Moderated Energy, Heat, Healing, Magnetic

[arthwollipot]

AstralWar, we don't much care what you say about what you have done before. What matters is what you can say you can do.

You haven't been at all clear on what you can do. You haven't provided us with any details, anything measurable, anything testable. I came up with several ideas in the other thread, but you apparently didn't like them. They didn't match up with what you say you can do (even though you once said that you could do anything). All we are trying to do is establish some way by which your claims can be conclusively demonstrated. You haven't been helpful in that regard. Don't you want the million dollars?

Finally: Your comment was edited by a moderator for a reason. That reason was explained to you. You have been given instructions on how to appeal that decision. The moderators have been more than reasonable in dealing with this. When you signed up to use the forum, you made an agreement to abide by the forum rules. When you break the rules, you are moderated. The rest of us have to deal with it, and so do you. If that upsets you, then I'm afraid that's tough.

So we ask again. What can you do? How can it be demonstrated?

 

[AstralWar]

Since there is absolutely no potential for there to be a glimmer of hope that anything at all could possibly come of this because the OP is totally ignorant of science, mathematics, physics, spelling, English composition, communication and basic logical thinking, I humbly request that this thread be given a mercy killing. After two pages of trying to get AstralWar to read the basic rules of the MDC, this last post of his shows that this particular war is lost.

I have used my MATH AND MIND performing a method of process and elimination from the begining. I put a lot of thought early on in it and it got my brain flowing and moving forward at times it did feel a bit still for me but I know that everyday i have took a step forward not a step backwards. there is no one that i have came across yet in nothing i have ever seen done or read that can do what i can with their hands and speed the healing process of a fracture that i have done. and it does not stop their we are now talkin about bacteria that can be airborne

I will still perform a few studys on my own and i will post them here and explain them and they worked and what i did

thank you all for your help

 

[arthwollipot]

AstralWar:

What can you do? How can it be demonstrated?

 

[Madalch]

So, are you saying that you can heal broken bones?

 

[arthwollipot]

And, I think, bacterial infections. But we mustn't put words in AstralWar's mouth. It's up to him to describe what he can and can't do.

 

[chillzero]

Off topic posts removed from thread. This thread, as with any in this section, should be kept strictly on topic to the MDC - and in this case, to a specific claim and defining it's protocol.

If that doesn't happen it will be combined with the thread in Paranormal, which is under Moderation status to keep it on topic.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero

Edit to add:
This thread has now been placed on moderated status due to this warning being ignored.

 

[Ravenwood]

So far, the easily testable claim was to heal fractures in seconds, but it would appear that as in the other thread, when forced to stay on topic & give concrete examples of what he can do, Astral war flees...I can see why Randi is ready to close the challenge. The only ones we seem to get that actually follow the rules are the truly deluded.

 

[Crundy]

If AW can cure bacterial infections, then what about having two covered petri dishes with a bacterial culture, and AW tries to kill the bacteria in one of the petri dishes by holding his/her* hands over it? Could do it with 4 control and 4 test dishes to get better degrees of freedom.

* AW, are you male or female? No offense, but your terminology and phrasing appears feminine to me.

 

[AstralWar]

He can move his hands without willing it

ETA: Now, to be more constructive, since AstralWar claims that his hands get heavier, and we can hardly measure the weight of his hands without cutting them off, he would have to stand on a weight, and if his hands get heavier, the weight of the entire body should climb too, unless, of course, AstralWar thinks that his head gets lighter

can it be measured for my weight to get lighter? It was not gravity cause the weight did not increase they seem to have gotten lighter as well as my body in a way. Can my body weigh lighter and decrease.


Also the shoes do have an effect they seem to be verry important everytime i have healed someone i had my shoes on. one time i was not wearing my shoes and i could not heal that person but instead caused pain. that could be a positive and negative effect right?

As to the paper i remember as a child in school i would always walk by classmates desks and going back to my seat papers would always fall without me touching them but my hand would come close to them. I always felt bad but noticed it only happend on one side not both.

 

[AstralWar]

If AW can cure bacterial infections, then what about having two covered petri dishes with a bacterial culture, and AW tries to kill the bacteria in one of the petri dishes by holding his/her* hands over it? Could do it with 4 control and 4 test dishes to get better degrees of freedom.

* AW, are you male or female? No offense, but your terminology and phrasing appears feminine to me.

How can i try this at home for a double blind test. and what would be a success. would the bacteria be affecting something or just by itself? and what kind of dishes would be used like the bacteria in water ina sterling silver bowl.

I am a Man. I say and do things and see things through my heart and not my Male Intellect;p)

 

[Mojo]

can it be measured for my weight to get lighter? It was not gravity cause the weight did not increase they seem to have gotten lighter as well as my body in a way. Can my body weigh lighter and decrease.

You now seem to be claiming that by using your powers you can make your body weight decrease.

I'm pretty certain that being able to alter your body weight at will (either by increasing or decreasing it) would be considered paranormal.

By how much can you decrease your weight, and for how long?

 

[Czarcasm]

can it be measured for my weight to get lighter? It was not gravity cause the weight did not increase they seem to have gotten lighter as well as my body in a way. Can my body weigh lighter and decrease.

Yes, we'll do it using something recently invented. It's called a "scale".

