Coffins ready-made for FEMA deathcamps. Debunking help please.

[Zorglub]

No, your writing skills are fine. ~enigma~ does this sort of thing all time: he misunderstands someone, attacks that person, then finds other reasons to continue attacking after that person has clarified their position in a manner that most people would find reasonable.

Thanks,I´m glad to hear that. I was scratching my head wondering if my understanding of in the english langauge had hit rock bottom or perhaps you all, last night, had changed the meaning of every word without letting the rest of the world know. That was how it felt.
I guess it´s karma, after all I have pushed a twoofer or two around when discussing 9/11. Guess I got some of my own medicine

 

[~enigma~]

well, partially that hes talking about a whole new set of "coffins" now

and of course the fact that someone asking for help is still allowed to think for himself and reach his own conclusions

Never said he couldn't...but I will say that asking for debunking help and then claiming to have all the answers (manufacturer, make, etc...) is not coming to conclusions it is JAQing off just like some truthers do when they come here.

 

[Zorglub]

Never said he couldn't...but I will say that asking for debunking help and then claiming to have all the answers (manufacturer, make, etc...) is not coming to conclusions it is JAQing off just like some truthers do when they come here.

No you didn´t deliberatley say that I couldn´t ask any questions. Your behaviour though says something completely different. For some unknown reason you decided to twist some of the things I wrote and ignoring the rest. Actually, you showed off some typical truther behavior in the way you cherry-picked my words. Apparently your reading comprehension and my written language is a bad match.

You asked for a manufacturer of coffins resembling the pictures I´ve posted before. I was under the impression that I had posted this link before, but apparently this wasn´t the case. An iPod Touch is a wonderful piece of machinery, but it is a b**ch using when posting long posts on forums. And you can´t copy+paste.
Here is one manufacturer of coffins.
http://www.polyguardvaults.com/
Feel free to interpret this as me defending Alex Jones or whatever you choose to do this time.

 

[Horatius]

Never said he couldn't...but I will say that asking for debunking help and then claiming to have all the answers (manufacturer, make, etc...) is not coming to conclusions it is JAQing off just like some truthers do when they come here.

You do realize there was some time between those two events, right? Are you implying that it is impossible for someone to have learned something in between asking a question, and posting the answer?

You asked for a manufacturer of coffins resembling the pictures I´ve posted before. I was under the impression that I had posted this link before, but apparently this wasn´t the case. An iPod Touch is a wonderful piece of machinery, but it is a b**ch using when posting long posts on forums. And you can´t copy+paste.
Here is one manufacturer of coffins.
http://www.polyguardvaults.com/
Feel free to interpret this as me defending Alex Jones or whatever you choose to do this time.

Part of the problem here is you have to be more careful of your terminology. Those things aren't coffins, they're coffin vaults - a related product, but not the same thing.

Of course, knowing what they are is only the first step - we still don't seem to know who owns them, or why they're there, unless I've missed something.

 

[~enigma~]

You do realize there was some time between those two events, right? Are you implying that it is impossible for someone to have learned something in between asking a question, and posting the answer?

Yeah...not enough for him to make such a ludicrous conclusion without any proof whatsoever.

Part of the problem here is you have to be more careful of your terminology. Those things aren't coffins, they're coffin vaults - a related product, but not the same thing.

That may be but the "evidence" put forth on ATS is shaky at best. If you look at the pictures of the "vaults" and the pictures of the vaults they are supposed to be you will see a difference. Again I will bring up that it is a plumbing company at that address in Georgia. They deal with septic tanks and liners. That is a more plausible scenario than a 3x3x7 plastic coffin or even a "vault" in an accessible area that one can walk into since it isn't even enclosed. Some people see conspiracies everywhere.

Of course, knowing what they are is only the first step - we still don't seem to know who owns them, or why they're there, unless I've missed something.

You didn't. We don't know the manufacturer and that is why I think the subject of this thread has not been entirely honest when he claims to "know" what the objects are AND to know who manufactured them.

ETA - I have personally received deliveries in my hospital in plastic containers that come very close in size. Anybody ever consider these could just be shipping containers?

 

[Zorglub]

Part of the problem here is you have to be more careful of your terminology. Those things aren't coffins, they're coffin vaults - a related product, but not the same thing.

My bad. I will of course henceforth refer to them as coffin vaults, wich of course is what they are. It was sloppy of me to be so unprecise.

