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Truthers at the JREF, learned anything yet?

Pardalis

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Some truthers have been posting and debating here for months, some even a year or two (RedIbis comes to mind). They've had their ideas and claims thoroughly discussed, sometimes in excruciating detail and repetitively so.

So, I'm wondering out of curiosity, has anything changed your mind? Is there one thing about 9/11 that you now feel has been debunked to your satisfaction? What did you learn so far?
 
Is there one thing about 9/11 that you now feel has been debunked to your satisfaction?

yes the official theory.
 
The scary part is that these people will one day have to function in society somehow...
 
Dictator Cheney said:
Is there one thing about 9/11 that you now feel has been debunked to your satisfaction?

yes the official theory.
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A dishonest answer to start, what a surprise.

I mean seriously. Has anything, even small, changed in your views about 9/11 since you first got here?
 
sometimes it is interesting. i learn, that there may be other explanations, too. in rare cases, you really manage to "debunk". Often you just work with semantic tricks or insults.
 
Pardalis said:
A dishonest answer to start, what a surprise.

I mean seriously. Has anything, even small, changed in your views about 9/11 since you first got here?
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yes, some things i saw as a strong indication for a conspiracy / cover up, i dont see as indications anymore, but in overall. i still belive in a CD of the tower and oc WTC7, im still agnostic about flight 77, but im still sure we didnt get presented the real impact place of flight 93.

i still belive Cheney played a major criminal roles in the atack.
 
Pardalis said:
Such as?

This is the point of the thread, you can't just say "some things". What?
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just resently, the cuts of the remaining steel columns.

and i underestimated the damage of WTC7 (while this improved my oppinion about WTC7 to be a CD)
 
dtugg said:
So you believe theories that have, even according to you, zero evidence supporting them. At least you are honest about it. But how do you think that makes you look?
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i dont care how it makes me look :)

is there anything you belive without having hard evidence?
 
I've learned that logical reasoning skills and moral integrity are even less commonly combined within one person than I previously thought.
 
One off topic split to AAH, another to a new CT thread. Please try to address the topic defined in the OP.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
 
chillzero said:
One off topic split to AAH, another to a new CT thread. Please try to address the topic defined in the OP.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
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:hbd2:
 
Alex Libman said:
I've learned that logical reasoning skills and moral integrity are even less commonly combined within one person than I previously thought.
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I've learned there are a lot more paranoid people and trolls than I ever imagined possible.
 
I've learned that coming to a conclusion, then looking for evidence that supports that conclusion and ignoring all the evidence that contradicts that conclusion is common to fanatics in all their various forms: the fundamentalist, the conspiracy theorist, the racist bigot...
 
Pardalis said:
Some truthers have been posting and debating here for months, some even a year or two (RedIbis comes to mind). They've had their ideas and claims thoroughly discussed, sometimes in excruciating detail and repetitively so.

So, I'm wondering out of curiosity, has anything changed your mind? Is there one thing about 9/11 that you now feel has been debunked to your satisfaction? What did you learn so far?
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Since I don't believe in no-planes, space beams, or a Jewish conspiracy, jref debunking hasn't changed my perspective much if at all from when I first started posting here.

What I have learned is that debunking is not the same as honest research. Debunking is the strategy of diminishing your opponent's argument by a variety of methods that don't necessarily enlighten.

With or without jref anyone researching 9/11 in depth will learn that official explanations and investigations are often incomplete or inaccurate. This forum won't change that.
 
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