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Did Michael Phelps win medal 7?

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On August 15th a corporately-owned athlete by the name of Michael Phelps participated in a 100-meter Butterfly finals race at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. He was heavy favorite to win this race, despite losing the same race in qualifying session against someone who is, in an ignorant world we live in today, commonly refered to as "some guy", but who in the world of competitive swimming is actually the "big fish" by the name of Milorad Cavic. The world's media attention turned toward Phelps expecting him to tie Mark Spitz' 36-year-old record. But, as it turned out, Michael Phelps did not start this race as expected. At the 50-meter mark he was only 7th out of 8th participants. Milorad Cavic led the race from start to finish, including at the 50-meter mark. Toward the end of the race, it appeared that Phelps closed on Cavic's lead, but still could not manage to beat him. The eyes of all the spectators in the aquatic center in Beijing, as well as those millions around the world, clearly saw that Milorad Cavic has won the race. Televised replays from all the different angles, including the one from underwater cameras, clearly showed that Cavic was the fist one to touch the wall. Television replays also showed Michael Phelps' coach Bob Bowman disappointedly muttering: "He's got him." (meaning that Cavic beat Phelps). Phelps' own mother sitting in the audience in all her confusion raised two fingers in the air as if accepting that her son came in second. Even Phelps himself, in the fist couple of seconds after the finish, appeared to be subdued knowing/believing that he lost the race. But, something happened there, and the official timekeeper of the event OMEGA showed that Phelps supposedly won by 0.01 of a second. That is 100th part of one second, and the lowest margin of difference allowed in the official swimming contests...

...How is it that the official timekeeper of the event is the same company that sponsors Phelps since 2004? Isn't there a clear conflict of interest here?
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I found this site and thought of it as total crap. Any thoughts? Did Phelps win the race? Were his hands at the wall before Cavic's? Is there a corporate conspiracy that gave Phelps the medal because we all thought we saw Cavic touch the wall first?

Perhaps George Bush is in on it too...

EDIT: Wow, didn't notice that there is a section for only 9/11 conspiracy theories. I've been gone quite awhile. Please feel free to move.
 
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You may want to PM a mod. That is the only way to ensure that "they" move this thread.
 
I don't know how healthy it would be for anyone to try and fix the Olympics in China so an American beats a Serbian, but that's just me.
 
This may not belong in the 9/11 Conspiracy subforum, but it certainly displays classic Truther logic. I love how audience reactions are cited as evidence of who won, because who better to distinguish the winner of a race by 1/100th of a second than someone fifty feet away?

And speaking as a former competitive swimmer, in a race that close you have absolutely no idea who out-touched who until the times are posted, so Phelps' reaction isn't proof of much either.

Finally, the geniuses at that website are going to need to explain why no one else has looked at the replay video and come to the same conclusions they have. Including the guy who came in second.
 
johnny karate said:
This may not belong in the 9/11 Conspiracy subforum, but it certainly displays classic Truther logic. I love how audience reactions are cited as evidence of who won, because who better to distinguish the winner of a race by 1/100th of a second than someone fifty feet away?

And speaking as a former competitive swimmer, in a race that close you have absolutely no idea who out-touched who until the times are posted, so Phelps' reaction isn't proof of much either.

Finally, the geniuses at that website are going to need to explain why no one else has looked at the replay video and come to the same conclusions they have. Including the guy who came in second.
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You might be on to something here; How is it possible that not just one but TWO swimmers arrive at the (nearly) same time in the same pool without the aid of some type of underwater apparatus that was clearly designed to to lead the viewer into believing that what he saw was an extremely close finish when in actually they were holographic swimmers and the real swimmers were taken to Waterworld USA and disposed of down the Banzai water slide. Michael Phelps is an inside job and you fools are just too bloody stupid to see past your noses, it all a plot by the Chinese joos who have cornered the market on pastrami and brisket and refuse to sell anything to the NYC delis until until Israel and the Mossad starts taking truthers out immediately. Demand an investigation!

Thank you.
 
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Drudgewire said:
I don't know how healthy it would be for anyone to try and fix the Olympics in China so an American beats a Serbian, but that's just me.
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Sounds like sour grapes to me. The author of the website should show the next couple frames in that photo montage.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0808/oly.phelps.sequence/content.5.html

The Serbians themselves conceded after reviewing the tape.
I also looked at his link, there is nothing that says both hands have to touch "the pad" simultaneously.
 
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I'm surprised no-one has claimed Phelps swam at "near freestyle speed".
 
AJM8125 said:
Haven't you been *wap*'ed enough today?
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Hey, give a punster a little slack. I was internet-less for five days. (running water-less too, but that seemed to bother my fellow vacationers more than me)
 
Garb said:
http://100thofasecond.com/

I found this site and thought of it as total crap. Any thoughts? Did Phelps win the race? Were his hands at the wall before Cavic's? Is there a corporate conspiracy that gave Phelps the medal because we all thought we saw Cavic touch the wall first?

Perhaps George Bush is in on it too...

EDIT: Wow, didn't notice that there is a section for only 9/11 conspiracy theories. I've been gone quite awhile. Please feel free to move.
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This would have been a good thread if you wouldnt of ruined it by putting in the old 9/11 crap. Why?
 
It's funny that the issue is dismissed without any actually bothering to look into the facts.

Olympic swimming finishes are determined by electronic pads which are activated by the force of the swimming hitting the wall. Judges do not determine who does or does not win. Neither do time keepers. It's all automatic.

The problem with this is of course that electronics can fail, but more importantly, a pressure sensitive pad will only be activated by sufficient pressure.

Milorad Cavic was gliding when he touched, with little in the way of forward momentum in his hands.

Michael Phelps was at the beginning of a stroke, with much more forward momentum in his hands.

It's quite possible that Cavic completed the race a moment sooner, but had insufficient force to trigger the sensor at his initial touch.

None of this involves a conspiracy by the time keepers, or some nefarious sponsor deception. The notion is ridiculous.

The winner of a swimming race is determined by who triggers their sensor first, not by who reaches the wall first. Michael Phelps won.
 
This is yet more evidence that some people seem to want to see conspiracies anywhere and everywhere they look.
 
gumboot said:
Milorad Cavic was gliding when he touched, with little in the way of forward momentum in his hands.

Michael Phelps was at the beginning of a stroke, with much more forward momentum in his hands.
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And this is why, even if they did fix the race, the other guy deserved to lose - he stopped swimming!

In the final few feet of the final race to win the gold, he glides to the finish? He had the win, and let it go because he decided he didn't need to try anymore? Screw him!
 
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It's quite possible that Cavic completed the race a moment sooner, but had insufficient force to trigger the sensor at his initial touch.
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Although, since the underwater camera stills include a photograph in which Phelps is touching the pad and Cavic has his arms outstretched and hasn't reached it yet, it seems unlikely.

Dave
 
Horatius said:
And this is why, even if they did fix the race, the other guy deserved to lose - he stopped swimming!
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It looked to me like Cavic was a half-stroke away from the wall when he stopped swimming - had he taken another stroke, his hands wouldn't have been in front of him to touch the wall. Phelps, on the other hand, had just enough space left to take one more stroke, and that propelled him to win.
 
If this was in the age before we had high tech equipment to determine the winner when it was this close, we might have had a debate. But since all the high tech evidence ..indluding frame by frame examination of the final seconds of the race shows that Phelps won, this theory can be safely classifed as just another crackpot theory.
 
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