Cellular Memory in Organ Transplants

[Locknar]

This came up in another thread, and I thought it worthy of its own so I've split it.

I also know how organ transplant recipients can crave things their donors used to crave. My husband had strange cravings right after he received 4 units of blood. May have had something to do with it, maybe not.

Other then your husband (still waiting on that dry-gun lube btw), do you have any other source or reference...other then the movies you find on Oxygen or A&E that is.

No campfire stories, but a scientifically documented case you can provide a reference to?

Here is a hint: You can't

 

[FSM]

Although I have no research or support from "Mr. Science," I do have my own story to back up cellular memory. After a horrible fireworks accident when I was younger, I finally had an eyeball transplant and discovered uncomfortably that I could see the future with my new eyeballs.

One type of woo was insufficient for me-- I had to combine cellular memory woo with psychic ability.

Don't bother to see it. You'll wish your eyes weren't working during the entire film, trust me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_(2008_film)

 

[Locknar]

Thanks for that input there Sydney....er, I mean FSM But of course, you saw I was going to write this note now didn't you *lol*

With any luck, Mayday will chime in and provide something other then a campfire story to substantiate her claim.

 

[tapman]

I recently had my middle finger cut off only to have another sewn on from a recently departed trucker. Every time someone cuts me off the darn thing goes strait up in the air. Is that cellular memory or what?

 

[FSM]

tapman, Welcome! and a hearty LOL to you, my new friend.

Lock-- I wouldn't hold my breath on mayday chiming in with anything other than uncomfortable feces related ancedotes.

Which reminds me.... After a bizzarre circus act injury, I had to have a buttocks transplant and the only one available at the time of my surgery was a local politician's derrierre. Surgery worked out okay and I even have seemed to have developed a strange skill after the surgery. Can you guess what it is?

I can now speak out my ass.

 

[Smackety]

http://www.heartmath.org/

Search their site for "Transplant"
I personally don't think that there are enough neurons in the heart to remember much...

 

[leon_heller]

There are even fewer in a few pints of blood!

Leon

 

[drapier]

I recently had my middle finger cut off only to have another sewn on from a recently departed trucker. Every time someone cuts me off the darn thing goes strait up in the air. Is that cellular memory or what?

There's a great movie from the '30s about this idea: Mad Love. (Also know as The Hands of Orlac.) It's about a concert pianist who has had his hands amputated and replaced by the hands of knife wielding murderer. He can't play the piano any more, but he sure can throw a knife.

It stars Colin Clive (Dr. Frankenstein from Frankenstein) and Peter Lorre.

 

[Professor Yaffle]

My baby niece recently has a heart transplant. The donor heart came from a 3 year old French girl. I'll be sure to let you know if she grows up with a penchant for frog's legs and a tendency to surrender...

 

[Locknar]

I sure hope Mayday joins in the conversation, and can provide something other then a campfire story to substantiate her claim wrt cellular memory.

 

[Jimbo07]

My baby niece recently has a heart transplant. The donor heart came from a 3 year old French girl. I'll be sure to let you know if she grows up with a penchant for frog's legs and a tendency to surrender...

Ooh! Maybe she'll have lucid dreams in which she speaks fluent French!

 

[luchog]

Ooh! Maybe she'll have lucid dreams in which she speaks fluent French!

I've had that happen. Not with French, but with Japanese, Russian, and German. In my dream I'm speaking the language with a native fluency, and supposedly know what it means. When I awake, I recognize enough of it to know that it's not just gibberish; but I don't know enough to be able to translate it while awake. Maybe I'm channeling some sort of untapped mind powers?

Or, far more likely, my subconscious is merely dredging up dialogue from one of the (literally) hundreds of foreign films and television programs I've watched over the course of my life; and attaching some completely unrelated meaning to it.

 

[Ashles]

Is there some form of collective amnesia to which I alone am immune?

Are people still asking for evidence from... MAYDAY... to back up her stories?

Have we not moved about one million miles past the point at which we all know Mayday is either a very persistent troll, a chronic attention seeker or mentally ill?

Should we all start writing emails to Uri Geller asking him to back up stories of his mental bending abilities?

Guys, seriously, I don't see how it can still be fun to bait her/him/it into making up yet more nonsense.

 

[Marmaduke]

I've had blood transfussions, a kidney transplant and a heart valve (pig) replacement. I can't say that I've experienced any "cellular memory." I certainly didn't gain any of my father's qualities or cravings when I had the kidney transplant.

 

[Locknar]

Are people still asking for evidence from... MAYDAY... to back up her stories?

She made the comment, and I see no harm in giving her the chance to substantiate the claim, or fail in the attempt.

To allow her, or anyone's for that matter, "woo woo" claims to go uncontested seems to imply consent at some level.

 

[arthwollipot]

 

[Smackety]

I've had blood transfussions, a kidney transplant and a heart valve (pig) replacement. I can't say that I've experienced any "cellular memory." I certainly didn't gain any of my father's qualities or cravings when I had the kidney transplant.

Heart transplants are the key though - love and passion come from the heart as we all know!

I think if we managed a brain transplant then the person would be a LOT different.

A real brain transplant

 

[blauregen]

There was some research into biochemical memory transfer in the 60's and 70's of the last century. The results looked promising at first,but further investigation revealed that they were not actually connected to the training the donor received and the results were attributed to the transmission of stress hormones. This pretty much ended the idea that you could become a better physicist by getting a piece of Einstein.

An overview of the story is here.

I could not find any research involving organ transplants from trained donors.

 

[Ocelot]

I wonder if this was Mayday's own thoughts or whether he aquired them some sort of transplant

 

[Aitch]

Prior to my kidney problems , I was a blood donor.

Does that mean there are a few people around with a sudden un-explained urge to listen to The Grateful Dead and the works of JS Bach, while drinking a bit more than is good for them?