The Real Big Election... Canada!

Jimbo07 said:
I've heard him speak. His ideas in English are okay. Ignatieff did not appeal to the Quebec vote, so Dion was chosen... Problem is... in the country at large, English is the dominant language.
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I actually think his English sucks even more than Chrétien's (whose French also sucked, it was like he spoke a third language). If I was in your shoes I would hate that.

I remember when Sheila Copps spoke in French at a convention one time, she said: "Vos voeux sont appréciés" (Your wishes are welcomed), but the way she said it sounded like: "Vos veaux sont après chier" (Your veals are defecating).

So I understand your resentment. :D
 
Pardalis said:
I remember when Sheila Copps spoke in French at a convention one time, she said: "Vos voeux sont appréciés" (Your wishes are welcomed), but the way she said it sounded like: "Vos veaux sont après chier" (Your veals are defecating).

So I understand your resentment. :D
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She couldn't have been as bad as John Crosbie when he was studying French so he could run for the PC leadership.
 
Pardalis said:
I actually think his English sucks even more than Chrétien's (whose French also sucked, it was like he spoke a third language). If I was in your shoes I would hate that.
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How does Dion come across in French? (One of the big regrets I have in life is I never learned enough French to even carry on a conversation, and at my age I'm not sure I want to make the investment now.) Since I assume his accent is not an issue there, does he sound like (for example) an intellectual, as opposed to, say, a charismatic leader?
 
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So if we can't slander your Queen, who can we slander? I'm trying to remember who is the Canadian chief of state as opposed to PM... Is it her, uhm, she?

I'm just not aware of what are the great big issues in Canada now. No referendum in Quebec, no Meese Lake (?) accords. What are you guys up to? When I lived in Michigan there was more news -- believe it or not. Frequently about the auto industry. Since I've actually spent a fair amount of time in Ontario I'm a little embarrassed not to be better informed nowadays; spent a university term in Toronto, and went back and forth the border quite a bit for a while (from Detroit up to the Bluewater Bridge).

Things just seem quiet ... too quiet. Well, wait till President Palin, the Pistol-Packin' Prez, comes barrelling across the border shooting wolves and bears out of the presidential helicopter.

ETA: I may as well admit that I am probably the Yank to whom Jimbo7 refers as discouraging Canadian comments on US elections. I think I developed an allergy lo, many years ago, at the Univ of Toronto. It was 1970 (! how did I get this old?) and I got weary of otherwise sophisticated grad students pontificating about how Spiro Agnew was planning a military coup d'etat against Nixon. These same students, meanwhile, explained to me that there were no difficulties with the French-Canadians. None at all. Nope. Only trivial disagreements. In fact, not really any disagreements at all. Nosiree. That was a lesson to me that people in other countries than my own were just as capable of being damned silly as anyone back home.
 
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Oliver said:
Why do you Canadians elect within 2 Months? - Where is all the fun
without years of bashing each other? :(
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... because our party leaders have all been selected by their parties some time ago. Our parties do hold leadership conventions, but they are not done as months-long primaries immediately before the election season. In short, the leaders have already spent time bashing each other!

RandFan said:
Because they are not evil Americans.
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Wasn't there a discussion about this, where somehow Canadians were called Americans by Europeans because of the continent moniker? :boggled:

Oliver said:
I doubt that
you're able to answer that question as a non-Canadian citizen... :boxedin:
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Anybody who cares can go to cbc.ca It has all the civics lessons you'll need, plus the latest NHL scores! :D

Pardalis said:
So I understand your resentment. :D
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It's not the language I resent, it's the poor leadership choice and the need for him to be a strong communicator in the rest of the country. It's good to know that I'm not just paranoid about English Canada, but that some in Québec dislike him as well! :D
 
FFed said:
As much as I hate to, I think I will be voting Conservative. They are the least distasteful to me right now. Here is BC I already have a carbon tax, and getting another one is not something I would look forward to.
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Oddly enough, I may vote Liberal for the second time in my life mainly on this issue. I'm in BC too, but am in favour of the carbon tax, (it's "promised" to be revenue neutral, - income tax is reduced by the same amount - we'll have to watch them on that). That means you can actually save money on other's bad habits, if you reduce your energy use. Enjoy it.

Global warming is real, and it's high time someone had the balls to go after it in this country. Gas is the new cigarette, it's about time we put a sin tax on it. It took a lot of guts and actual leadership to propose it, (let's see if they can keep from back-peddling).

All that Harper has to offer for a better future is lowering diesel tax - "drill baby, drill"
 
Oliver said:
Why do you Canadians elect within 2 Months? - Where is all the fun without years of bashing each other? :(
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Unlike the US, Canadian politicians, including the leaders of all the major parties, spend some time each session in a little ritual we like to call "Question Period", which is pretty much nothing but them bashing each other.

It can get so nasty, that GWB wimped out on addressing Parliament the last time he was here, for fear of being heckled.


That, and a short election cycle called on a moment's notice really focuses their insanity. I've been out of the country all week, what's the story with the puffins?!?
 
I've actually started voting based on my local representive. I know that generally they vote as a block with the party, but I feel move entitled to send a nasty letter to my representive if I looked at their platform/website.

SDC said:
So if we can't slander your Queen, who can we slander? I'm trying to remember who is the Canadian chief of state as opposed to PM... Is it her, uhm, she?
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That would be the governor general, her representive.

Walt
 
Horatius said:
Unlike the US, Canadian politicians, including the leaders of all the major parties, spend some time each session in a little ritual we like to call "Question Period", which is pretty much nothing but them bashing each other.
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Well, it's the same over here - but why don't they publish all that nasty
stuff in a huge Media-Entertainment Political War between the liberal and
the conservative Media?
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Where's the fun if your elections are as boring as our elections over here? :(
 
Jimbo07 said:
Wasn't there a discussion about this, where somehow Canadians were called Americans by Europeans because of the continent moniker? :boggled:
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:)

It's ok. We call Native Americans Indian.
Inuit Eskimos.
Zie Deutsch German.
Irish Drunks.

What's wrong with Canadians being American?
 
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Oh hell!

I just know that I'm going to regret that in the morning. I think I'll change my sig. Don't post while drinking.
 
RandFan said:
What's wrong with Canadians being American?
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They're North American.

American, by itself with no locational modifier, by common usage refers to citizens of the United States of America. I'm not sure why some folks elsewhere have issue with this distinction.
 
Oliver said:
Well, it's the same over here - but why don't they publish all that nasty
stuff in a huge Media-Entertainment Political War between the liberal and
the conservative Media? [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/images/smilies/popc%5B1%5D.gif[/qimg]

Where's the fun if your elections are as boring as our elections over here? :(
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They do publish some of it.

But to be clear, Canada doesn't have "liberal and conservative Media". By US standards, we have "Commie and slightly less Commie media".
 
RandFan said:
:rolleyes:

Oh hell!

I just know that I'm going to regret that in the morning. I think I'll change my sig. Don't post while drinking.
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Come now. If Sir John A. could govern Canada while drinking, surely we can post about Canada while drinking!
 
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