Phelps on Carlin

[westprog]

True. One of the surprises (to me) in the underlying data from that Pew study referenced in the "21% of atheists believe in God" thread is that support for legal discrimination against homosexuality is higher among the "not religious" group than among some of the religious groups. That said, the fundamentalists (evangelicals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormons) led the pack, so the stereotype is not without some justification.

And as I've said before, it's the way of thinking that is dangerous. Simply assuming that religious belief is the threat is missing the important part.

Tolerance and intolerance of diversity don't correlate with belief or lack of it. They correlate with a particular kind of certainity which is to be seen among people with any religious beliefs, or none. Nothing that Phelps comes out with is impossible from atheists.

 

[H3LL]

Nothing that Phelps comes out with is impossible from atheists.

It's true. I get atheists telling me I'm going to burn in hell for eternity ALL the time.

Bloody atheists! Tut!

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[westprog]

It's true. I get atheists telling me I'm going to burn in hell for eternity ALL the time.

Bloody atheists! Tut!

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From

http://www.geocities.com/gueroperro/Chron-44-page.wps.htm

1933
USSR - Revision of the Soviet penal code outlaws consensual homosexuality, reflecting the growing Stalinist repression. Maxim Gorki writing in Pravda and Izvestia, calls it a "triumph of proletarian humanitarianism", and warned that the legalization of homosexuality had been the main cause of Fascism in Germany.

USSR - Mass arrests of gays are carried out in Moscow, Leningrad, Kharkov and Odessa. A large number of those arrested are actors, musicians and artists. Accused of engaging in "homosexual orgies" they receive years of imprisonment or exile in Siberia.

1934
USSR - The law punishing homosexual acts with imprisonment of up to eight years, becomes a federal statute through the active intervention of Stalin, thus requiring all the republics to insert the law into their penal codes.

1936
USSR - Commissar of Justice, Nikolai Krylenko, insists there is no reason for anyone to be a homosexual after two decades of socialism, and that people persisting in these practices are obviously "remnants of the exploiting classes", and as such deserve five years at hard labor.

But no atheist ever called it a "sin" and said they'd burn in hell. So that's all right. Nothing to worry about there!

 

[H3LL]

From

http://www.geocities.com/gueroperro/Chron-44-page.wps.htm

Can you let me know how I should benefit from information from a failed political sytem in a country that has disappeared?

Or how information from a failed political sytem in a country that has disappeared is relevant to Christian interpretation of Leviticus (your choice - there are others)?

The Etruscans liked lamb ... so what?



ETA: Are you suggesting correlation beween communism and atheism.

If so, communism is like atheism like Christianity is like the Third Reich.

Still has nothing to do with loveable Phelps.

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[EarlFaulk]

Re: phelps on Carlin

Im surprised there havent been more people jumping up and down now that Carlin is dead. I imagine he pissed off a lot of moralists with his style of humor.

 

[sphenisc]

ETA : [Note to self] -read the full thread first.

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

I've often wondered that myself. I'm surprised some crazy biker just out of the joint, with nothing to lose, just put a boot to the face of those protesters.

Why does it have to be a crazed biker? I'm a biker, a veteran, and a deer hunter. Honestly, the biker part is not what Mr. Phelps should be concerned about.

 

[westprog]

Can you let me know how I should benefit from information from a failed political sytem in a country that has disappeared?

Or how information from a failed political sytem in a country that has disappeared is relevant to Christian interpretation of Leviticus (your choice - there are others)?

The Etruscans liked lamb ... so what?



ETA: Are you suggesting correlation beween communism and atheism.

If so, communism is like atheism like Christianity is like the Third Reich.

Still has nothing to do with loveable Phelps.

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What we have is an example of Phelps-like homophobia from avowed atheists. What we also saw described in this thread and elsewhere is opposition to Phelps' ideas from Christians.

So where does that leave the idea that all the Christians have some kind of inner moral corruption that makes H3ll better than them?