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The Parapsychological Experimenter Effect

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I would like to present an excerpt for consideration and discussion.

An Introduction to Parapsychology pg 89-90

Process-oriented research and the parapsychological experimenter effect

"Before reviewing the research in to the nature of ESP one further methodological issue must be raised. It is known as the parapsychological experimenter effect and it raises the problem that if ESP and other parapsychological phenomena are authentic and can operate outside the individual's conscious control, parapsychologists may have no reliable avenue for determining the nature of ESP. That is, process-oriented research may well be futile.

As in other types of psychological research the performance of subjects in ESP experiments can be influenced by the behavior of the experimenter (e.g., see White, 1977). The experimenter's level of motivation and handling of the participants can influence the subjects' motivation and expectations which in turn may have an effect on the level of their scores. Similarly, if any of the experimenters actions suggest to the subjects the precise nature of the experimental hypothesis they may strive to perform in a way that otherwise they would not. These sorts of biases in the procedures of human experiments are familiar to psychologists and deliberate steps can be taken to minimize their operation and influence. Methodological problems arising from the influence of the experimenter on the data generically are called experimenter effects.

There is, however, an additional bias of this type that raises such special difficulties for parapsychological experimentation that it has come to be designated specifically as the parapsychological experimenter effect. Essentially the parapsychological experimenter effect in psi research is the partial dependence of the obtained data on the parapsychological abilities of the experimenter ( Kennedy & Taddonio, 1976; White, 1976). As the the parapsychological experimenter effect assumes the existence of psi it is not particularly problematic for the issue of the authenticity of ESP, but it does raise the question of whether it is possible for a researcher to investigate the nature of ESP.

Suppose, for example, that a researcher wanted to test the hypothesis that extroverts were better at psi than introverts. It is possible that the experimenter subconsciously might use his or her own precognitive and extrasensory abilities to locate series of targets which are more susceptible to good scoring and allocate these to the group of extroverted participants. There is indeed some empirical evidence that extrasensory abilities may be utilized non-intentionally (Schechter, 1977). If account is taken of the possibility of psychokinesis (a paranormal influence on physical systems by the mind) it is conceivable that the experimenter subconsciously might influence even the production of target sequences for each subject in a direction favoring the hypothesis. Hence an observed relationship between extroversion and ESP performance might be nothing more than an artifact of the experimenter's subconscious use of his or her own psi to generate results in accordance with this relationship.

To what extent does the the parapsychological experimenter effect operate? That remains unknown, but some study of the issue is being undertaken. It has been noted that some parapsychologists get a higher rate of significant results than others. Charles Honorton in America and Carl Sargent in England seem to have achieved a high proportion of significant ESP results in their research, that is, they evidently were psi-conducive experimenters; the British parapsychologists John Beloff and Susan Blackmore on the other hand, very rarely obtain a statistically significant finding in ESP tests and appear to be psi-inhibitory experimenters. This could be due to the familiar psychological experimenter effects (e.g., upon the subjects motivation), or to the greater psi abilities of the more successful experimenters (the parapsychological experimenter effect) or to other factors such as differences in the professionalism of experimenters and in the conservation of their hypothesis."
 
Can the experimenter effect only be recognized a posteriori?

For example, is a researcher identified as psi conducive or psi inhibitive only on the basis of whether or not they obtain statistically significant results?

Linda
 
Uh, the experiementer effect has never risen beyond statistical chance in any of the sudies. These are done by people who beleive in the paranormal.
 
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This is truly amazing. It's a formal, scientific-sounding example of You Can't Disprove An Arbitrary Assertion--being supported by more arbitrary assertions.

Let me see if I can translate the excerpt's key points into plain English:

1) Some psi experimenters consistently get better results than others.
2) Usually, such a bias is creditted to either bad experiment design, influence by the tester on the subjects (conscious or subconscious) to get a particular result, or carelessness.
3) But since we Really Believe in Psi, we posit that the experimenters have psi abilities that they are using (consciously or not) to influence the results.
4) This implies that it's not better experiment design and controls that produce results that don't support the existance of psi; it is PSI itself that produces those results.
5) Ergo, when some tests produce insignificant results or even negative results of psi, they are actually *supporting* the existance of psi.
6) Heads we win, tails you lose! Psi is whatever we need it to be.

I have to go outside now and take a walk before I laugh or cry about this...
 
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Uh, the experiementer effect has never risen beyond statistical chance in any of the sudies. These are done by people who beleive in the paranormal.
Yes, but this is because they subconciously doubt the paranormal.

I wonder if Harvey & Watt ever heard of Popper or just snort them.
 