As to the paper i remember as a child in school i would always walk by classmates desks and going back to my seat papers would always fall without me touching them but my hand would come close to them. I always felt bad but noticed it only happend on one side not both.

This is due to an effect known in scientific circles as "wind". If you wave your hand swiftly over loose paper, you create "wind" that will move the paperwork.

 

[chillzero]

Astral War - pick one claim for discussion here, please.

 

[AstralWar]

Astral War - pick one claim for discussion here, please.

My claim has been picked it is called ElectroStatic Energy;p)

with this i can do many things. I just need to disscuss somethings. I just have not decided on what I will do for the test is all. There has been no one that has ever came on here and tried to disscuss their ability in all aspects. I try to disscuss it with science also. cause if i am just science then i dont need to do a test or challenge. I have disscussed a few things they all go together regarding my hands.

Everything i think of to do I also need to find a way to do before i do the challenge in a certain environment and scedule it not just be able to perform when needed.


When i said i can heal fractures and speed up the healing. if i could do this can i use things to help me do this?

or does it have to all be done by my body alone?

 

[steenkh]

can it be measured for my weight to get lighter? It was not gravity cause the weight did not increase they seem to have gotten lighter as well as my body in a way. Can my body weigh lighter and decrease.

If your body or hands only feel lighter, this ability is worthless for a test: they have to actually be lighter.

As for your electrostatic abilities, it seems that you do not really know what static electricity is. I think you should find somebody who could explain it to you, give you some practical examples. You should also also find a measuring device to test if you can affect static electricity.

If you do not test this yourself, you will flop at the real test. Do not just feel that you can influence static electricity: measure it, and you will be on your way to a million dollars, unless you are changing the static electricity through natural action.

 

[petre]

My claim has been picked it is called ElectroStatic Energy;p)

with this i can do many things. I just need to disscuss somethings. I just have not decided on what I will do for the test is all. There has been no one that has ever came on here and tried to disscuss their ability in all aspects. I try to disscuss it with science also. cause if i am just science then i dont need to do a test or challenge. I have disscussed a few things they all go together regarding my hands.

Everything i think of to do I also need to find a way to do before i do the challenge in a certain environment and scedule it not just be able to perform when needed.


When i said i can heal fractures and speed up the healing. if i could do this can i use things to help me do this?

or does it have to all be done by my body alone?

While I won't even pretend to speak for JREF, it should be fine to use whatever you wish so long as the result can still be deemed paranormal. Depending on what action you're performing, inspection of any props may be necessary to determine that they could not normally perform the act.

 

[tapman]

AstralWar, your posts are neither coherent nor do you seem to have understood the rules of the JREF Challenge.

Please describe clearly what you intend to do to make "sure this challenge gets put to an end".

Just because the guy has a hard time writing about his claimed ability doesn't mean we shouldn't help him.

He sounds dedicated, and honestly believes he has something. I would like to show him some respect by asking members that live close to him to meet with him, and help him "coherently" put his ideas and claims down on paper so he can be tested.

don't send him on a wild goose chase reading the challenge. He obviously needs a little help. If we are all dedicated to the truth here, someone please step up and give him a hand.

Good on you buddy.

 

[AstralWar]

You are welcome!


Does the effect disappear if you are not wearing shoes?

Why the shoes. what does it mean with shoes and without them in scientific terms. what about it being transfered from me to another person without touch?

If your body or hands only feel lighter, this ability is worthless for a test: they have to actually be lighter

they never really felt lighter cause of gravity keeps me on the ground;p) however i have felt that if there was no gravity keeping me on the ground i would fly.

If you do not test this yourself, you will flop at the real test. Do not just feel that you can influence static electricity: measure it, and you will be on your way to a million dollars, unless you are changing the static electricity through natural action.

what would be an example of natural action.

 

[AstralWar]

While I won't even pretend to speak for JREF, it should be fine to use whatever you wish so long as the result can still be deemed paranormal. Depending on what action you're performing, inspection of any props may be necessary to determine that they could not normally perform the act.

tyvm Petre. I was just askin cause it helps speed things up for me and who ever i am helping. when it comes to fractures and speeding up the process of them healing i perform this in less than 5 mins easy prob like 2 2 in a half mins more than likely. just 1 to 2 icecubes takin the time to melt and then about 25 seconds and im done. and all i pretty much do is the ice.

 

[fromdownunder]

Just because the guy has a hard time writing about his claimed ability doesn't mean we shouldn't help him.

He sounds dedicated, and honestly believes he has something. I would like to show him some respect by asking members that live close to him to meet with him, and help him "coherently" put his ideas and claims down on paper so he can be tested.

don't send him on a wild goose chase reading the challenge. He obviously needs a little help. If we are all dedicated to the truth here, someone please step up and give him a hand.

Good on you buddy.

The main problem here is that nobody, including him, appears to understand what his claimed ability is. It seems to change with every post he makes. And since even what he claims he can do cannot even be established, this does make helping him rather difficult.

Since you appear to wish to be of some help, perhaps you could provide advice as to what he should do. Many of the posts here have tried to tease out what his ability actually is. Perhaps a wonderfully sympathetic and honest person such as yourself will be more succesful in doing this, since you appear to have an empathy that most here lack.

Go for it, rather than just sit on the sidelines and cheer.

Norm