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The north side evidence validated to the point of redundancy

you haven't explained what knocked those light poles down because not a single eyewitness saw it happen.


I'll explain it for you. A big plane knocked down those light poles.

Let's pretend that nobody did see it happen. Tell us why your imaginary conspiracy neglected to instruct some of its witnesses to claim that they saw it. Must be like the WMD they "forgot" to plant in Iraq, right? Just kind of slipped their minds.


U R debunked. [Edited for civility].


Yes, you have certainly been debunked many times. Your stupid fantasy is quite dead.
 
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I ask the liars this question repeatedly without ever getting a coherent response. I will have no better luck this time around.

Survivors of the Titantic disagreed over the manner of the ship's sinking. Some said it broke in half; others said it went straight down. All of them watched the scene--the most important event of their lives--unfold from nearby lifeboats.

Were the survivors whose memories were incorrect lying about something? Did they prove that the ship didn't sink at all? Please address this matter. What's going on here?
 
There has to be a point where logical rational individuals choose to accept evidence rather than deny it.

How much validation will it take before you accept this evidence?

The north side evidence is not a theory. It is what all the witnesses unanimously report.

The number of north side witness accounts has now increased to 13 and the critical independently confirmed flyover witness account of Roosevelt Roberts Jr. has now been released.

View evidence here.
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In light of this new evidence the true critical thinkers in this forum will be left with a choice. You can join Caustic Logic as the sole individual willing to accuse the witnesses of being operatives sent out to deliberately lie while taking part in a vast disinfo conspiracy to incorrectly demonstrate the official story false……or you can accept the undeniable implications of this clearly fatal contradiction to the official 9/11 narrative and join the true skeptics, CIT, in their quest to uncover this military deception and expose the fraudulent permanent global war on terror.

TLB,

You certainly are persistent, I'll give you that. You believe what you believe, and you stick to your guns, nothing wrong with that in my book. But you have to realize that there are people out there who disagree with you, and are just as steadfast and adamant in their beliefs as you. For me, I base my beliefs on knowledge that you are not privvy to. My point of reference is different than yours. Other people's way of seeing things, and interpreting the events of that day are unique to them as well. You don't get to just assign labels and catergorize people with terms like "You can join Caustic Logic" or "join the true skeptics, CIT". It's not A or B, it's not black or white. This is a complex subject, and as such, people come to believe what they do for a myriad of different reasons. Have you ever considered the possibility that you are not going to change the minds of skeptics here, and that you should just agree that we disagree?
 
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Can the C.I.T. explain this? Looks like airplane to me...

pentagon_damage.jpg
 
Wildcat,
if you are suggesting that the top of that tree was severed due to a plane, then you are agreeing with all of the witnesses in placing the plane high above the ground as opposed to low and level. This is inconsistent with the physical damage and consistent with a flyover.
 
you haven't explained what knocked those light poles down because not a single eyewitness saw it happen.

*AHEM*

Father Stephen McGraw was driving to a graveside service at Arlington National Cemetery the morning of Sept. 11, when he mistakenly took the Pentagon exit onto Washington Boulevard, putting him in a position to witness American Airlines Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon. "The traffic was very slow moving, and at one point just about at a standstill," said McGraw, a Catholic priest at St. Anthony Parish in Falls Church. "I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars." McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon. "The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. "I saw it crash into the building," he said. "My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression," he said. "There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows. "He literally had the stole in one hand and a prayer book in the other and in one fluid motion crossed the guardrail," said Mark Faram, a reporter from the Navy Times who witnessed McGraw in the first moments after the crash.


U R bedunked and OMGWTFPWNED!!!!!111ONE1ROFLMAO

This must be very embarrassing for you. :(
 
Wildcat,
if you are suggesting that the top of that tree was severed due to a plane, then you are agreeing with all of the witnesses in placing the plane high above the ground as opposed to low and level. This is inconsistent with the physical damage and consistent with a flyover.


Not. Those trees are about the same height as the light poles and there is such a thing as steep dive, which is quite likely what Hanjour did.
 
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I'll explain it for you. A big plane knocked down those light poles.

proof?

Let's pretend that nobody did see it happen.

we're not pretending. the only pretending goin on is you and the lemmings pretending the plane knocked down light poles and caused the damage to the pentagon while approaching over the navy annex on the NoC. thats all the pretending i see goin on.

