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Back to the Bermuda Triangle: Part I

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I was perusing the shelves of the local Waldenbooks about a week ago, looking for a book about the infamous Captain Kidd, when another book caught my attention. The title of the book was Into the Bermuda Triangle, by Gian J. Quasar. The book claims to be the culmination of an investigation into “over 1,000” disappearances that have occurred in the area over the past 25 years.

I was convinced that the Bermuda Triangle horse had been dead since the 70’s, with only the occasional twitch now and then in a Discovery Channel “documentary” about Atlantis or something similar. Quasar applies the defrib paddles and shocks this beast back to life with a book that starts as a roll of missing ships and planes and ends up taking us to Peru, Atlantis, Mars, and the labs of a Canadian “mad scientist” named John Hutchison. Mr. Quasar has also tirelessly compiled an army of strawmen to attack us crotchety old “skeptical types” and “debunkers”, including the fact that were are “closed-minded”, whereas his refusal to accept any explanation other than a supernatural one is “exploration of the mysteries of nature”.

Over the next few weeks, I will be explaining and dissecting many of the concepts, events, and conclusions recorded by Quasar in his book. They are mostly the same ones that have been recorded by everyone that has ever written a book on the “mystery” of the Triangle. They have been thoroughly dealt with elsewhere, probably a few times; yet this is a new book, with a couple of new theories, and it begs an answer.

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To begin the excellent odyssey, I think it proper to begin with a general treatment of the Triangle legend, so we can all make sure we’re on the same page.

Traditionally, the Bermuda Triangle is an area in the North Atlantic Ocean adjacent to the North American continent and the Caribbean Sea. Its vertices are commonly considered to be San Juan in Puerto Rico, Miami, and the island of Bermuda. Most reports discussed by early Triangle authors tended to originate from this area or the immediate vicinity; however, as the same stories became used up, authors were forced to venture outside the boundaries of the Triangle proper in search of new unexplained phenomenon. A couple of times, authors were bold enough to redraw the boundaries of the “Devil’s Sea”, each time making the area greater. The Triangle eventually grew to include the Windward and Leeward Islands, crawled up the coast of the United States as far as Norfolk, and eventually clambered across the ocean to encompass the Azores.

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The map above illustrates this perfectly. The green lines indicate the traditional Bermuda Triangle; the red line indicates the nebulous “Limbo of the Lost”, described by John Spencer in his book of the same name; and the blue trapezium indicates the newest incarnation, the one apparently subscribed to by Quasar. A map similar to the one drawn above can be found on page 85 of his book. Interestingly, on the next page, 86, a second map can be found plotting many of the different “points” at which particular craft are estimated to have disappeared. Interestingly, all the “points” fall neatly within the Trapezium area defined on the preceding page. However, many incidents – including some mentioned in Quasar’s own book – take place well outside.

Quasar complains that arguments as to whether incidents happen “inside” this or that geometric shape are missing the point, and are attempts to bog the issue down in semantics. Perhaps he has a point – what does it matter whether this incident happened exactly inside the Triangle? What’s the point?

The point is that, as an area, there is simply nothing special about the “Bermuda Triangle/Nebula/Trapezium”. Unexplained disappearances of ships and planes have happened and will continue to happen all over the Atlantic (as the page 86 map suggests), and anywhere else there’s an ocean. Places where travel is more frequent, such as The Bahamas, will experience more losses than other areas simply by virtue of the fact that there are more planes and ships to get lost there.

As for the planes and ships themselves, there are admittedly unexplained disappearances. They are unexplained because no distress call is sent, no debris is found, or what have you. According to Quasar’s book, over 75 aircraft and over a thousand ocean vessels of varying sizes have vanished in the Triangle area; however, it is extremely important to recognize that the “unexplained” disappearances comprise the extreme minority of accidents and incidents that occur every year in this zone. These cases, of unexplained disappearances, stand out because they are so rare. An innocent reader taking in the flap description of Quasar’s book will get the impression something odd is afoot – over a thousand yachts and boats? – and without the “big picture” perspective that there are countless more vessels involved in accidents, and in which something is recovered, that don’t make the book.

