Christopher7
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Correct, metal does not have to be a liquid to be called molten.I think you should look at the web definitions for molten:
mol·ten (mltn)
v. Archaic
A past participle of melt.
adj.
1. Made liquid by heat; melted: molten lead.
2. Made by melting and casting in a mold.
3. Brilliantly glowing, from or as if from intense heat
Are you calling him a liar?I told you this before, Fuchek was in area and not working with the recovery of debris.
Really? Source?If the beam were not totally melted then the liquid portions and the solids would be in thermal equilibrium... the beam would come apart like putty..
You do not know what the conditions were.
PleaseIt is also unclear to what degree of metallurgy he is knowledgeable in.
Anyone can recognize molten metal, it doesn't require a knowledge of metallurgy.
[FONT="]"I saw [/FONT]melting of girders[FONT="] in World Trade Center[/FONT][FONT="]." said the first structural engineer given access to the WTC steel.[/FONT]
Not specific? Get serious.I already commented on this:
Marginally interesting, but not very specific on the molten steel claims.
He stated that the steel melted, so why are you trying to deny that?
IrrelivantMore than anything, the article describes that the collapse of the bridge, that is, the failure mode of the steel was similar to that of the trade centers
[FONT="]"I talked to many contractors and they said they actually saw [/FONT]molten metal[FONT="] trapped, beams had just totally had been melted because of the heat." said Chaplain Herb Trimpe[/FONT]
No, read the whole sentence.key word: metal
Aluminum is a metal, iron is a metal, steel is a metal, lead is a metal... the account is not specific about the classification... Molten aluminum or lead would be unsurprising in the temperatures reported from the debris pile, but not molten steel or iron, although steel would be glowing cherry red at some of the recorded temperatures.
Beams are made if steel!
Your half baked attempts to deny these clear statements that confirm the existence of molten steel only serve to prove your inability to accept anything that undermines the Cheney/Bush conspiracy theory.