Rosie & Willie Rodriguez (Video)

What's up with Rosie these days anyway?

Other than hangin' with Willy I mean.
 
She is not doing much except for her blog. She keeps saying she is nearing a deal on a new syndicated show but she has been saying that since she left "The View",and you are not hearing anything about it from anybody but Rosie.Draw your own conclusions.
Apparetnly she tried to promote herself as the new host to replace Bob Barker on "The Price Is Right" but fell flat on her face. Drew Carey got the job.
Yeah, mouthing crap 9/11 conspiracy theories will really make your career catch on fire.
 
How much did he donate to the families of his coworkers or "friends"?

No, I don't. As far as I can tell, William Rodriguez *is* a 9/11 victim. He lost his friends, he lost his job, and he lost his faith in his country on 9/11.


So hes fund raising only for a single 9/11 victim? himself? and not the friends you say he lost? And changing his story to fit his audience.
 
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Nope, I have not done this. STOP IT WITH THE MISREPRESENTATION. I presented the testimony of those other witnesses as a possible way to corroborate his testimony (it all depends on what they say).

Cyber-screaming at me won't help your position. You are using the "alleged witness testimony" to imply that there is corroboration to the unconfirmed statements of Rodriguez.

I also take issue with even writting that you "presented testimony", because the fact is that there isn't any testimony to present. It is a non-issue, and like I wrote it should be dropped.

Again, this is a strawman. I haven't used those witnesses to actually "back up a statement."

Of course you have. I mean there is no other logical reason to even attempt to introduce such non-evidence. Oh and it isn't a strawman, you would do well to research the meaning of this term before throwing it around.

Either his claims are true or false. Either you have good evidence to accept his claims or not. If not, then the only rational position to adopt is to admit that you simply don't know. Be a skeptic - but be a intellectually honest one.

No, his claims could be partially true or they could be mostly false with a slight amount of truth. Although this is meaningless because the above qoute is a text book example of a false dilema, and clearly you fail to comprehend what is written.

I'm done. You people have proven yourselves to be nothing but pseudo-intellectual hacks. Good day.

Sure we have...or you have proven yourself to be a truther who believes that bombs were in the basement; but instead of arguing the point you play the agnostic game and try to engage us in a false dichotomy and then run off in a puff because we are intellectually honest enough to call you on it.
 
More is less more or less

If there are multiple of sub-levels in the basement, and Willie was on the top, why haven't more individuals that were closer to the basement explosion come forward?

Wow according to slick Willie 14 people in his office were lifted up by the blast at 846am yet NO ONE lese besides slick willie has every mentioned this?


If more came forward corroborating the story, would you give the story more credence, or simply find more ways to dismiss it?
 
Wildcat bombs

Any truther want to explain how someone can get close enough to a bomb to get severely burned, and not get blown to smithereens? Any idea what kind of bomb can do that?


Not that I am advocating it but...

from Wikipedia > Bomb:

"A thermal wave is created by the sudden release of heat caused by an explosion. Military bomb tests have documented temperatures of 3000 to 4500˚F. While capable of inflicting severe to catastrophic burns and causing secondary fires, thermal wave effects are considered very limited in range compared to shock and fragmentation. This rule has been challenged however by military development of thermobaric weapons that employ a combination of negative shock wave effects and extreme temperature to incinerate objects within the blast radius."
 
This could be tricky...

Could someone kindly explain why there is such a savage hatred of William Rodriguez?

(Is it because he's Jewish?)


I do not see savagery or hatred toward Rodriguez here. Dismay, disdain, and/or disgust, perhaps, but neither savagery nor hatred.


LashL,

William Rodriguez is a victim of the 9/11 crime. He was there. He is permanently scarred. He lost friends. For seven years he has dedicated himself to helping other victims of that crime.

Mr. Rodriguez was banned from JREF, and yet management is happy to allow this thread about him that he can't respond to. The thread's opening piece calls Willie a whore, and accuses him of exploiting the recent tragic suicide of his friend and colleague. Posts that follow heap insult on injury.

Those of us capable of empathy see the unfair attack on Willie as savage and full of hatred. (Perhaps you lack that function.)

Anyway, I suspect - and this is just a wild guess - that if it were your name in the OP, and you were being called a whore, and you were being accused of exploiting a friend's suicide to make money, that you'd be upset, that you would see the attacks as savage and full of hatred, and that you'd go crying to management like a little baby.

But I could be wrong...

Max

(This thread is so regressive I'm seeing a red shift.)
 
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More than Lehman Brothers

Could someone kindly explain why there is such a savage hatred of William Rodriguez?

(Is it because he's Jewish?)


Because he lies about 9/11 to make money.


he wants compensation for his 'truth"


Doesn't JREF make money off of 9/11?

Doesn't Hardfire sell nifty little trickets?

Isn't the military-industrial complex's Iraq-division making money off of 9/11?


I'm still curious how much money you think Willie has made - for himself - between 09/11/01 and 09/11/08.
 
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How can Rodriguez tell apart a bomb explosion from a jumbo jet crashing into a building, when he was never before in any of those circumstances?


Ms. Pardalis

Ms. Pardalis!

Can you turn off the hair-dryer
and put down the Sheeple Magazine?



Whew.....thank you.....


Um, Ms. Pardalis, if you remember:

Willie was in the tower during the 1993 bombing.
 
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If more came forward corroborating the story, would you give the story more credence, or simply find more ways to dismiss it?

The number of people makes no difference. No one doubts that they think they thought a blast came from beneath them. If 1 million people made the same claim, it still would not make it true. Thinking a blast came from below is one thing. Claiming it was a bomb requires proof.

Someone having been employed during a bombing does not constitute evidence of a bomb.
 
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Wrong. Either his claims are true or false--what other option is there? Either you have good evidence to support the charge that they are true, or good evidence to support the charge that they are false--what other option is there? If you have no evidence in support of the charge that they are false, then the only rational position is to admit you don't know whether his claims are false--what other option is there?

You're refuting your own argument with your final sentence. Since you have no evidence in support of the claims, your only rational position is to admit that you don't know whether the claims are entirely true, entirely false, or partly true, nor do you know whether any false claims are due to being mistaken or due to deliberate lying. As usual, though, for a conspiracy theorist, you're trying to simplify at least seven distinct possibilities (entirely true; partly true, partly deliberately false; partly true, partly mistaken; partly true, partly deliberately false, partly mistaken; entirely deliberately false; partly deliberately false, partly mistaken; entirely mistaken) to the false binary choice that Rodriguez's account is either entirely true, or entirely false.

Moving on from the basics, two important points are that (1) Rodriguez's claim rests on his having known at the time a piece of information he could not possibly have known at the time, namely the moment of impact of the plane, and (2) Rodriguez has changed his account repeatedly. From (2) alone, it is impossible that all his accounts are entirely true, therefore all but one must be at least partly false. Claiming that any single one is necessarily the true one is the special pleading fallacy.

Dave
 
Mr. Rodriguez was banned from JREF, and yet management is happy to allow this thread about him that he can't respond to.


Incorrect. William Rodriguez requested that his account be set to unregistered status. When you look at his profile, it is labeled "Guest" rather than "Suspended" or "Banned".

He could certainly reactivate his account and respond if he so wished.
 
LashL,


Those of us capable of empathy see the unfair attack on Willie as savage and full of hatred. (Perhaps you lack that function.)


(This thread is so regressive I'm seeing a red shift.)

Accusing someone of being a sociopath?

You're reported my son.
 

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