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so who wants to talk bout wally miller anyways?
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DGM
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Dom:
How did the passengers of flight 93 get on the airplane that you suggest crashed there? There was not enough time to transfer them in the time the plane was off radar. You must be able to explain this. Right? Were their remains trucked in and planted without anyone noticing. Please explain these inconvenient details.
How did the passengers of flight 93 get on the airplane that you suggest crashed there? There was not enough time to transfer them in the time the plane was off radar. You must be able to explain this. Right? Were their remains trucked in and planted without anyone noticing. Please explain these inconvenient details.
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Are we back to the claim that a handful of witnesses have accounts which vary in some detail from the accepted flightpath of a plane on 9/11?
Pomeroo made a post about that a month back. You spent enough time deliberately misinterpreting it that I think you might remember it.
Eyewitness testimony can vary. It happens all the time. Accounts can also chang eover time, as people remember (or think they remember) new details.
It doesn't make them liars.
It does make their testimony less accurate.
Either way, you still have to weigh a handful of witnesses against the sheer volume of physical evidence, other eyewitness testimony, and tracking data.
Guess which one wins? I'll give you a hint: Humans are fallbile.
Pomeroo made a post about that a month back. You spent enough time deliberately misinterpreting it that I think you might remember it.
Eyewitness testimony can vary. It happens all the time. Accounts can also chang eover time, as people remember (or think they remember) new details.
It doesn't make them liars.
It does make their testimony less accurate.
Either way, you still have to weigh a handful of witnesses against the sheer volume of physical evidence, other eyewitness testimony, and tracking data.
Guess which one wins? I'll give you a hint: Humans are fallbile.
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YES you do.
EYEWITNESS Testimony is NOT reliable. As have been STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
Can your eyewitnesses describe the EXACT attire they wore that day, down the earring/ring/shoes and socks they wore?
If they can't even remember what they wore exactly that day, what makes you think they can remember exactly what they saw that day?
the good people of shanksville probably do not appreciate you twisting their claims to support your theories, when I bet all of them believe that flight 93 WENT DOWN in their fair city.
You should be hurting for all the people stomping over you.
all I can think of is the drone flying under the wire in your video; lol
so now you support the official story... cool
when did you gain knowledge?
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who and how am i twisting someone's claims?
where am i using anyone's words to claim a plane didn't crash there?
i'm not a shanksville no planer. i wish you guys would stop lying and attributing this shanksville no plane ******** to me. im getting really sick of it.
its plainly obvious what you are trying to do. discredit me when one by one lemmings continue repeating what they see even when they know its wrong and keep claiming i am a no planer.
THE NEXT PERSON WHO ACCUSES ME OR ATTRIBUTES FAKE QUOTES TO ME TRYING TO DECEIVE PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING I AM A SHANKSVILLE NO PLANER GOES ON IGNORE PERMANENTLY.
a bunch of people making up lies and attributing them to me isn't exactly "stomping".
in fact, its the only thing they can do because none of them can counter or duh-bunk any of my claims.
WALLY MILLER IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PLANES IMPACT. IT IS CORROBORATED BY THE WITNESSES I NAMED IN EARLIER POSTS.
duh-bunk it duh-bunkers.....................
dudalb
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Wow, what a terrible threat.
Dom, you are the boy who cried wolf too many times.
Now I see a video which mentions sites of lies and false information. But the video proves 93 impacted in one piece at Shanksville. The video proves the FDR is correct, or visa versa.
The impact pattern was exactly what you get with a 600 mph impact. Human remains at 50 feet. Part spewed for 1200 feet, how will you twist the facts; you are trying to do it the video.
How will you twist his testimony? The winds blew paper, but where are you big parts found miles away; fantasy.
Jet fuel! No cordite for you truth benders.
Found dead people at 50 feet under ground; debunks every single truther terrorist apologist. Section of an engine (not a complete engine as truthers lie about) 1200 feet away, a piece of engine at impact moving at 880 feet per second landed by the pond in less that 2 seconds. Biggest piece 1200 feet away.
Miller debunks a shoot down, and every single thing all truther made up! Great video proving 9/11 truth completely wrong.
He has files for each person! Each dead person tracked by Miller, as 9/11 truth makes up lies.
