Is "black hole" a racially insensitive term?

BPSCG said:
I thought it was "car hole" also. Consistent with Moe's predilection for saying "pie hole" instead of "mouth."
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Hey, you might be right. An anonymous source on the Internet says:

List of neologisms on The Simpsons - Car Hole

A common man's term for garage, coined by Moe Szyslak in "The Springfield Connection". While "Car Hole" appears only twice in the series itself, it is often used by fans to jokingly refer to a garage, or garage-like structure.

The phrase first appears in a conversation between Moe Szyslak and Homer Simpson, wherein Moe ridicules Homer for his use of the overly formal word, "garage".

Homer: Hmm. I wonder why he's so eager to go to the garage?
Moe: The "garage"? Hey fellas, the "garage"! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man.
Homer: Well what do you call it?
Moe: A car hole!

The phrase appears once more, as Homer Simpson expresses his shock, upon discovering a counterfeit jeans outfit has (inexplicably) taken up operation in his garage.

Homer: [gasps] A counterfeit jeans ring operating out of my car hole!

Due to closed-caption mistakes, many people have mistakenly thought this was "Car Hold".
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Now, I don't generally watch with CC, being as I'm not deaf. But I did mishear the line.
 
fuelair said:
A black hole is called a black hole because IF (and it is very likely) it looks like it is thought to, it will be a dark space in space - light can't escape (so no glow), light is sucked in/pulled in by the gravity, mass that gets to it's event horizon does the same - and converts essentially to energy (and can't escape. Much more detail on many locations on the net.

Lost is very like a black hole (sucks the energy out of stuff, sucks, is dark, we have no idea if it is real or not, lot's of incomplete information and guesswork associated with it). Only real difference is black holes are interesting!!
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Oooooooooooo!.. He said sucked heh, heh..
Licked is also good.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Paraphrasing:

Homer: I'll look in the garage...
Moe: Oh, listen to Mr. Fancy Pants and his big, fancy words..."Garage"!
Homer: What do you call it?
Moe: The "car hole"!
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Unfortunately, it is indeed car hold, using my nerd knowledge...

Homer: Hmmm, I wonder why he's so interested in going to the garage..."
Moe: Ooh, the "garage." Hey guys the "garage." Well la-de-da Mr. Frenchman.
Homer: Well what do you call it?
Moe: A car hold!
 
The hypersensitivity to anything and everything that can be concievably viewed as a racial put-down is essential in order to jusify and perpetuate the major-attitude-problem which involves kick ass as a solution and which perpetuates the "I'm bad you know it!" self-image admired and nurtured so much within the Afro American comunity. No chip on shoulder means no reason to be bad. No badness means not cool. Not cool means wimp. Wimp means victim. So back to the hypersensitivity about anything and everything.
 
slingblade said:
Wait...so darker skinned persons have so much gravity, not even light can escape them...what? What kind of racial slur would that be?

I guess it means black people have to lighten up?
...omg, I'm crawling away now. Quickly.
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Ain't never seen a black man, with a skin as black as coal

I'll get the song ref, early 70's, in the ETA.

ETA: From Wolfman Jack. I used to hear this on his radio show. Only ref I could find on a quick search to aid my memory is here: omegawarlowdown.com Looks like I slightly misremembered that lyric.

Ask a child what’s white he’s gonna tell you snow.
Ask a child what’s black, he’s gonna tell you coal.
Ask a child what’s red, he’s gonna tell you fire.
Ask a child what’s yellow, he’s gonna tell you the sun.
Chorus:

I ain’t never seen white man.
I ain’t never seen black man.
I ain’t never seen red man.
I ain’t never seen yellow man.

Only man I ever saw looks just like you and me.

I ain’t never met a man as pure as the driven snow.
I ain’t never known a man as hard as West Virginia coal.
I ain’t never seen a man as warm as a winter fire.
And there ain’t never been a man as bright as a the golden sun.

Chorus

Every man that looses his skin shows his snow white bones.
Every man that goes to ash accepts the coal black fate.
Every man that lies dead in the blood, shows his fire red blood.
Every man every once in a while, turns and runs yellow and scared.

Every man is a white man.
Every man is a black man.
Every man is a red man.
Every man is a yellow man.

Every man I ever saw looks just like you and me.

DR
 
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Tbone said:
Unfortunately, it is indeed car hold, using my nerd knowledge...
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Would your nerd knowledge perhaps include a reliable source so we can settle this feudin' for good and get back to talking about our feelings?
 
Darth Rotor said:
Ask a child what’s white he’s gonna tell you snow.
Ask a child what’s black, he’s gonna tell you coal.
Ask a child what’s red, he’s gonna tell you fire.
Ask a child what’s yellow, he’s gonna tell you the sun.
Chorus:

I ain’t never seen white man.
I ain’t never seen black man.
I ain’t never seen red man.
I ain’t never seen yellow man.

Only man I ever saw looks just like you and me.

I ain’t never met a man as pure as the driven snow.
I ain’t never known a man as hard as West Virginia coal.
I ain’t never seen a man as warm as a winter fire.
And there ain’t never been a man as bright as a the golden sun.

