfully submitted your claim, could you tell us whether you have had any positive results in the past with this type of event (recording of paranormal voices)? Im addition, and a repeat of my earlier question, will the proposed event occur on the evening of Halloween (October 31st)?

Chris
 
Jeff Wagg said:
October 31st puts a lot of restrictions on this, as does choosing a specific place. This gives you opportunity to rig the area, and we have to be very cautious about that. However, we should be able to work around them. I don't see how we can do it for 2008 though.

As to if we're almost there, no, we're not. The claim is a small part of this process. Now comes the protocol, which is much more difficult.
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Thanks Jeff for all of your help, and I really mean that!
I'm glad we can come to an understanding and move on to the Protocol section of the test.
Thanks
Dave

I will email the finalized claim in the morning or late afternoon when I return from work. We have no internet access on our current work location.
Thanks Again!
:cool::cool::):):):):cool::cool:
 
I'd like to thank all of you who helped so much and offered such great support through this process.
Thanks again!
Dave :)
 
Profwag said:
What's disheartening about this claim is that although the JREF would gladly pay a million bucks for proof of a paranormal event (think of the money they would generate in return), it is apparent that this applicant is only after the money and is trying every avenue to get it through a technicality. If I knew I could truly summon something paranormal, I wouldn't need the JREF as my wealth and fame that resulted from my success would far outnumber anything they could give me. Convincing some of the media of your paranormal event is impressive indeed. Of course, so was the recent Bigfoot story as well.
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You are coming to the party a little late with only your second post :)
Maybe you can help in the protocol?
:cool::cool:
 
The Professor said:
So if I make my claim
"I, David Koenig, will cause voices to appear on previously blank magnetic recording tapes by paranormal means."
Then you will accept the claim.
You aren't laying a TRAP? :)
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and then:


The Professor said:
I do need/prefer to do it on 10/31 but that isn't a problem is it?
Or replacing the word Paranormal with Not Scientifically Explainable?
Just because I'm a bit paranoid of you saying you will accept my claim.
Are those two things OK?
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reminds me of the Chuck Norris Fact:

Chuck Norris likes to knit blankets in his spare time, and by knit i mean “kick” and by blankets i mean “babies”.
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Classic.
 
jenski said:
"Will my insurance cover this procedure?"
"What procedure are you having?"
"I need to have it done!"
"Ok, what procedure are you having done?"
"WHY WON'T YOU PEOPLE COVER MY PROCEDURE?"
"Sir, what procedure are you having done?"


This is exactly how your 'negotiations' have gone so far.
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And, as in so many cases before, Scott Adams has been there with his Dilbert from Jan 29th 2006.
 
Here is what I will email.

"On October 31st at The Devils Chair in Lake Helen Florida, I, David Koenig, will cause voices to appear audibly (Or visibly) on previously blank magnetic recording tapes by Paranormal, or Scientifically Unexplainable, means."

How's that?
 
jimtron said:
Dave, I'm not sure why you are so shy about the term paranormal. Please keep in mind:

If you go to the MDC page, you'll see it's listed as the "One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge." And from the same page: "At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event."

If you don't sincerely believe that you can demonstrate something paranormal, there's no reason to apply, as that's the whole point of the challenge. Please keep in mind that the JREF has approved many claims and protocols involving demonstrations that were called "paranormal" by the applicants. So you needn't be shy about calling your event paranormal; on the contrary, the JREF needs to know what your paranormal claim is.

Why are you paranoid about the JREF accepting your claim? Do you not want to be tested?
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You obviously haven't read everything that has been written! I quoted that FAQ long ago and I'm sure more than once.

Why would you repeat things I've already said, if not to just waste time?

I am obviously suspect of the JREF but Jeff Wagg is doing a pretty good job of earning my trust at this moment :)
:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
 
You are planning to hold a magic show/seance ontop of someones dead granma. Wouldn that be a little disrespectful to the families of the deceased?

I'm smelling an exit door here. "it was the darndest thing, but the city denied me having a spiritist seance in a public cemetary"

Someone explain to me if I'm wrong here. but if I worked for the city, I would never in a million years accept a show/ a money contest in a public cemetary. I know this has been adressed before in this thread(what hasn.t..), but now it is a protocol issue, and has renewed relevance.
 