All the hijackers are identified, too bad no one comes forward to get their murdering kin. Will you can twist that? What twisted ideas will you and 9/11 truth make with this video?
BTW, if you were a trained accident investigator, all the false ideas you have supported and posted would not have been made. This video debunks the stuff you have spewed. Good job.
Now I see a video which mentions sites of lies and false information. But the video proves 93 impacted in one piece at Shanksville. The video proves the FDR is correct, or visa versa.
The impact pattern was exactly what you get with a 600 mph impact. Human remains at 50 feet. Part spewed for 1200 feet, how will you twist the facts; you are trying to do it the video.
How will you twist his testimony? The winds blew paper, but where are you big parts found miles away; fantasy.
Jet fuel! No cordite for you truth benders.
Found dead people at 50 feet under ground; debunks every single truther terrorist apologist. Section of an engine (not a complete engine as truthers lie about) 1200 feet away, a piece of engine at impact moving at 880 feet per second landed by the pond in less that 2 seconds. Biggest piece 1200 feet away.
Miller debunks a shoot down, and every single thing all truther made up! Great video proving 9/11 truth completely wrong.
He has files for each person! Each dead person tracked by Miller, as 9/11 truth makes up lies.
All the hijackers are identified, too bad no one comes forward to get their murdering kin. Will you can twist that? What twisted ideas will you and 9/11 truth make with this video?
BTW, if you were a trained accident investigator, all the false ideas you have supported and posted would not have been made. This video debunks the stuff you have spewed. Good job.
TJM
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That's what I took away from the video; It's nearly as destructive to 9/11 truth as anything I've seen on this forum. Kudos to Wally Miller for keeping a (relatively) cool head. There were a few times when he should've smacked someone and didn't, but you could tell that he really wanted to.
oh so the fdr shows a plane approaching from the northeast flying southwest and impacting right wing tip first into the ground?
wally said there was "no depth" to where human remains were. did you hear that loud and clear?
it was asked specifically.
so again you are lying that human remains were recovered 50 feet deep.
there was also not a single photograph taken of any human remain inside the impact zone. zero documentation done.
paper that you believe survived a massive jet fuel explosion that incinerated airplane debris and human beings.
not paper debris which exited the plane after the intercept began thousands of feet above impact.
wally miller insists there was a pool of jet fuel in the crater.
he has a picture showing a pool of liquid inside the crater.
he says the tempature of the explosion wasn't high enough to ignite the jet fuel.
but there is not a drop of liquid inside the crater when it was photographed by mark stahl minutes after it was created before anyone other than a couple locals and stoystown fire department were on the scene.
yes stoystown was the first ones there not those liars in shanksville and i'll tell them that because there is photographic evidence and eyewitnesses in shanksville that will tell them that too.
who wally?
where did he say he found dead people anywhere let alone 50 feet underground?
by contradicting the impact and the angle it arrived from?
by moving indian lake to the southwest so it can be in the direction of the blast trajectory?
by saying he never received a flight manifest and then saying he used the flight manifest to identify the passengers?
by not mocking or disputing the shoot down theory?
by saying the plane crashed allegedly due to a struggle on board and later on openly admitting he doesn't know what really caused the plane to come down. but he must not be open to the shoot down notion, huh?
500-600 yards is not 1200 feet liar.
the largest piece of debris recovered from the entire site and it was recovered 1500-1800 feet ahead of the crash site. why do you continue to lie and type a smaller number that you pulled out of thin air?
no he doesn't. he doesn't want to discuss a shoot down. he acknowledges he really doesn't know what caused the plane to come down and says it was "allegedly" due to a struggle on board.
talk about taking someone's words and distorting them and twisting them to support an agenda. wow........
lets talk about that plane approaching from the northeast and impacting right wing tip first some more and how that matches the evidence and the fdr data, shall we?
yes thats what he said.
but i couldn't see them because convienantly enough those are stored off site unlike the hundreds of photographs he took of the scene and inside the dmort lab.
no hijacker was identified.
dna profiles were created of people who didnt match the other passengers. this doesn't prove their identities at all so again you lie.
i do believe there were hijackers on board but you're still lying.
you hear what you want to hear and twist it and lie in hopes that no one else will watch the video and see that everything i state is true and therefor everything you state has to be a lie.
i don't twist or distort a single thing wally miller said.
you however are.
all the way down to lying and changing distances to make things seem a little more supportive of your fairy tale.............