Must be like the WMD they "forgot" to plant in Iraq, right? Just kind of slipped their minds.

ohhhhhh! i thought if we mentioned anything about bushco other than 9/11 it had to go to the politics forums???

so was bushco telling the truth when they said the patriot act wouldn't be used improperly?

were they telling the truth when they said saddam had wmd's?

were they telling the truth when they said torture was 1 isolated incident that happened at abu ghraib?

were they telling the truth about pat tillman?

jessica lynch?

about secret cia prisons in europe not existing?

about secret prison boats not existing?

how about not sleeping until we had osama bin laden "dead or alive"?

how about all those times?

do you need more examples of your shining leader in all of his glory lying to you because he thinks you are a ****ing idiot?
 
you haven't explained what knocked those light poles down because not a single eyewitness saw it happen.

U R debunked. [Edited for civility].
This guy sees the lamppost hit by 77. Darn you are batting ZERO, there are others.
Rodney Washington (400 feet from the lamppost, facing the Pentagon!)
Rodney Washington, a systems engineer for a Pentagon contractor, was stuck in stand-still traffic a few hundred yards from the Pentagon when the American Airlines jet roared overhead from the southwest. ''It was extremely loud, as you can imagine, a plane that size, it was deafening,'' Washington said. The plane was flying low and rapidly descended, Washington said, knocking over light poles before hitting the ground on a helicopter pad just in front of the Pentagon and essentially bouncing into it. It ''landed there and the momentum took it into the Pentagon,'' Washington said. ''There was a very, very brief delay and then it exploded.'' Washington speculated that it could have been worse: ''If it had kept altitude a little bit higher it probably would have landed in the middle of the Pentagon, in that court.'' (the delay, the time it takes sound to travel! Wow)

This is a CIT witness that kills their no impact by 77. The meaning of "watched it hit the building"
Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "… I just watched it hit the building." "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."
... debunked 100 percent since 2001. No clue, no rational ideas, just hearsay and conclusion of fantasy. Little airplanes fling under wires, and stupid statements to round out really bad, failed witness interpretations.

Failure. If not for a few DVD sales to real dumb people.
 
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you haven't explained what knocked those light poles down because not a single eyewitness saw it happen.


Even if you were correct...you're not, but if you were...just because it wasn't witnessed does not mean it did not happen.


U R debunked. [Edited for civility].


Great. More high school mentality from truthers. Whood-a-thunk?
 
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*AHEM*

Father Stephen McGraw was driving to a graveside service at Arlington National Cemetery the morning of Sept. 11, when he mistakenly took the Pentagon exit onto Washington Boulevard, putting him in a position to witness American Airlines Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon. "The traffic was very slow moving, and at one point just about at a standstill," said McGraw, a Catholic priest at St. Anthony Parish in Falls Church. "I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars." McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon. "The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. "I saw it crash into the building," he said. "My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression," he said. "There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows. "He literally had the stole in one hand and a prayer book in the other and in one fluid motion crossed the guardrail," said Mark Faram, a reporter from the Navy Times who witnessed McGraw in the first moments after the crash.


U R bedunked and OMGWTFPWNED!!!!!111ONE1ROFLMAO

This must be very embarrassing for you. :(

yeah this is gonna hurt you way more than it hurts me....

U R bedunked and OMGWTFPWNED!!!!!111ONE1ROFLMAO

This must be very embarrassing for you.

[Edited for civility]

Violation of Rule 12: Attack the argument, not the arguer.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady
 
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we're not pretending. the only pretending goin on is you and the lemmings pretending the plane knocked down light poles and caused the damage to the pentagon while approaching over the navy annex on the NoC. thats all the pretending i see goin on.



<snip, pointless political rant >

do you need more examples of your shining leader in all of his glory lying to you because he thinks you are a ****ing idiot?

Actually it wasn't Bush who told anybody that flight77 hit the lamp posts, I am led to believe that people who were there said so.

BTW, have any of the people who were there on that day said they saw anybody planting damaged lamp posts? Anybody come forward at all,claiming involvment in planting any physical evidence of any sort ?

OR did Bush and the nasty MIB tell them to keep quiet, also?
 
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Wildcat,
if you are suggesting that the top of that tree was severed due to a plane, then you are agreeing with all of the witnesses in placing the plane high above the ground as opposed to low and level. This is inconsistent with the physical damage and consistent with a flyover.
Are you suggesting that in the "official story" the plane goes under the bridge? Burrows into the ground, reappears, and then hits the Pentagon?

Where do you get this stuff?
 
What was in that video that you wanted me to see?

Father McGraw confirms that the plane hit the lamp post.
 

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