The FBI Has No Record of Any Evidence of the 4 Flights Used on 9/11

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RedIbis,

As I have mentioned elsewhere, the US military's joint publication on military deception informs us that there are two broad classes of deception:

1) Ambiguity-enhancing deception, where the goal is to confuse and muddle the deception targets;

2) Ambiguity-reducing deception, where the goal is to render the deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong.

With respect to the planes' identities, everyone sure seem certain and decisive.

Max
 
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Another nut ball claim debunked. It's amazing people still fall for this kind of stuff at 911blogger.
 
Max Photon said:
As I have mentioned elsewhere, the US military's joint publication on military deception informs us that there are two broad classes of deception:

1) Ambiguity-enhancing deception, where the goal is to confuse and muddle the deception targets;

2) Ambiguity-reducing deception, where the goal is to render the deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong.
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Surprisingly, most of Max Photon's posts appear to fall into one or other of these categories too.

Dave
 
RedIbis said:
Since this is at the heart of the issue, let me just express how absolutely absurd it is that the so called skeptics can so easily accept this. The identity of the aircraft was not in question so there was no need to investigate the flights?

Add this to the list of destroyed steel, destroyed FAA tapes, and now the FBI doesn't even make copies of its source records. How is any terrorist associated with the planning of the attacks ever going to get convicted in trial?
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We destroy everything that could prove us wrong and the proof of it is in our destruction of the proof. Prove me wrong.
 
tsig said:
Yep hundreds of dna tests and thousands of witnesses are just "Pure, unsubstantiated speculation"
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yes but don't forget, unless the actual DNA is displayed to the truther to look at and examine himself in REAL LIFE, it is all just fabricated.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
yes but don't forget, unless the actual DNA is displayed to the truther to look at and examine himself in REAL LIFE, it is all just fabricated.

TAM:)
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Then someone would have to inject the ifo required to understand it otherwise it's just squiggles on paper.

I think a baseball bat would be the proper method of injection.
 
RedIbis said:
Since this is at the heart of the issue, let me just express how absolutely absurd it is that the so called skeptics can so easily accept this. The identity of the aircraft was not in question so there was no need to investigate the flights?

Add this to the list of destroyed steel, destroyed FAA tapes, and now the FBI doesn't even make copies of its source records. How is any terrorist associated with the planning of the attacks ever going to get convicted in trial?
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Having made a monumental wanquaire of yourself with the OP, the smart move would have been just to blush quietly to yourself and go to ground for a few weeks.
 
Max: Mold and Mildec

Max Photon said:
RedIbis,

As I have mentioned elsewhere, the US military's joint publication on military deception informs us that there are two broad classes of deception:

1) Ambiguity-enhancing deception, where the goal is to confuse and muddle the deception targets;

2) Ambiguity-reducing deception, where the goal is to render the deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong.

With respect to the planes' identities, everyone sure seem certain and decisive.

Max
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Max, still ambiguous with mildec tactics.
 
Max Photon said:
RedIbis,

As I have mentioned elsewhere, the US military's joint publication on military deception informs us that there are two broad classes of deception:

1) Ambiguity-enhancing deception, where the goal is to confuse and muddle the deception targets;

2) Ambiguity-reducing deception, where the goal is to render the deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong.

With respect to the planes' identities, everyone sure seem certain and decisive.

Max
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Well, it's obvious that they started with a conclusion and worked from there. Therefore, they didn't need proof or evidence substantiating the identies of the flights.

Good to see you posting again, Max.
 
RedIbis said:
Well, it's obvious that they started with a conclusion and worked from there.
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To be precise, a conclusion based on such irrefutable evidence that you're not even going to try to debate it.

Therefore, they didn't need proof or evidence substantiating the identies of the flights.
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Hello ... it is the proof and evidence that makes us certain of the identities of the flights.

Hello ... Earth to Truther ...
 
Dr Adequate said:
To be precise, a conclusion based on such irrefutable evidence that you're not even going to try to debate it.

Hello ... it is the proof and evidence that makes us certain of the identities of the flights.

Hello ... Earth to Truther ...
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This irrefutable evidence that no one, including the FBI can locate?
 
Red I., just come out and declare yourself a no-planer, OK? Show that much courage. Chastise someone besides Silverstein and Myers. Please provide an actual narrative. To continue to do otherwise suggests cowardice on your part.

Actually, didn't you once say you had your own blog somewhere? Where is it?
 
SDC said:
Red I., just come out and declare yourself a no-planer, OK? Show that much courage. Chastise someone besides Silverstein and Myers. Please provide an actual narrative. To continue to do otherwise suggests cowardice on your part.

Actually, didn't you once say you had your own blog somewhere? Where is it?
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You're thinking of someone else. I don't have a blog. A no planer, as I understand it, does not believe that planes hit the towers. That's not me.
 
RedIbis said:
You're thinking of someone else. I don't have a blog. A no planer, as I understand it, does not believe that planes hit the towers. That's not me.
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OK, my memory is wrong. Not the first nor last time.

You evidently believe the planes have not been adequately identified. Do you mean that you think those were other planes? Or some of them -- including 77 and 93 as well as the ones in NYC -- were different planes?

That may not be "no planing." It's "whoops, other planing."
 
RedIbis said:
Since this is at the heart of the issue, let me just express how absolutely absurd it is that the so called skeptics can so easily accept this. The identity of the aircraft was not in question so there was no need to investigate the flights?
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I think as someone pointed out that the ancillary investigations into the events of 9/11 supported the assumption as to the identity of the aircraft.

Lets say say you are investigating a car crash. Someone reports that a 57 Chevy was car jacked by an rather drunk Irish hooligan and his friends Barny and Willma were in the car as hostages. There are police officers who reported seeing a speeding 57 Chevy with a drunk Irishman and two other people in the car. Later some people see a 57 chevy with two men and a woman slam into a police station.

You go to investigate the crash scene and you see parts of a 57 chevy littered about the lawn a big hole in the wall and you find the remains of two men and a woman who fit the descriptions and have the identifications which say Tom O'leary, Barny Gumbal, and Wilma Flintstone.

What would be your assumption as to the identity of the car?


Of course at this point you would have some one yelling about as to why nobody tried to identify the chevy using serial numbers to confirm that this was the actualy chevy that was reported stolen despite the fact that O'Leary, Barny and Wilma were found at the scene.

There would also be a video out on Youtube explaining how 13 witnesses saw the chevy drive into the police station from the north side of the 7/11 and not actually crash into the building but instead swerve out of the way just as some explosives went off to hide the fact that the chevy actuall drove off to a Pizza Hut in Solsalito.
 
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RedIbis said:
Pure, unsubstantiated speculation.
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So if the FBI presented documentation of serial numbers and so forth, you would believe it?

You wouldn't say "Well. they had plenty of time to have faked the numbers".
 
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