Chorus

Every man that looses his skin shows his snow white bones.
Every man that goes to ash accepts the coal black fate.
Every man that lies dead in the blood, shows his fire red blood.
Every man every once in a while, turns and runs yellow and scared.

Every man is a white man.
Every man is a black man.
Every man is a red man.
Every man is a yellow man.

Every man I ever saw looks just like you and me.

DR
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Kumbayah!
 
Psi Baba said:
Well, I hope that'll teach Mr. Mayfield to be more niggardly in this choice of terminology when describing the inefficiencies of the Dallas County courthouse.
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Had I been in Mr. Mayfield's position, I would have immediately shot back with, "sir, it appears you were the victim of a niggardly education."

Then I would have leaned back and watched the ensuing comedy of apoplectic buffoonery.
 
RadioactiveMan said:
Had I been in Mr. Mayfield's position, I would have immediately shot back with, "sir, it appears you were the victim of a niggardly education."

Then I would have leaned back and watched the ensuing comedy of apoplectic buffoonery.
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I love how people who don't know the history of this town will offer ignorant commentary like this. :rolleyes:
 
That reminds me of the fuss made over slave and master hard drives a while ago... some idiots are just looking for any excuse to be offended.
 
MRC_Hans said:
In reply to OP:

Depends on the use. If referring to the astronomical phenomenon, not at all.

In other cases, it certainly might be.

Hans
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The context, as mentioned online (Dallas Morning News, Editorial, Hits and Misses):

John Wiley Price hits bottom, digs

County Commissioner John Wiley Price made Dallas a national laughingstock this week with the ridiculous umbrage he took over the term "black hole." The astrophysics phrase refers to a field of gravity so strong that light cannot escape it. This is why fellow Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who's white, used it to describe a county office that allegedly loses paperwork. The extravagantly thin-skinned Mr. Price, who is black, interpreted this as a racial slight, and Justice of the Peace Thomas Jones, also black, demanded an apology from Mr. Mayfield for his purported insensitivity. As if that weren't silly enough, Mr. Price later appeared on Fox 4 to complain about the hidden bigotry in the dessert rivalry between angel's food cake (white) and devil's food cake (black). He was serious. Or, at least, took himself to be. Well, somebody has to, we guess.

I saw the segment on the news and it was pretty ridiculous. Video here.
 
zenotter said:
As if that weren't silly enough, Mr. Price later appeared on Fox 4 to complain about the hidden bigotry in the dessert rivalry between angel's food cake (white) and devil's food cake (black).
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I'd inform commissioner price that I like devils food cake, but not a big fan of angel food cake. My favorite is red velvet cake though, and I'm scared of yellow cake.

His head would probably explode.

Good letter to ed pointing out his inanity in the DMN Points section (though only one, I was a bit surprised).
 
zenotter said:
The context, as mentioned online (Dallas Morning News, Editorial, Hits and Misses):

John Wiley Price hits bottom, digs

County Commissioner John Wiley Price made Dallas a national laughingstock this week with the ridiculous umbrage he took over the term "black hole."
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No, that's not correct. The sentence should have read, "County Commissioner John Wiley Price made County Commissioner John Wiley Price a national laughingstock this week with the ridiculous umbrage he took over the term "black hole."

Unless anyone thinks that Dallas is the only place where such a buffoon can be elected to a position of public trust. To those people, I submit suburban Atlanta, which six times decided that Cynthia McKinney was the best person they could send to represent them in Congress, or northern Virginia, which repeatedly sends wife-beating, boozing, antisemitic, influence peddling Jim ("I Like to Hit People") Moran to Congress.

Then there's the whole state of California, which looks like ward 6 at your local psychiatric hospital, compared to Dallas.
 
BPSCG said:
No, that's not correct. The sentence should have read, "County Commissioner John Wiley Price made County Commissioner John Wiley Price a national laughingstock this week with the ridiculous umbrage he took over the term "black hole."
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No that's not correct either. He's made himself a national laughingstock a sufficient number of times in the past that this isn't his first offense.

The one timer for Dallas is City Councilman Mitchell Rasansky and his hatred of the Boy Scouts and bats.
 
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UnrepentantSinner said:
No that's not correct either. He's made himself a national laughingstock a sufficient number of times in the past that this isn't his first offense.
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Well, I would argue that he hasn't been a national laughingstock until this week. But then we'd be arguing simply over a matter of degree, not kind.

The one timer for Dallas is City Councilman Mitchell Rasansky and his hatred of the Boy Scouts and bats.[/quote]Careful about clicking on the encyclopediadramatica.com link that comes up - it's definitely NSFW.

Wow. Just... wow.

He also wants to ban toy guns.

:eek:

A barking moonbat.
 
How about black magic vs white magic? Blackmail? Blackened reputation? Black Widow Spider! Black sheep? Black death? Blackball? Black comedy? Black market? Even black Africans raised on that continent tend to use the term "black" when referring to negative things. So are they being racist?

BTW

"blacksmith?" blackboard and black Hole" are connotatively neutral
terms and make people who take umbrage seem paranoid.
 
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