What will Iran bomb first?

What place will Iran bomb first as retaliation?

  • Jerusalem

    Votes: 4 9.8%

  • Tel Aviv

    Votes: 8 19.5%

  • Haifa

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Beer Sheva

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Eilat

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • All of the above

    Votes: 8 19.5%

  • America

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • On Planet X, there are no Idiots

    Votes: 21 51.2%
  • Total voters
    41
egslim said:
Because selling nukes to Iran dilutes Russia's own position in the world as a nuclear power.
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From 11 nuclear bomb owning countries to 12.
What a difference..

egslim said:
If they want to hurt the US, better do it with something that benefits themselves. Sevastopol springs to mind. Hurting yourself because it also hurts your enemy is poor strategy.
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How will Iran having one or two nukes hurt Russia?

egslim said:
Perhaps, but that's no reason to do it.

They are also long term competitors as energy suppliers.
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World is quickly moving to thin-film solar panels energy

egslim said:
Not really, since Russia doesn't have the clout to take America's place in the Gulf.
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What are the other superpowers in the Gulf?
 
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Matteo Martini said:
I wrote that they will secretly buy nukes, and then publicly tell they have them, without specifying from which country they got them..
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I believe the Americans have mastered the process of elimination.

Do you honestly think that Russia would be willing to give nuclear weapons to a country that is not its ally and is practically on its borders? Knowing that if it did this, it would be picking a monumental fight with Europe, Israel, Iraq, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India, China, the US, and the UN?
 
gtc said:
I believe the Americans have mastered the process of elimination.

Do you honestly think that Russia would be willing to give nuclear weapons to a country that is not its ally and is practically on its borders? Knowing that if it did this, it would be picking a monumental fight with Europe, Israel, Iraq, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India, China, the US, and the UN?
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Would Iran having weapons be a problem for India? China? Turkey? Pakistan? Iraq?
Why?
And why do the Russian have to tell anyone that it is was them (and not Pakistan, China, India, ..) who sold the weapons?
What if Russia only sells the equipment and the know-how?
 
Matteo Martini said:
Would Iran having weapons be a problem for India? China? Turkey? Pakistan? Iraq?
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It should be obvious why Pakistan, Turkey and Iraq would be concerned given their proximity and less than satisfactory relations with Iran.

China and India are regional rivals to Pakistan and I would expect them to respond if Pakistan increased its nuclear capability in response to Iran. Neither side would be happy if access to the gulf was threatened either.

Matteo Martini said:
Why?
And why do the Russian have to tell anyone that it is was them (and not Pakistan, China, India, ..) who sold the weapons?
What if Russia only sells the equipment and the know-how?
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Again, it would eventually become obvious.
 
I wonder if Russia would particularly care if anyone knew they'd provided expertise, equipment or even weapons? It would be a good "Up Yours!" to the rest of the international community, which would play well at home, and after all what could anyone do about it?

I'm sure it would be in breach of a number of treaties, though; I just wonder if at this point Russia would be prepared to say "Sod it".
 
gtc said:
It should be obvious why Pakistan, Turkey and Iraq would be concerned given their proximity and less than satisfactory relations with Iran.

China and India are regional rivals to Pakistan and I would expect them to respond if Pakistan increased its nuclear capability in response to Iran. Neither side would be happy if access to the gulf was threatened either.
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Too many suppositions..
 
Matteo Martini said:
From 11 nuclear bomb owning countries to 12.
What a difference..
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No, Matteo. It isn't simply the increase from 11 to 12 that matters: it's the fact that the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty would be rendered completely meaningless.

How will Iran having one or two nukes hurt Russia?
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Why on earth would you think they would stop at one or two? Nobody does.

World is quickly moving to thin-film solar panels energy
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Uh, no. No, it isn't.

What are the other superpowers in the Gulf?
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Nobody can take America's place in the gulf, because nobody else has the naval power to do so. America could withdraw completely, and Russia still wouldn't be able to replace it: they simply don't have the ships.
 
Oliver said:
So he is not the ruler of Iran after all? :confused:
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You really don't know anything about Iran, do you?

Ahmadinejad does not rule Iran. He is the president. "Mullah" is a word for an Islamic clergyman. Ahmadinejad has no religious training, he is only a politician. The guy who is actually in charge is the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei. While Ahmadinejad plays a more direct role in the day-to-day operations of government, Khameini effectively has veto power over basically everything he does. The religious leadership (the mullahs) have ultimate control in Iran, not the elected government. It is a source of constant ammusement that you are willing to spout off about subjects such as the government of Iran when you are so trasparently and woefully ignorant of them.
 
Ziggurat said:
You really don't know anything about Iran, do you?

Ahmadinejad does not rule Iran. He is the president. "Mullah" is a word for an Islamic clergyman. Ahmadinejad has no religious training, he is only a politician. The guy who is actually in charge is the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei. While Ahmadinejad plays a more direct role in the day-to-day operations of government, Khameini effectively has veto power over basically everything he does. The religious leadership (the mullahs) have ultimate control in Iran, not the elected government. It is a source of constant ammusement that you are willing to spout off about subjects such as the government of Iran when you are so trasparently and woefully ignorant of them.
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Thank you for contradicting nearly the whole Pro-Israel community
and Media. It's much more credible if you explain it to those who
are not willing to use a rational mind.
 
Oliver said:
Thank you for contradicting nearly the whole Pro-Israel community and Media.
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Did I say Ahmadinejad had no influence? No, I did not. He's got influence. Furthermore, he's only President because the mullahs let him be president - nobody even gets on the ballot without their approval. His actions are constrained by their approval, and if he's talking about wiping out Israel, that means at least a significant fraction of those mullahs approve of such statements.

It's much more credible if you explain it to those who are not willing to use a rational mind.
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That's why I'm trying to explain it to you, Oliver.
 
Oliver is now busy proclaiming what a great leader the president of Iran is by offering to meet with McCain or Obama. Oliver has truly become the village idiot of JREF.
But his descent into Anti Semitism is sad,really, sad.
 
dudalb said:
Oliver is now busy proclaiming what a great leader the president of Iran is by offering to meet with McCain or Obama. Oliver has truly become the village idiot of JREF.
But his descent into Anti Semitism is sad,really, sad.
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Well, point out any Antisemitism - or apologize.

However: What will Iran attack in retaliation for the destruction for
the Iranian Reactor? Are you mentally capable to think about such
a question?
 
Oliver said:
However: What will Iran attack in retaliation for the destruction for the Iranian Reactor?
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Your cluelessness shines through once again. It isn't their reactor (which isn't built yet) which is the problem at the moment. It's their centrifuges.
 
Oliver said:
Well, point out any Antisemitism - or apologize.

However: What will Iran attack in retaliation for the destruction for
the Iranian Reactor? Are you mentally capable to think about such
a question?
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Well , your ranting about "The Jew Controlled Press" would strike most people as Anti Semitic.
 
Ziggurat said:
Your cluelessness shines through once again. It isn't their reactor (which isn't built yet) which is the problem at the moment. It's their centrifuges.
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No, the international Media reports that the Reactor is a highly probable
target as well. While centrifuges enriching uranium-235to a level of 3.7
percent while 90% is needed to build a nuke. No threat here unless you're
arguing like a two years old child losing it's pacifier.

However - and no matter what Israel would attack, what would be Iran's
retaliation? - Did you think about the answer yet?
 
I know I am in Godwin territory but I can't resist it:

If Adolf Hitler were alive today, and opposed the Bush Administration, then Oliver would support him.
 
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