AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[Turbofan]

Exactly what would you expect anyone here to do? We're not the ones with the extraordinary claims. We aren't the ones claiming 'inside job'. You are the one who needs to be doing something.

You can claim you have experts 'working behind the scenes' all you want, but the lack of progress convincing the world you have rock-solid evidence of evil doing suggests it may not be as rock solid as you let on to be.

Lack of progress as you suggest, is only your opinion.

I would expect people here calling us 'crack jobs' to look at some of the
latest events and tie them together with the history of 9/11.

 

[SDC]

Latest events... Care to explain?

 

[Turbofan]

FAA, NoC? Corrections to R. Mackey's calculatoins?

 

[funk de fino]

Hurricane Ike was an inside job

The path was south of corpus cristi and there are triple corroborated witness to that fact

 

[Myriad]

No. Your arithmetic is incorrect. It's covered, disected and put to rest in the
presentation complete with a reference diagram.

PFT also has detailed and updated figures using scale analysis which further
supports their research.

Fair enough. Show me this presentation you're referring to.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Turbofan]

You are a terrorist apologist making up lies about Flight 77. You have no evidence and you can't understand simple math as evident by 11.2 G error made by your p4t group of terrorist apologist. Look like your imaginary government loyalist opposition is not to be found, but there is knowledge on physics used to destroy your delusional quest to apologize for terrorist when you say the aircraft found in the Pentagon was not Flight 77.

DME errors, and storage resolution make your p4t delusional quest false again as you and p4t sell implications of lies, ones which you actually make.

You have failed to address the fact FDR stops over 6 seconds prior to impact at the Pentagon. You have taken the bait on the animation of an aircraft impacting the Pentagon, possible from the FAA made days after 9/11. Good luck using hearsay and false information to make you feel good about apologizing for terrorist and blaming other people for the act of 19 terrorist. Very nice to have someone who has zero knowledge on flying try to make up lies and twist reality to make fantasy due to lack of knowledge on math, physics, and flying.



How will you debate AS when you can't get 256 w/s correct and have no clue why 11.2 G is bogus physics? You can't model DME accuracy.

Right...FAA, NTSB and PFT have it all wrong? I guess the FAA are a bunch
of crackpots too?

Did you get your copy of the latest presentations which show your errors and poor math skills? The 11.2G has been updated as well.

 

[fitzgibbon]

Turbo,

Once again, if you really have this earth-shattering proof, why would you waste even a second in a forum where you are clearly not making even the slightest dent? If this evidence is as compelling as you'd have a casual observer believe, then it must be presented to the media of the world who must, by extension, recognise its inherent truth and value and give it the attention and distribution it so richly deserves.

 

[Turbofan]

I'm just here to visit with my buddies and spread the word.

Why don't you ask yourself why the FAA and NTSB animation isn't getting
MSM coverage even though it contradicts the OGCT?

 

[twinstead]

Ah, so the FAA is on board now as well. When shall we see the imminent press conference when the FAA states there is some new and compelling evidence that has come to light and therefore they must call for a new investigation into 911?

 

[DavidJames]

Why don't you ask yourself why the FAA and NTSB animation isn't getting MSM coverage even though it contradicts the OGCT?

I did, the answer came back because the MSM aren't mentally ill and delusional.

 

[Turbofan]

Ah, so the FAA is on board now as well. When shall we see the imminent press conference when the FAA states there is some new and compelling evidence that has come to light and therefore they must call for a new investigation into 911?

That would be nice however i'd like to know more about this FAA video and
why it has suddenly appeared after 7+ years.

 

[Myriad]

No. Your arithmetic is incorrect. It's covered, disected and put to rest in the
presentation complete with a reference diagram.

PFT also has detailed and updated figures using scale analysis which further
supports their research.

No answer to my request to exhibit the counter-argument referred to; hence, so far this is assertion without argument.

Anyone can check my arithmetic, for instance here, and point out the errors.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Jonnyclueless]

It could only be boring for a government loyalist. I mean, Anit is claiming to
be the expert and "explain" the system without having documents and asking
PFT to supply diagrams!

Not only does he have incorrect information in his theory, he;s ASKING QUESTIONS
as opposed to explaining the FDR

I'd like to see a new thread started between Anti and myself using proper
information and references. You'll see very quickly that his summary is based
purely on assumptions.

P.S. If any of you 'researchers' care, you can buy ARINC documentation
on the web site.

Here;s a link to the site:

https://www.arinc.com/cf/store/catalog.cfm?prod_group_id=43&category_group_id=76

Maybe if you sell enough DVD's and aprons you can afford your own! LMAO!

It would only bhe unboring to a crackpot 9/11 cultist with a mental disorder and a low IQ who claims he and his other cult members are experts when they have absolutely no expertise what so ever and claim that people who do this stuff for a living don't have any expertise. Yes it goes down to great idiocy. You're starting to remind me of the crackpots over at PFT who couldn't figure their way out of a wet paper bag and can't even figure out basic mathematics.

