Sarah Palin!

Skeptic Guy said:
I was watching her introducing her family at the RNC and I have to say that was only half listening while I was doing something else, but I was confused whether the little baby one of her daughters were holding was hers or her daughters. Not saying it was her daughter's, but the way she presented her and the name she called it left me unsure.

Maybe that's where they got the idea.
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That's Palin's child, born in April. It's a Downs Syndrome baby.

The "Why is Chelsea so ugly?...." joke is false. Aside from that, this Republican thinks Chelsea Clinton is pretty, and very smart. She will be a political force if she chooses.
 
Come with me to yesteryear, speaking of vice presidential candidates. In the summer of 1968, I was driving the parental car through backwoods Pennsylvania in order to deliver some stuff to my older sister, who was at Cornell U. for the summer. Listening to the news. I heard that "Spiro Agnew" had been chosen as Nixon's VP candidate, and almost went off the road in shock and surprise.

I grew up right outside Baltimore. Ted Agnew (as we all knew him) was a Republican Balamer ... Sorry, Baltimore County Exec, and then Maryland governator, winning only because of feuds within the Democratic machine and was a shoo-in to get diselected at the earliest opportunity. Nixon chose him I gather because he figured 1/ white eastern suburban vote, 2/ Agnew was as vocally nasty as one could be, and happy to take the heat (as long as he could then accept all bribes, which is why he left office a few years later.) Oh also there was an idea of an ethnic vote, though his preference for "Ted Agnew" over "Spiro" (his father had changed the family name from Anagostopolous, I think) suggests that Ted himself wouldn't be comfortable.

I wonder whether any Alaskans feel this way, today.
 
Cicero said:
About 5 million of the 18 million who voted for Hillary, whom Bill Clinton outrageously proclaimed at the convention as definitely voting for Obama, will most likely now vote McCain.
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Would they be so shallow to vote for a woman diametrically opposed to their political views purely because she is a woman?
 
Tricky said:
I hadn't heard that. Is it documented that McCain said that? If so, it could neutralize any benefit he gets from choosing Palin. Frankly, I'm skeptical. He's a politician. He knows better than to make sexist jokes.
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It wasn't recorded, but many newspapers reported it and, IIRC, McCain actually apologized to the Clintons about it.

He does have a nasty temper.
 
Palin's appeal to Hillary voters is surface only. It's actually almost insulting to them, expecting them to move to McCain just because Palin is a woman. Is it about a trophy or about advancing issues that matter to women?
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"Trophy" being a key word there. Trophy wife, trophy running mate.

...and we are talking about older women who are well aware that in a world of Nancy Kassebaums and Olympia Snowes, the pretty young ones seem to be favored by older men. If Clinton supporters are enthused by a pro-lifer creationist, I gotta wonder what made them support Clinton in the first place.

IMHO, it seems patronizing, but I do not profess to understand disaffected Clinton supporters.
 
Nogbad said:
Would they be so shallow to vote for a woman diametrically opposed to their political views purely because she is a woman?
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If my colleagues (4 women, 50s ish) are representative of the rest of women hillary voters, they are extremely insulted and would never vote for McCain. However, McCain's only chance of getting their vote would have been to adopt a lot of the DNC platform.
 
Now if this doesn't get her the VP spot, I don't know what does!

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I don't know, this may get the CCs the kid on the bottom left may be Devil's spawn, he has red eyes. ;)
 
ksbluesfan said:
I would have been happier if McCain would have picked Giuliani, but I still think Palin hurts McCain. How many Hillary supporters are going to vote for McCain/Palin, considering she's pro-life and a creationist? The only thing this does is make history and prevent Biden from being mean to her. Not that Biden is hurt by this. He doesn't have to say a single word to her or about her to win a debate.
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Don't be so sure. Expectations for her performance will be so low that all she'll have to do in a debate is hold her own halfway, and be declared a "success". This is where being a Washington novice -- and a woman, -- helps.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Wake up call:

How is her being a governor of a state inexperience at the executive level?

Bill Clinton was a governor of a low rent state, did that make him unable to be a president?

DR
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Yes, Bill Clinton was inexperienced and yet went on to become the best President of our time (of my time, at least - 5 decades or so). I'm glad you agree. I think you'll also agree that Clinton's decade of being governor and multiple re-elections trumps Palin's less than two years and only one election.

But, just because one unknown longshot wins the Kentucky Derby each century, that doesn't mean betting on the longshot on each race is an intelligent move.
 
Mark6 said:
Don't be so sure. Expectations for her performance will be so low that all she'll have to do in a debate is hold her own halfway, and be declared a "success". This is where being a Washington novice -- and a woman, -- helps.
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Lowering expectations is how George Bush won the debates with Al Gore. He started off by saying "Golly gee whiz, I sure I do against such a smart feller" and then, when he didn't look like a complete idiot, he was declared the 'winner'.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Lowering expectations is how George Bush won the debates with Al Gore. He started off by saying "Golly gee whiz, I sure I do against such a smart feller" and then, when he didn't look like a complete idiot, he was declared the 'winner'.
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You may not like it, but it is still true -- and will hurt Biden as much as it hurt Gore in 2000.
 
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