Of course, knowing what they are is only the first step - we still don't seem to know who owns them, or why they're there, unless I've missed something.

Nope, I´ve found no real evidence. The words among truthers (or is "truther" a name for someone who belives 9/11 was an inside job? I tend to call all people who believes in NWO, death camps a s o "truthers") is that the land is rented by FEMA and has been since 2002.
IF the pictures we´ve seen shows coffin vaults (see, I can learn too )they´re there for some reason. And I´m perfectly sure there is a legit reason without any woo.

 

[~enigma~]

My bad. I will of course henceforth refer to them as coffin vaults, wich of course is what they are. It was sloppy of me to be so unprecise.

IF the pictures we´ve seen shows coffin vaults

Cute....suppose nobody was supposed to notice that you will call them coffin vaults yet you still claim your undecided? Riiight...

the land is rented by FEMA and has been since 2002.

The land on lion's club Road (the address your speaking about) is rented by a plumbing company, has a plastics manufacturer and a church right next door. You have let the ATS woo get under your skin.

 

[Zorglub]

Cute....suppose nobody was supposed to notice that you will call them coffin vaults yet you still claim your undecided?

I got the advice to ignore you, perhaps that is a good idea.
But, no...I kinda like your twooferish way of debating.
Cherry-pick this:
1. I claim nothing. I cannot, since I do not know the real answer.
2. I´ve found something that has a close resemblance to coffin vaults.
3. I do not know what they are or why they´re there.
4. Neither do you know the reasons for these coffin-vaults. Othwerwise you would have marvelled us all with your knowledge. Right?

Riiight...The land on lion's club Road (the address your speaking about) is rented by a plumbing company, has a plastics manufacturer and a church right next door. You have let the ATS woo get under your skin.

Now that was outright clumsy and a, I´m sure, deliberate way to twist my words. The whole scentence, wich you forgot to quote, was
The words among truthers (or is "truther" a name for someone who belives 9/11 was an inside job? I tend to call all people who believes in NWO, death camps a s o "truthers") is that the land is rented by FEMA and has been since 2002
See there´s a whole lot of other words in front of those very words you quote-mined.

 

[~enigma~]

1. I claim nothing. I cannot, since I do not know the real answer.

OK but..

4. Neither do you know the reasons for these coffin-vaults.

you aren't decided?

2. I´ve found something that has a close resemblance to coffin vaults.

Ok...they resemble and that I agree with.

3. I do not know what they are or why they´re there.

Then explain your statement in #4?

You buy the entire line of ATS woo hook, line and sinker. Just admit it. There is no shame in being wrong.

 

[Zorglub]

<snip>

Well, if you read my points in order (1, 2, 3 a s o) you would have noticed that I in "2" stated my uncertanity. I forgot that you gonna nit-pick everything I write. In point "4" I should have written "box-shaped things with a close resemblance to coffin-vaults."
Now as I´m sure you know what these boxed-shaped things with a close resemblance to coffin-vaults are now would be a good time to tell us.

You buy the entire line of ATS woo hook, line and sinker. Just admit it. There is no shame in being wrong.

I admitted before that I was wrong and you rejected that. So where´s the difference now? Did I admit the wrong kind of wrong?

 

[~enigma~]

Well, if you read my points in order (1, 2, 3 a s o) you would have noticed that I in "2" stated my uncertanity. I forgot that you gonna nit-pick everything I write. In point "4" I should have written "box-shaped things with a close resemblance to coffin-vaults."
Now as I´m sure you know what these boxed-shaped things with a close resemblance to coffin-vaults are now would be a good time to tell us.

And didn't I mention your #2...wait, let me check...yes i did. You express uncertainty then go and claim what you think they are anyway. That doesn't mean uncertainty.

I admitted before that I was wrong and you rejected that. So where´s the difference now? Did I admit the wrong kind of wrong?

No. You said you were wrong then turned around and said you know what they plastic boxes are anyway. Maybe you don't mean uncertain? If you really were uncertain you would not claim to "know" anything about these let alone so specific as to claim you know the manufacturer.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Again I will bring up that it is a plumbing company at that address in Georgia. They deal with septic tanks and liners.

how did you find that out? i tried fro some time to link a business to that address but came up empty

 

[GreNME]

Wait, are we still talking about the location in Ennis?

