Are Truthers' accusations against Silverstein based on latent anti-Semitism?

BenBurch said:
It was pointed out to me just now that there might be an irrational and genocidal hatred of Israel distinct from the irrational and genocidal hated of jews.
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Ragnarok said:
Bearing in mind Israel only exists because of acts carried out by Western governments, and their continued support, it is hardly surprising they have few fans in the East, is it?
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The fact that something is predictable does not mean it is justified.
 
pomeroo said:
David, I asked RedIbis to denounce the vicious Jew-haters in the fantasy movement who promote nonsensical myths about "dancing Jews," Mossad agents, and mysterious messages warning Jews to stay out of the Towers on 9/11. He refuses to do so. This represents the first principled stand he has ever taken. What do you suppose the principle is?
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Like I already said and you stubbornly refuse to understand: you could ask me to pledge that the sun rises in the east, and because it comes from a spiteful and bitter half rate public access "host", I won't do it.

I don't give a damn what pledge you propose, stick it in your giant hardfire tankard.
 
funk de fino said:
I aksed you a question. I will answer you when you answer me.

Do you condemn the jew haters and bigots in the TM? Especially the ones that post here?
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What's the matter, do you have a problem answering a simple question? Tell you what, I'll give you a substitute one.

Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are wife beaters? Do you? No evasion, now!

And if you don't like that, question, I'll give you another option. Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are child molesters?

Please don't tell me that these simple questions are too hard for you to answer.
 
metamars said:
What's the matter, do you have a problem answering a simple question? Tell you what, I'll give you a substitute one.

Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are wife beaters? Do you? No evasion, now!

And if you don't like that, question, I'll give you another option. Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are child molesters?

Please don't tell me that these simple questions are too hard for you to answer.
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There is a difference between what you are saying and what we are saying.

We can provide proof that anti-semitism and 9/11 Deniers go hand to hand. We can cite examples and give names. There is even a photo of Chris Bollyn and Steven Jones together.

However, you have no proof that there are some members on this forum who are child molesters and wife beaters. Even if you did, they don't have any influence on our arguments, unlike 9/11 deniers, and we would condemned them. Just look at Troy; he didn't have to be a wife beater or a child molester to get banned from here.
 
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metamars said:
Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are wife beaters? Do you? No evasion, now!

And if you don't like that, question, I'll give you another option. Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are child molesters?
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If I ever encounter a JREF debunker who I find to be a wife-beater or a child molestor I will not hesitate to condemn him for it.

If you ever encounter a truther who is a racist and an anti-semite, and spreads malicious lies about people based on their Jewish ethnicity, what will be your response?

Dave
 
~enigma~ said:
It's not latent. They may think it doesn't show but it does.
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DavidJames said:
Sorry, but this logic is no different then the CTists...
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RedIbis said:
Not so strangely, this rational post went almost completely unnoticed. This should have ended this ridiculous thread.
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It was a reply specifically to
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Enigma. You left that bit out.

Be civil.
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metamars said:
What's the matter, do you have a problem answering a simple question? Tell you what, I'll give you a substitute one.

Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are wife beaters? Do you? No evasion, now!
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Of course I do. All JREF debunkers who beat their wives are uncivilized scum and I want nothing to do with them.

And if you don't like that, question, I'll give you another option. Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are child molesters?
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Of course I do. All JREF debunkers who molest children deserve the very harshest punishments our society permits.

Please don't tell me that these simple questions are too hard for you to answer.
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Obviously not.

Now, do you condemn the jew haters and bigots in the TM? Especially the ones that post here?

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Par said:
It was a reply specifically to Enigma. You left that bit out.
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Why would I have to put that in? Talk about tedious. I can't even agree with someone's post without being nipped at the heels.

Edited the quote for consistency with mod action in the original post.
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MarkyX said:
So you believe the United States should join back with Britain?

That's what your suggesting with your train of logic.
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I think Turkey should give Asia Minor back to the Greeks. They stole it! No blood for land!:mad:
 
metamars said:
What's the matter, do you have a problem answering a simple question? Tell you what, I'll give you a substitute one.

Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are wife beaters? Do you? No evasion, now!

And if you don't like that, question, I'll give you another option. Do you condemn the JREF "debunkers" who are child molesters?

Please don't tell me that these simple questions are too hard for you to answer.
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Actually there is nothing whatsoever difficult about these questions. The answer is " I condemn without reservation ANYBODY who molests a child or beats their wife".

It does raise the question though as to why you may have possibly thought these question were difficult to answer. Is there some reason why you may think anybody would have such difficulty answering these questions? Is there a reason why you may have singled out two of the most disgusting actions possible and asked for their condemnation?

Now, that is out of the way do you condemn anybody who is Anti Semitic? ANYBODY? Yes or no?

See above if you are searching for ways to express yourself.
 
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~enigma~ said:
So you believe there are no outward and obvious anti-semites in the bowel movement? Or rather you claim there is no evidence of any outward anti-semitism in the bowel movement?
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You're kidding right? You quoted me. I'll quote me again, I'll bold the relevant part.
DavidJames said:
Sorry, but this logic is no different then the CTists. No doubt there are anti-semitic CTists, but we don't do the cause of skepticism any favors by making such claims without evidence. The same goes for those who want to lay this at the feet of "leftists".

We demand evidence by the CTists to support their claims, I suggest we ask no less of ourselves.
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Are there anti-semites who believe the official story? Have they been condemned? Is it even anyone's responsibility to go out and condemn everyone who happens to agree with a particular theory.

I believe the diesel is superior to the gasoline engine. Do I have to condemn every anti-semitic diesel supporter? How about the anti-Czech diesel supporters? Do I have to condemn them too?
 
pomeroo said:
David, I asked RedIbis to denounce the vicious Jew-haters in the fantasy movement who promote nonsensical myths about "dancing Jews," Mossad agents, and mysterious messages warning Jews to stay out of the Towers on 9/11. He refuses to do so. This represents the first principled stand he has ever taken. What do you suppose the principle is?
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I have no idea what Red's opinion on Jews are. But to paint everyone who refuses to dance to your tune as an anti-semite is, IMHO, simplistic and wrong.

I believe Red falls somewhere between a troll and mentally ill. You can attribute all his beliefs to his feelings about jews if you like, but that makes you no different then those that attribute 9/11 CT to the rantings of leftists. Wait, that's you as well.
 
Just for the record, I'm not anti-Semitic.

I hate everyone equally.
 
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DavidJames said:
I have no idea what Red's opinion on Jews are. But to paint everyone who refuses to dance to your tune as an anti-semite is, IMHO, simplistic and wrong.

I believe Red falls somewhere between a troll and mentally ill. You can attribute all his beliefs to his feelings about jews if you like, but that makes you no different then those that attribute 9/11 CT to the rantings of leftists. Wait, that's you as well.
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Once again I ask, you see blatant anti-semitism in truthers yet there is no evidence? And you accuse me and others of using CT logic?!
 
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