The Professor said:
I am obviously suspect of the JREF but Jeff Wagg is doing a pretty good job of earning my trust at this moment :)
:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
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Hi again The Professor,
Jeff has the respect of many of us here. I think that you will find you will get to testing a lot quicker if you assume that the JREF are approaching the MDC with good faith, than screaming "SHAM" at every little misunderstanding.

Cheers.
 
The Professor said:
"On October 31st at The Devils Chair in Lake Helen Florida, I, David Koenig, will cause voices to appear audibly (Or visibly) on previously blank magnetic recording tapes by Paranormal, or Scientifically Unexplainable, means."

How's that?
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Brilliant! Probably you have again managed to stall the process by including the "or Scientifically Unexplainable" means. While all paranormal is scientifically unexplainable, it is is not all scientifically unexplainable that is paranormal, which you have been told over and over again. Jeff gvae you the exact statement that you could use, and you did not!

I do agree, though with your addition that it has to happen at The Devils Chair on a certain date.
 
The Professor said:
I will email the finalized claim in the morning or late afternoon when I return from work. We have no internet access on our current work location.
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Are you claiming an ability to make posts appear on a web forum by paranormal means, as well as the voices on tapes thing?
 
eirik said:
You are planning to hold a magic show/seance ontop of someones dead granma. Wouldn that be a little disrespectful to the families of the deceased?

I'm smelling an exit door here. "it was the darndest thing, but the city denied me having a spiritist seance in a public cemetary"

Someone explain to me if I'm wrong here. but if I worked for the city, I would never in a million years accept a show/ a money contest in a public cemetery. I know this has been addressed before in this thread(what hasn't..), but now it is a protocol issue, and has renewed relevance.
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I've asked this a couple of times at least, and have yet to receive a hint of an answer as to whether or not he obtained permission, not just to visit the area, but to put on a show involving a lot of equipment, lights and personnel. Could we get an answer, from either side of this negotiation, as to whether or not permission from the proper authorities has been obtained to put on such a show there?
 
The Professor said:
You are coming to the party a little late with only your second post :)
Maybe you can help in the protocol?
:cool::cool:
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Sorry, I have better things to do than spend all day and night posting (like spending time with my wife--hint hint). And no, I won't help in the protocol. You've been around the block a time or two Slim. If you had anything in mind other than trying to outsmart the JREF for a little notoriety, you would have made serious claims to the paranormal years ago and would have already proven your abilities. Unfortunately, this test you propose will be a waste of everyone's time.
 
eirik said:
You are planning to hold a magic show/seance ontop of someones dead granma. Wouldn that be a little disrespectful to the families of the deceased?

I'm smelling an exit door here. "it was the darndest thing, but the city denied me having a spiritist seance in a public cemetary"

Someone explain to me if I'm wrong here. but if I worked for the city, I would never in a million years accept a show/ a money contest in a public cemetary. I know this has been adressed before in this thread(what hasn.t..), but now it is a protocol issue, and has renewed relevance.
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Czarcasm said:
I've asked this a couple of times at least, and have yet to receive a hint of an answer as to whether or not he obtained permission, not just to visit the area, but to put on a show involving a lot of equipment, lights and personnel. Could we get an answer, from either side of this negotiation, as to whether or not permission from the proper authorities has been obtained to put on such a show there?
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I know it's probably somewhere in this thread but I can't quickly find it so do you have the contact details of the place this is meant to take place at? I'll simply drop them an email and ask if they would allow something like this to take place there.
 
The Professor said:
I will email the finalized claim in the morning or late afternoon when I return from work. We have no internet access on our current work location.
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Perhaps you should submit another application. I think the ability to make posts appear on an internet forum without access to the internet might be considered paranormal.
 
eirik said:
You are planning to hold a magic show/seance ontop of someones dead granma. Wouldn that be a little disrespectful to the families of the deceased?

I'm smelling an exit door here. "it was the darndest thing, but the city denied me having a spiritist seance in a public cemetary"

Someone explain to me if I'm wrong here. but if I worked for the city, I would never in a million years accept a show/ a money contest in a public cemetary. I know this has been adressed before in this thread(what hasn.t..), but now it is a protocol issue, and has renewed relevance.
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You have not read what has been written making you ignorant of the subject matter at hand :)
 
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