That so many accidents occur here isn’t such a mystery, either. While there may be specific localities in other places in the world more dangerous than any specific locality within this area, it is an unavoidable fact that the West Indies – the Bermuda Triangle – is the most naturally treacherous and hazardous region on earth for both sea and air travel. The water ranges from a dozen feet to a mile deep and back within a few hours’ sail; coral reefs, shoals, and other such problems abound here. The thick seafloor mud on the Bahama Banks can swallow debris and regurgitate it once disturbed by current changes. The weather isn’t much better; The Bahamas is caught between the moist tropical air flow coming from the east and the dry, cool continental flow coming from the west, which creates an unstable atmosphere capable of whipping a severe thunderstorm out of almost literally nowhere. Water temperature variations can lead to sudden changes in local wind patterns. The Vacationer’s paradise is the Traveler’s hell.

Quasar begins his book with a stereotypical introduction to the Bermuda Triangle: Flight 19. For the real scoop on Flight 19, check out my thread The Truth About Flight 19.

With that, I’ll close this (brief) first segment. In the next segment, look forward to a discussion of Atlantis as presented in Quasar’s book.
 
I've said it before: When your bit of woowoo-ism is being debunked on "Beakman's World" its time you faced the fact that the well is dry.
 
Joshua, et. al. If you're still up Mr. Quasar is on C2C right now. Were you aware of this or was your post a spooky coincidence?

And you have an information on the tale surrounding lost CAP pilot Peter Jensen? The web is stunningly silent on this guy.
 
Joshua Korosi wrote:

I was perusing the shelves of the local Waldenbooks about a week ago, looking for a book about the infamous Captain Kidd, when another book caught my attention.

I highly recommend:

Pirate Hunter: The True Story of Captain Kidd by Richard Zacks

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/102-9340629-7507358?v=glance&s=books

If you've been a good boy, maybe you can ask Santy Claus to bring you a copy.
 
Psiload said:
Joshua Korosi wrote:

I was perusing the shelves of the local Waldenbooks about a week ago, looking for a book about the infamous Captain Kidd, when another book caught my attention.

I highly recommend:

Pirate Hunter: The True Story of Captain Kidd by Richard Zacks

That is the one I was looking for that day, and I bought it.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Joshua, et. al. If you're still up Mr. Quasar is on C2C right now. Were you aware of this or was your post a spooky coincidence?

Actually, I was unaware. Small world, eh?

And you have an information on the tale surrounding lost CAP pilot Peter Jensen? The web is stunningly silent on this guy.

Without an accident report, it would be difficult. But I can give it a shot.

On February 11, 1980, a young Civil Air Patrol student named Peter Jensen boarded a Beechcraft Baron twin executive marked N9027Q at St. Thomas' Harry S. Truman Airport. At 4:15 a.m. the airport mechanic saw the airplane takeoff. Several hours later, at 8:38 a.m., a strange MAYDAY was overheard by Flemming Flight 667, which was about 400 miles from Bermuda. It was Jensen. He gave his numbers N9027Q. He reported he was only 6 and a half miles east of Miami; he had lost both engines, and was ditching the plane. Such an emergency would seem to incapacitate any pilot from further radio contact.

However, that was not all. At 8:53 a.m. American Flight 667 and Eastern Flight 924 (both about 300 miles from Bermuda) heard an even more fantastic MAYDAY. Jensen now reported he was at 150 feet elevation and disoriented in clouds (clouds at 150 feet?). The messages were relayed to Miami's RCC, which responded quickly. Continued hails over the radio brought no more responses from Jensen. He was presumed down. Searches around Miami found nothing. Moreover, the weather was quite clear; there were, of course, no clouds-- a frustrating end note to Coast Guard Miami.