Maybe if PFT put as much effort into their work as they do pretending they don't get everything wrong, then maybe they could produce something that is not laughable.

BTW kiddo, how'd your big demonstration on 9/11 go? Wasn't it supposed to be earth shattering? Where's all the fan fair? How many DVDs and swag did you guys sell with your marketing?

This really belongs in the humor section.

 

[fitzgibbon]

I'm just here to visit with my buddies and spread the word.

Why don't you ask yourself why the FAA and NTSB animation isn't getting MSM coverage even though it contradicts the OGCT?

From even a cursory glance, it's pretty clear that "buddies" is a poor choice of words in description of those here who don't see eye-to-eye with your worldview. And clearly the "word" (such as it is) is being spread back into your lap.

As for the animations, perhaps YOU have an explanation as to why you aren't being inundated with media coverage? And WTF's "OGCT"? Something to do with Grand Central Terminal?

 

[Turbofan]

I have a few buddies here, and whether some agree with me or not, there
are certain JREF members who are somewhat respectful when debating with
me (and other PFT members).

OGCT = Official Government Conspiracy Theory

 

[Anti-sophist]

BTW, I just sent Anti a PM about starting a new thread to debate FDR's.

Let's see if he accepts. I have some new info to share with everyone

Yes. An interesting PM. Challenging me to a conversation using "the facts" and "documentation". Because up till now, apparently, you've been doing what? Talking out of your ass? I find it hilarious that you are demanding a new thread so you can present your evidence. What in hell have you been doing for the last 30 pages then? Why do we need a new thread for you to finally prove a single ignorant word out of your mouth?

Because you want attention. Mostly. I'm not in the business of giving people attention. I'm interested in the truth. And the truth has been a settled matter for 30 pages, by my count.

My only requirement for discussing this issue with anyone is intellectual honesty. You've spent 30 pages reveling in your own personal ignorance, saying things that would get you laughed at by junior engineers, and demanding attention and respect, deserving neither. You are not intellectually honest. You've done nothing, said nothing, nor proven nothing. All you've done is personally attack me (and others), repeat claims that are proven false, and ignore all evidence presented in front of you that proven, beyond any shadow of objective doubt, that things you are claiming are not only wrong but inconsistent with the laws of physics.

You've also become increasingly obvious in your JDX-isms. I'm not sure if you are the same person as him, or if you are just letting him use your account. I'd suggest not doing that, however, before you get banned as a sock puppet.

Feel free to post your new data. I'll read it when I read it. If I feel like it. And if it's compelling enough to deserve a response, you'll get it. I won't get my hopes up, though, you clowns have been making absurd false promises like this for years now. At best, you'll just misread something, like you've done 100x before. It's what happens when highly arrogant and highly ignorant people try to do things they are simply ill-equipped to do.

 

[JimBenArm]

Hmm. Why does this seem just like Lyte Trip's big EARTH-SHATTERING EVIDENCE announcement?
Probably just as believable. Yeah. I can hardly contain my excitement. Woo-hoo.

 

[Turbofan]

Yes. An interesting PM. Challenging me to a conversation using "the facts" and "documentation". Because up till now, apparently, you've been doing what? Talking out of your ass?

Apparently not, however it seems like you might be?

Can you please post YOUR OWN diagrams, links and references to the
T4-T5 timing that you "CLAIM" is part of the equation?

According to my sources and document, you made up all of that junk.

Once again, please clarify:

is the 500 msec 'delay' included per frame, or whenever convenient to make
your theory work?

 

[Anti-sophist]

Can you please post YOUR OWN diagrams, links and references to the
T4-T5 timing

I have no interest in repeating things I said 30 pages ago. Especially to you. The guy I've explained it to in a half a dozen different ways and whom I'm fairly sure has absolutely no idea what is going and has absolutely no desire to figure it out.

According to my sources and document, you made up all of that junk.

Unless your sources also claim the laws of physics don't exist, I seriously doubt that. Nothing, in the real world, happens with t=0. Sorry. The most likely source of the error occurs between the piece of paper, your brain.

 

[Turbofan]

I have no interest in repeating things I said 30 pages ago. Especially to you. The guy I've explained it to in a half a dozen different ways and whom I'm fairly sure has absolutely no idea what is going and has absolutely no desire to figure it out.

YOu have explained nothing. YOu have no interest in debating, or showing
your diagrams because you have NOTHING.

I don't see a diagram, or document in 58 pages showing me T4-T5 timing?

Where is this so called timing you want to add to T1-T3?

The only diagram you have was provided by UnderTow and you took your
pretty little red text with some fantasy terminology and uploaded it here.

I'd like to see your original ARINC document that shows T4-T5 timing!

Come on Anti, show all your friends that you're actually quoting a source
and not making this up?