From the excerpt:

"Essentially the parapsychological experimenter effect in psi research is the partial dependence of the obtained data on the parapsychological abilities of the experimenter ( Kennedy & Taddonio, 1976; White, 1976)"

Here is Kennedy & Taddonio, 1976 for you all to read:

EXPERIMENTER EFFECTS IN PARAPSYCHOLOGICAL RESEARCH

ABSTRACT

This paper outlines the types of experimenter effects that occur in parapsychological research. A distinction is drawn between those effects that seem to be mediated by psychological variables and those that result from extrasensory processes. The term "psi experimenter effect" is introduced to refer to unintentional psi which affects experimental outcomes in ways that are directly related to the experimenter's needs, wishes, expectancies, or moods. Several channels for the operation of psi experimenter effects are discussed, as well as numerous studies which support their existence. A review of the literature suggests that experimenter PK can influence laboratory investigations of psychokinesis and precognition. In addition, psi experimenter effects are indicated in studies showing variations in the subjects' reactions to different experimenters and in studies involving unintentional psi tasks.

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From the excerpt:

"Essentially the parapsychological experimenter effect in psi research is the partial dependence of the obtained data on the parapsychological abilities of the experimenter ( Kennedy & Taddonio, 1976; White, 1976)"

Here is Kennedy & Taddonio, 1976 for you all to read:

EXPERIMENTER EFFECTS IN PARAPSYCHOLOGICAL RESEARCH

ABSTRACT

This paper outlines the types of experimenter effects that occur in parapsychological research. A distinction is drawn between those effects that seem to be mediated by psychological variables and those that result from extrasensory processes. The term "psi experimenter effect" is introduced to refer to unintentional psi which affects experimental outcomes in ways that are directly related to the experimenter's needs, wishes, expectancies, or moods. Several channels for the operation of psi experimenter effects are discussed, as well as numerous studies which support their existence. A review of the literature suggests that experimenter PK can influence laboratory investigations of psychokinesis and precognition. In addition, psi experimenter effects are indicated in studies showing variations in the subjects' reactions to different experimenters and in studies involving unintentional psi tasks.

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And, um, if you can't trust studies on PK because of the interference of the experimenter's PK on the study, how exactly does one show that the experimenter has PK in the first place?
 
And, um, if you can't trust studies on PK because of the interference of the experimenter's PK on the study, how exactly does one show that the experimenter has PK in the first place?


Great question...I wish I had a great answer.

I think you're talking about trusting proof-oriented research, right? It seems that the experimenter psi effect is particularly problematic when it comes to process-oriented research, not proof-oriented research. From the excerpt:

"...it is not particularly problematic for the issue of the authenticity of ESP, but it does raise the question of whether it is possible for a researcher to investigate the nature of ESP."
 
Seems like a circular argument - they're trying to prove psi abilities...by saying that psi abilities influence the testing.

At the very least you have to prove that a series of effects can only be caused by the as yet unobservable phenomenon.
 
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Great question...I wish I had a great answer.

I think you're talking about trusting proof-oriented research, right? It seems that the experimenter psi effect is particularly problematic when it comes to process-oriented research, not proof-oriented research. From the excerpt:

"...it is not particularly problematic for the issue of the authenticity of ESP, but it does raise the question of whether it is possible for a researcher to investigate the nature of ESP."
No. I'm not really talking about anything of the kind. I'm pointing out the overall absurdity of the circular logic proposed.
 
Lets say an experimenter does some sort of a test for psi. Lets say it gets positive results. That kind of proof-oriented experiment might not say anything about WHOSE psi was involved: the experimenter or the subject or both.

Since all this hypothetical experiment is designed to do is detect psi period it might not really matter at that stage if the experimenter psi effect was a factor or not.
 
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Well, the hypothosis proposed includes the idea that the tester's psi influences the outcome.

If we're talking a test for scientific proof, maybe have a computer select and test the subjects from a pool? Take out the tester variable.

Science would not be satisfied with your hypothetical "it could be either/or" outcome.
 
Well, the hypothosis proposed includes the idea that the tester's psi influences the outcome.

If we're talking a test for scientific proof, maybe have a computer select and test the subjects from a pool? Take out the tester variable.


Good thought...but evidence seems to suggest that random number generators can be influenced by micro-PK.

Science would not be satisfied with your hypothetical "it could be either/or" outcome.


Well, that's where further process-oriented research (as opposed to proof-oriented research) comes in. Very tricky to do because of the variables and effects involved in psi.
 
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Good thought...but evidence seems to suggest that random number generators can be influenced by micro-PK.
I would be interested to see those studies and how they ruled out any other factors beyond the not-proven "micro-PK."

Well, that's where further process-oriented research (as opposed to proof-oriented research) comes in. Very tricky to do because of the variables and effects involved in psi.
Please do not state "facts" about a thing that is not proven to exist. You're confusing your idea of "what ifs" with scientific experimentation.
 
I would be interested to see those studies and how they ruled out any other factors beyond the not-proven "micro-PK."


If I dug up some material for you, would you actually read it?

Have you read the paper I linked to earlier by Kennedy & Taddonio? If not, why should I bother digging up more material?


Please do not state "facts" about a thing that is not proven to exist. You're confusing your idea of "what ifs" with scientific experimentation.