Firstly, clouds at 150 feet are not unusual. It's call "sea smoke" and is a type of fog that occurs due to contrasting ocean and air temperatures. In fact, in October we here in Lorain, Ohio, were treated to a spectacular display of sea smoke coming in off Lake Erie. The fog dissipated as it drew inland, yet it was thick as cotton, coming off the lake in beautiful waves.

Secondly, It should seem clear, based on the account as given, that young Mr. Jensen was, in fact, no where near Miami. He claims to have been; yet nobody near Miami heard him or saw him just off the beach, and the weather conditions he reported did not exist near Miami. It seems quite obvious to me that he was somewhere else. But where? It's unlikely anybody knew. Jensen was probably flying VFR without a flight plan - I say this because there is no mention of any ATC contact, nor any sudden "disappearance" from the radar screen, which surely would've been expounded in the account. The fact is that without a squawk signal, there's pretty much no way to tell where any particular plane is flying over the Caribbean. Jensen reported being 6 miles from Miami, but his report is uncorroborated.

Until I see some sort of accident or incident report, I'm not particularly willing to speculate further.
 
While I'm digging up useless threads from the past, I thought I might mention that a good book to pick up about the Bermuda Triangle is "The Bermuda Triangle Mystery Solved" by Larry Kusche - mentioned by someone else in some other thread on here recently. Kusche's book addresses the more common Bermuda Triangle incidents, finding their legendary retellings to be either wholly fictional or grossly inaccurate - even finding one allegedly forever-lost "victim" of the Triangle to be alive and well and bewildered as to why he was thought dead. IIRC, Kusche found most of his research ridiculously easy - mostly newspaper articles and such. In his book "The Devil's Triangle" (sequel to his earlier bestseller "The Bermuda Triangle"), author Charles Berlitz points out the fact that Kusche never had to travel to the area in question in order to do his research, and uses the fact as a point of criticism - implying that a "true researcher" would've made the trip to the Bermuda Triangle, because...well, just because, I guess.
 
While I'm digging up useless threads from the past, I thought I might mention that a good book to pick up about the Bermuda Triangle is "The Bermuda Triangle Mystery Solved" by Larry Kusche - mentioned by someone else in some other thread on here recently.

I still have Kusche's book somewhere along with several others including Berlitz (who I understand also invented the Philadelphia experiment stuff) and Ivan T Sanderson (the ultimate frootloop) who envisaged 8 (or was it 12?) "Bermuda Triangles" or losenge shaped "vile vortices" around the planet.

The beauty of Mystery Solved is the research and referenced replies to the "mystery" which allowed anybody following the story to actually confirm that Kusche actually knew what he was talking about, as opposed to the original tellers who simply referenced each other and actually, on occasion, simply made stuff up.

Norm
 
The beauty of Mystery Solved is the research and referenced replies to the "mystery" which allowed anybody following the story to actually confirm that Kusche actually knew what he was talking about, as opposed to the original tellers who simply referenced each other and actually, on occasion, simply made stuff up.

Gian Quasar goes on quite the rant on Kusche's reporting. Has there ever been a rebuttal to his comments?
 
The point is that, as an area, there is simply nothing special about the “Bermuda Triangle/Nebula/Trapezium”. Unexplained disappearances of ships and planes have happened and will continue to happen all over the Atlantic (as the page 86 map suggests), and anywhere else there’s an ocean. Places where travel is more frequent, such as The Bahamas, will experience more losses than other areas simply by virtue of the fact that there are more planes and ships to get lost there.

Well said.

Steve Fossett disappeared over dry land, and so far a huge search effort hasn't found any sign of his plane (but has turned up some half a dozen previously uncharted wreckage sites). Why is it such a mystery that when planes or ships go down and sink in the ocean that no one can find wreckage?

I just posted the Lloyd's of London thing on another thread.
 
I still have Kusche's book somewhere along with several others including Berlitz (who I understand also invented the Philadelphia experiment stuff) and Ivan T Sanderson (the ultimate frootloop) who envisaged 8 (or was it 12?) "Bermuda Triangles" or losenge shaped "vile vortices" around the planet.