If so, holy mackerel, if it'll settle the nonsense I'll drive over to that address this weekend, take some pictures, and maybe even see if I can ask someone on the property what the storage is for. Jeez, it's not rocket surgery or anything. I've done the same thing at two alleged "FEMA camps" near Dallas.

 

[Zorglub]

And didn't I mention your #2...wait, let me check...yes i did. You express uncertainty then go and claim what you think they are anyway. That doesn't mean uncertainty.
No. You said you were wrong then turned around and said you know what they plastic boxes are anyway.

No, I said that I was wrong putting forth an idea about that perhaps there could be some reasons preparing for high losses of human life in another attack.
Hence my statement in this post:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3877831&postcount=56
my idea about that someone might have ordered coffins in case of a epidemic, disease etc was a plausible idea was infact very, very wrong. I was putting an idea to the test.
It didn´t hold up!
You do understand what is written above? Now, I can see that you enjoy being wrong. And I enjoy pointing out when you are wrong or just lying. We have a win-win you and I.

Maybe you don't mean uncertain? If you really were uncertain you would not claim to "know" anything about these let alone so specific as to claim you know the manufacturer.

And if you knew what these boxes, closely resembling coffin-vaults, are, i´m sure you would have told us by now.

Wait, are we still talking about the location in Ennis?

If so, holy mackerel, if it'll settle the nonsense I'll drive over to that address this weekend, take some pictures, and maybe even see if I can ask someone on the property what the storage is for. Jeez, it's not rocket surgery or anything. I've done the same thing at two alleged "FEMA camps" near Dallas.

Top of my head I think the pictures and snippet from the video whe are talking about right now is taken somewhere in Georgia. Not the links in my first post.
I´d stay clear of solving the problem by getting pictures if I where you (Even though it would be nice with better pictures than a satellite picture from Google Earth.) Enigma will probably accuse you of being my sidekick or something similary ridicilous.
Nonsense is a good description of the last few post. I assure you that my aim was nothing more than to get some bright minds together and solve a silly statement the twoofers has made.

 

[GreNME]

That's fine, but the best way to actually lay silly accusations like this to rest are to simply walk up to the place and check for yourself. This sort of wild fantasizing based on long-distance photography and incredible speculation is easy to correct by simply walking up and asking. It's not that difficult or dangerous or even revolutionary.

What I'm getting at is that the answers are usually very easy to get, the problem exists that conspiracy theories are more interested in clinging tenaciously to the questions at the expense of actual answers.

To reference my favorite Fark meme: usually it's just a street light.

 

[~enigma~]

how did you find that out? i tried fro some time to link a business to that address but came up empty

There is a video of the address on Lion Club Rd.

 

[~enigma~]

No, I said that I was wrong putting forth an idea about that perhaps there could be some reasons preparing for high losses of human life in another attack.
Hence my statement in this post:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3877831&postcount=56
my idea about that someone might have ordered coffins in case of a epidemic, disease etc was a plausible idea was infact very, very wrong. I was putting an idea to the test.
It didn´t hold up!
You do understand what is written above?

Of course I understand but you apparently don't otherwise you wouldn't say the following..

And if you knew what these boxes, closely resembling coffin-vaults, are, i´m sure you would have told us by now.

So we are back to square one with you insisting they are coffin-vaults.

Enigma will probably accuse you of being my sidekick or something similary ridicilous.

No...but now I will accuse you of being extremely juvenile for making that statement.

 

[Walter Bellhaven]

"These are coffins for you and your family. You're laughing now, but you'll believe me when they chop your head off."

-Alex Jones

 

[defaultdotxbe]

"These are coffins for you and your family. You're laughing now, but you'll believe me when they chop your head off."

-Alex Jones

its been mentioned already but its worth noting again, its highly doubtful any organization that plans to kill 90% of the worlds population will be giving any of them a proper burial with coffins, let alone coffin liners, lol

 

[NobbyNobbs]

Of course I understand but you apparently don't otherwise you wouldn't say the following..So we are back to square one with you insisting they are coffin-vaults.No...but now I will accuse you of being extremely juvenile for making that statement.

And here's what he actually said that caused your comment:

And if you knew what these boxes, closely resembling coffin-vaults, are, i´m sure you would have told us by now.

So please explain how "boxes closely resembling coffin vaults" equates to "insisting they are coffin vaults".

You are twisting words, and not very well.