You're not the boss of me :p

Seriously, I happen to accept the "proof" of psi, based on both personal experience and the evidence of parapsychological research. I have accepted it for a long, long time. So I am going to talk about it as a reality, because I accept it as such, and if someone doesn't like it that's tough.

I happen to agree with Jessica Utts when she says:

"Using the standards applied to any other area of science, it is concluded that psychic functioning has been well established. The statistical results of the studies examined are far beyond what is expected by chance. Arguments that these results could be due to methodological flaws in the experiments are soundly refuted. Effects of similar magnitude to those found in government-sponsored research at SRI and SAIC have been replicated at a number of laboratories across the world. Such consistency cannot be readily explained by claims of flaws or fraud."

Furthermore,

"It is recommended that future experiments focus on understanding how this phenomenon works, and on how to make it as useful as possible. There is little benefit to continuing experiments designed to offer proof, since there is little more to be offered to anyone who does not accept the current collection of data."

http://www.stat.ucdavis.edu/~utts/air2.html

I accept the current collection of data. I accept my group and solo paranormal experiences.

People who don't accept the current collection of data haven't looked at it closely enough, or have listened to too many debunkers, or have strong personal/ideological/psychological aversions toward the subject...which can be as strong as a phobia. But anyway, lets not de-rail this thread ok?
 
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In addition, the whole idea of the "hypothesis" in the OP is just plain flawed.

They've already chosen the outcome - "psi exists" - and are tailoring a hypothesis (that cannot be repeated or measured) in whatever way necessary to fit that outcome.

The whole idea of a hypothesis is to try to prove it wrong and to fashion it in a way that can be disproven.
 
Good thought...but evidence seems to suggest that random number generators can be influenced by micro-PK.
Bold claim, put up the data. Is it beyond random chance?
Well, that's where further process-oriented research (as opposed to proof-oriented research) comes in. Very tricky to do because of the variables and effects involved in psi.

Mangling language isn't going to help, the proof is in the process. All proof is process oriented, some people just like to use arbitrary distinctions. what evidence based research is not part of a process?
 
Consider this sample of the experiments:

Stupid!
Experiment 2: AC of Binary Targets:
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Results: Using this method for enhancing the accuracy of the guesses, subject #531, who had been successful in previous similar experiments, was able to achieve 76 correct answers out of 100 tries. This remarkable level of scoring for this type of experiment resulted in an effect size of .520 and a z-score of 5.20. The other two subjects did not differ from chance results, with 44 and 49 correct decisions out of 100 or 101. (One subject accidentally contributed an additional trial.)
Still no sample or trial sizes. Sigh and a blatantly misunderstood application of statistics. the odds of getting a straight royal flush are (1/52)5x4. if you get one that means you must be cheating.


Experiment 7: Remote Observation:
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Results: To determine whether or not the galvanic skin response of the observees was activated while they were being watched, the response during the control periods was compared with the response during the "influence" periods for each subject. The results were then averaged across subjects. In both experiments, there was greater activity during the periods of being watched than there was during the control periods. The results were statistically significant in each case (p = .036 and .014) and the effect sizes were similar, at 0.39 and 0.49. As preplanned, the results were combined, yielding an effect size of .39 (p = .005). As an interesting post hoc observation, it was noted that the effect was substantially stronger when the observer and observee were of opposite sexes than when they were of the same sex.
All these assertions and no data, hwo many trials, what sample size, what deviation from the mean.

meaningless.
 
This is truly amazing. It's a formal, scientific-sounding example of You Can't Disprove An Arbitrary Assertion--being supported by more arbitrary assertions.

Let me see if I can translate the excerpt's key points into plain English:

1) Some psi experimenters consistently get better results than others.
2) Usually, such a bias is creditted to either bad experiment design, influence by the tester on the subjects (conscious or subconscious) to get a particular result, or carelessness.
3) But since we Really Believe in Psi, we posit that the experimenters have psi abilities that they are using (consciously or not) to influence the results.
4) This implies that it's not better experiment design and controls that produce results that don't support the existance of psi; it is PSI itself that produces those results.
5) Ergo, when some tests produce insignificant results or even negative results of psi, they are actually *supporting* the existance of psi.
6) Heads we win, tails you lose! Psi is whatever we need it to be.

I have to go outside now and take a walk before I laugh or cry about this...
Good post.

Even if you set up a totally automated ganzfeld, with no human involvement but the experimental subjects, invitations mailed out on a random day unknown to any experimenter, then somebody would say that a skeptic had psychically detected the experiment happening and had inhibited it, or that the time-symmetries in physics caused the experimenter effect to happen in reverse.
 
In addition, the whole idea of the "hypothesis" in the OP is just plain flawed.

They've already chosen the outcome - "psi exists" - and are tailoring a hypothesis (that cannot be repeated or measured) in whatever way necessary to fit that outcome.


Not if the experimenter psi effect can be detected in experiments.

Sorry but it seems to me that either researchers decide psi is real (or at least possible) and act accordingly, or they decide psi is not real and act accordingly. There are problems with both approaches, correct?
 
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