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Dawkins And Islam

Mojo said:
Route 666?
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Which one, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania or Florida? Each has a State Route 666. US Route 666 was renamed US Route 491 in 2003 after some people complained about living on the Satanic Highway.


Boo
 
Primus said:
Hows that then?
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Ignore him. SunniMan is our alledged-Muslim (there is no real way to tell) troll. If you are a masochist, pull of a up search under his handle and read his hate-filled little diatribes against homosexuals and other people who don't pass Islamic muster.
 
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Sunni Man said:
If you attack Islam, you will pay a price.
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Like all religions, Islam is filthy, bigoted creed held by superstitious barbarians to justify violence, racism, sexism, and other authoriatarian prejudices. "Allah" is a myth. The prophet Mohammad is, if he existed at all, was no better than the other human of his era and had contributed no real insights into the human condition or ethics.

There, send me the bill.
 
Pardalis said:
Sunni Man said:
Some people will pay in this life and some in the next. Allah will be the judge, not me.
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Since there is no after-life and no Allah, then we'll do just fine.
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It's the part where he implies that Islam has a right to punish people in this life that concerns me, in addition to how he indirectly conflates human judgment (in this life) with God's judgment. Factor this in with how he once argued that physical action, not counter-speech (as I had suggested) is necessary to deal with written or spoken attacks on Islam, and you've got as close an endorsement of violence as you can get without explicitly stating it.

Allah can't do anything, but his fundamentalist followers can cause a great deal of damage.
 
Back on to the topic of this thread please.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat
 
Sunni Man said:
Turn off your computer. Hop a flight to say Iran or Saudia Arabia and tell them your veiws. I am positive they will accomodate you!! :D
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I don't think anyone doubts that critics of Islam have less freedom in Saudi Arabia or Iran than deluded converts to islam enjoy in Texas.
 
Islamic Extremism, if you believe the figures, is booming in Britain at the moment.

The interesting fact about this Islamism -however- is that it is taken up by second/third generation Muslims, with their parents belonging to a relatively peaceful strain of Islam. What would have been fascinating -but unrelentingly tragic- would have been if those Liquid Bomb Plotters had carried out their attack on American planes over the Atlantic. Ten Britons killing all those thousands of people would certainly be a conundrum. Would it strengthen relations or damage them?

Because what I wrote is slightly off topic, I have heard Dawkin's often call the Koran a violent book. That is about as far as his criticism appears to go.
 
Mentioned this before but given the very small minority of people in the UK that are Muslim and have any idea of what Islam is about concentrating attacks on Islam would be counter productive. And especially more so today given the likes of the Daily Mail and Daily Express which like to exploit anything negative about any aspect of Islam.

It makes sense in a country that describes itself as based on Christian values, that has a Christian state religion and so on to address and use that as your example of what can be wrong with religion (as it is something that most people in your audience will have at least a passing familiarity with).
 
Mojo said:
Route 666?
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Boo said:
Which one, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania or Florida? Each has a State Route 666. US Route 666 was renamed US Route 491 in 2003 after some people complained about living on the Satanic Highway
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Not for getting the most satanic of all the A666 going from Pendlebury to Langho, which goes through Blackburn, Darwen and Notlob, pretty much the heart of cotton industrialisation, How many dark satanic mills do you need. :p
 
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Darat said:
Mentioned this before but given the very small minority of people in the UK that are Muslim and have any idea of what Islam is about concentrating attacks on Islam would be counter productive. And especially more so today given the likes of the Daily Mail and Daily Express which like to exploit anything negative about any aspect of Islam.

It makes sense in a country that describes itself as based on Christian values, that has a Christian state religion and so on to address and use that as your example of what can be wrong with religion (as it is something that most people in your audience will have at least a passing familiarity with).
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It would be unfortunate if the BNP decided to use Dawkins as their poster boy. Having said that I think their supposedly meant to be Christian so it would seem unlikely.
It might be better in the UK if protests about sex education, teaching evolution and such were just ignored rather than refuted with specific attacks on the credibility of Islam.
 
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