TC the Pond is 1200 feet from the impact. He said at the pond.
BTW, Wally says "a section of an engine", it was in your video. The engine bounce to the pond, this is why it was a section. OOPS.
Twister, Dom is. All your ideas on 9/11 are still wrong, Wally puts your ideas down, slam dunk!
A real investigator (like me) can view Wally's statements, and it prove no shoot down, and 93 impacted as one plane, not parts. You really need to go to school on this, you are terrible interpreting witness statements. Want me to get the address of the school now?; they have actual crash scene built from real accidents parts. It would cure your ignorance on aircraft accident investigation instantly TC.
Miller supports FDR. FDR not faked, TC statements are wrong! This is funny, Miller shoots down all that TC spews, but TC does not know it. This is very funny, I can't believe it. But then I remember the drone flying under the wires and it all makes sense…
If TC was smart, he would hide the Miller video, it proves all he spews wrong. Too late, I have a copy. Darn…
When has 9/11 truth not debunked themselves when they gather actually testimony or evidence, or make up statements. TC, your video debunks you.
Oops, pond is 1200 feet, that is 400 yards, and 500 to 600 yards is what he said, but he said, in this pond! I say 400 yards is very close to estimate of 500 to 600 yards. Oops, you twist stuff just to be wrong, or what? BTW, the other end of the pond is 500 yards. BINGO
BTW, Wally says "a section of an engine", it was in your video. The engine bounce to the pond, this is why it was a section. OOPS.
Twister, Dom is. All your ideas on 9/11 are still wrong, Wally puts your ideas down, slam dunk!
A real investigator (like me) can view Wally's statements, and it prove no shoot down, and 93 impacted as one plane, not parts. You really need to go to school on this, you are terrible interpreting witness statements. Want me to get the address of the school now?; they have actual crash scene built from real accidents parts. It would cure your ignorance on aircraft accident investigation instantly TC.
Miller supports FDR. FDR not faked, TC statements are wrong! This is funny, Miller shoots down all that TC spews, but TC does not know it. This is very funny, I can't believe it. But then I remember the drone flying under the wires and it all makes sense…
If TC was smart, he would hide the Miller video, it proves all he spews wrong. Too late, I have a copy. Darn…
When has 9/11 truth not debunked themselves when they gather actually testimony or evidence, or make up statements. TC, your video debunks you.
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WildCat
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It's not even that far if Google Earth is reasonably accurate:
Note the burned trees southeast of the crash site.
What else do you lie about TC?
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Sure, let's talk about that. How does a plane coming from the northeast leave a debris trail going from northwest to southeast?
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Do you ever envision a future for yourself wherein no one debates the probability of whether a certain plane hit a certain building?
I only ask because I actually took the time to worry about you.
The airplane was upside down, when the FDR shows as 93 hits the ground the plane is rolled to the right 142 degrees. The aircraft pitch was –41.1 degrees, one reason most of the plane was in the impact crater for 50 feet, people and parts as told by Wally. Cool, you video breaks all your lies.
The speed at impact 487.5 KIAS! FAST
The heading at impact was 187 degrees (MAGNETIC), for 8 second 93 was out of the northeast by north by north. But before that the aircraft was from the northwest and west.
At 10:03:02, heading 178.9, 182.8, 183.5, 183.9, 184.2, 184.9, 186, 187 at 10:03:09. OMG, 93 was out of the north and 7 degrees out of the east. But that is like north. This is all magnetic, do you understand that?
Right bank 142, would make the right wing hit first, did you mean to confirm the FDR?
Miller makes all your ideas on 9/11 melt into fantasyland.
FDR matches TC northeast (albeit 38 degree shy, from real northeast mag), and right wing hits first;
FDR confirmed by TC; outstanding
In 2001, 187 degree magnetic is 179 degree true. So on google, never was 93 to the northeast, it was always north, and actually one degree west of north, TRUE NORTH. Irony.
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Don't worry, I'm about to open a bottle of wine to enjoy w/ the g/f.
It only took 5 minutes to look up the site on google earth, find a picture of the site after the crash, and thoroughly debunk our little truther friend who apparently isn't so good with a compass.