The beauty of Mystery Solved is the research and referenced replies to the "mystery" which allowed anybody following the story to actually confirm that Kusche actually knew what he was talking about, as opposed to the original tellers who simply referenced each other and actually, on occasion, simply made stuff up.

Norm

I personally blame that book for turning me into a skeptic - Although young at the time - I was hook line an sinkered into the whole Triangle thing. Kursche taught me how much fun it is to research stuff - and the absolute value of primary sources of information.

And how cool it was when in a conversation, someone mentions Flight 19 - And you can sprout all the stuff from the orginal inquiry :)
 
I still have Kusche's book somewhere along with several others including Berlitz (who I understand also invented the Philadelphia experiment stuff) and Ivan T Sanderson (the ultimate frootloop) who envisaged 8 (or was it 12?) "Bermuda Triangles" or losenge shaped "vile vortices" around the planet.

You don't like Ivan Sanderson? Then you're just going to love these three links. This is also fascinating, but sadly lacks citations.

The reasoning being "vile vortices" is absurd. What people fail to realize is that strange things and missing people/vehicles happen everywhere. You can make any shape in any state/province/etc. and get a "mystery zone."
 
Well, on this "bermuda tri-angle" thing, I actually have some first-hand "experience". I was flying from the "bahamas" (not 'bermuda", tho note the "triangle" includes the "bahamas" as they are commonly known) to St Lucie, Florida, and heard a "mayday" from a plane that was in trouble. How-ev-r it was a completely *clear* day in that neck of the world. The pilot used a "call sign" that was not right in the normal "practice". So, where did he (or she, possibly, though it did not soudn like a "she") go? I think such bizzare and unexplainable things have to have an "explanation" if you can just expand your "mind". So, why is it impossible to understand that magnetic anomalies or gravitational anomalies can exist over the ocean in the part of the world called the "bermuda tri-angle." I have seen aeronautical charts that say that magnetic anomalies exist in the vicinity of Mt. Mitchell, NC. So, is it physically impossible that they exist in the "bermuda" "tri-angle?" I would say, prove it not to be so!

Does that help?
 
In a word - no. The burden of proof is on those who make extraordinary claims. It is up to believers in the Bermuda Triangle to come up with solid evidence that such a thing exists. And, thanks to genuinely curious people such as Lawrence Kusche, there is no need to posit the existence of "magnetic anomalies or gravitational anomalies" to account for the disappearance of ships and planes in the area. Did you not read post #9?
 
Well it has been "reported" that the compass spins at increasing angular acceleration (the first derivative of acceleration is called "jerk") when the unfortunate victims are in the inner boundaries of the dread "bermuda" "tri-angle" (so noted because it is actually a parallelogram because the vertex at Miami is not a single vertex but there is one vertex at Key West and another at the site of the former Miami Marine Stadium near Key Largo.) Nothing has been brought "forth" to account for this jerking of a compass card, which is, after all just a circular fibre card with embedded magnets, immersed in alcohol (sorry its methanol, not ethanol) except the "magnetic and gravitational anomaly" that follows the natural alignments of the earch channels, and happens to coincide with this area of the ocean.

After all, where there is "smoke" there is 'fire'. Don't u think?

Does that help?
 
Well it has been "reported" that...
Sounds suspicious to me. Am I right in assuming that since you put quotes around the word "reported" that you don't have a specific citation for this claim?

If I am right, then the "report" is merely anecdotal and carries no weight whatsoever. For all we know it may be made up out of whole cloth for the purposes of someone's self-aggrandisement. There's no way of telling whether the "reported" phenomenon actually is true or not.
 
You must understand that gravimetric and magnetic anomalies are very common all around the world. All it takes, on the first case is a volume of rock whose density is different from the rock that compose its surroundings. On the second, a rock with more iron.

Its would not be an overstatement to say that every single part of the world have magnetic and gravimetric anomalies.

As for their relationship with Earth "channels", first you must define what are these channels...
 

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