Merged Barry Jennings Says There Were Dead People in WTC 7!!!!

[LashL]

He talked to NIST years ago, before there was much media coverage.

Actually, he spoke to NIST in the spring of 2004, hardly "before there was much media coverage".

He also spoke on the street at 11:34 A.M. on 9/11.

Evidence of the time, please?

 

[~enigma~]

He's got the video to prove it and you just broke the forum rules by calling names like a spoiled young girl.

What video? Is it one that was televised or is it some new super secret video that is only viewable by trutherbots? BTW, if I called any members a name, report my post

 

[Galileo]

Can you explain how you came to your timeline?

By listening to what Jennings said.

 

[quicknthedead]

Also, as has been discussed here previously, Jennings' time line just doesn't jibe. It may be that he is just confused about the timing due to the trauma he experienced and the frailty of memory during traumatic events, but there are too many things about his timeline that make no sense and that are out of sync with all other accounts, for it to be accepted as accurate.

Yes.

Hess said they left the OEM 23rd floor when the power went out and it became dark. This is when they began their descent, and the power in WTC7 went out when WTC2 came down.

By the time they got down to the 6th floor, this is when WTC1 came down.

The correct timeline comes from Hess and Jennings themselves.

Jennings was, and still is, confused.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3723485#post3723485

 

[~enigma~]

Evidence of the time, please?

He is basing the time on a "video analysis" by the proven liar and guano infested idiot and theologian DRG. Guess suddenly DRG has been promoted to god status

 

[Galileo]

He (Michaelr) does that all the time. Just read through all the 9/11 threads on the site... It is laughable.

your link says that the OEM was evacuated at 9:45, that's another NIST lie. It was already evacuated by 9:03 as Jennings has stated.

 

[~enigma~]

By listening to what Jennings said.

So you have no evidence. Why didn't you just say your basing your belief on faith. If you said that I wouldn't say that your beliefs were idiotic. Now I will say it...your beliefs are idiotic

 

[DaN K. StAnLeY]

does this mean AJ is back on with calling FDNY murderers?

Yes, I actually can't remember him not calling them murderers.

 

[Galileo]

Actually, he spoke to NIST in the spring of 2004, hardly "before there was much media coverage".



Evidence of the time, please?

I never heard any coverage until 2006. Jennings also did several media interviews in 2001 and 2002, you have NO IDEA how much of his conversations were left out of the published versions. Most media presents only a fraction of all that was said.

11:34 is cited in chapter 24 of Griffin's new book, 9/11 Contradictions, with his sources. He has a video of Jennings interview with a time stamp. Sometimes you debunkers need to forget there's a world out there outside of the Internet.

 

[quicknthedead]

Jennings is right on. He was on the 23rd floor by 9:03 AM. He and Hess went down to the 6th floor, experienced the explosion, then went up to the 8th floor, easy to do by 9:59.

He looked out the window of the 8th floor and saw both Towers standing. Then he got the attention of some firemen who were coming to rescue him, when the South Tower went down. Then the firemen came back and the North tower went down.

Then he was rescued, went a half mile from WTC 7, and did TV interview at 11:34 A.M.

NIST lied.

Give it up.

You are wrong...according to Jennings and Hess themselves.

See my post above:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3803051#post3803051

Care to offer an explanation now?

 

[LashL]

Jennings is right on. He was on the 23rd floor by 9:03 AM.

This is highly doubtful. According to Mr. Jennings, he first received a call some time after the first plane struck at 8:46 (he doesn't indicate how long after the fact, but there is no reason to think that he would be among the very first people called to the scene, so I think it's safe to say that it took a while before he was notified), and then he had to make arrangements to meet Mr. Hess, and then he had to meet with Mr. Hess, and then he had to travel to 7WTC, and then the two of them went up to the 23rd floor but couldn't get in, and then they had to go back down to the lobby, and then they had to find someone to escort them back up to the 23rd floor which was, by that time empty, etc.

Sorry, but the timeline just doesn't fit the known facts or the accounts of anyone else who was on the scene that day.

ETA: And he didn't mention seeing dead people, which is the subject matter of this thread. Not in 2001 and not in 2007. The "truth" movement is full of liars.

 

[~enigma~]

11:34 is cited in chapter 24 of Griffin's new book, 9/11 Contradictions, with his sources. He has a video of Jennings interview with a time stamp. Sometimes you debunkers need to forget there's a world out there outside of the Internet.

And something you trutherbots need to remember is that other people see the same bs you twist. Now the video has a time stamp in the beginning. How did DRG extrapolate that Jennings was 1/2 mile from the wtc and time stamps can be in error just as they were at the pentagon or did you forget they said 9/12/2001?

 

[Galileo]

Yes.

Hess said they left the OEM 23rd floor when the power went out. This is when they began their descent, and the power in WTC7 went out when WTC2 came down.

By the time they got down to the 6th floor, this is when WTC1 came down.

The correct timeline comes from Hess and Jennings themselves.

Jennings was, and still is, confused.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3723485#post3723485

you're confused. Jennings has been consistent in every interview. Some of the power was knocked out by the plane impacts.

NIST also lied in their report when they left out the word explosion. According to NIST, dust and debris settled into the stairwell, but no explosion is mentioned.

What NIST says is secondhand info, what Jennings says is firsthand. NIST needs to release the recordings of their interview with Jennings Until then, what they say about Jennings is hearsay.

 

[tj15]

your link says that the OEM was evacuated at 9:45, that's another NIST lie. It was already evacuated by 9:03 as Jennings has stated.

First of all, I don't think it was my link.

Prove that NIST is lying about what time the OEM was evacuated.

Also, prove that Jennings was in the OEM at 9:03.

 

[~enigma~]

What NIST says is secondhand info, what Jennings says is firsthand. NIST needs to release the recordings of their interview with Jennings Until then, what they say about Jennings is hearsay.

By the same token until you or DRG or whoever the lying trutherbot is that has the "video" releases it, it's just hearsay and possibly manufactured bs out of the bowel movement.

 

[Galileo]

Give it up.

You are wrong...according to Jennings and Hess themselves.

See my post above:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3803051#post3803051

Care to offer an explanation now?

You give it up and start using the facts.

Jennings states in his interview he is on the 23rd floor when the 2nd plane hit. He is on the 8th floor when the South tower goes down.

Secondhand evidence is heresay, you need firsthand evidence, or you lose.

 

[~enigma~]

First of all, I don't think it was my link.

Prove that NIST is lying about what time the OEM was evacuated.

Also, prove that Jennings was in the OEM at 9:03.

You do realize that the reason I call them the bowel movement is illustrated perfectly here. They just throw poo at the wall hoping something sticks.

 

[LashL]

Yes.

Hess said they left the OEM 23rd floor when the power went out. This is when they began their descent, and the power in WTC7 went out when WTC2 came down.

By the time they got down to the 6th floor, this is when WTC1 came down.

The correct timeline comes from Hess and Jennings themselves.

Jennings was, and still is, confused.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3723485#post3723485

Indeed. I agree, and all of the evidence agrees with this as well.

(Except for Jennings' claims in 2007 to the Loose with the Truth crew that he was on the 23rd floor at 0903, which is obviously not accurate, but the man was obviously confused when he said that.)

 

[tj15]

You do realize that the reason I call them the bowel movement is illustrated perfectly here. They just throw poo at the wall hoping something sticks.

I realize that for sure.

 

[~enigma~]

Secondhand evidence is heresay

Sort of like this non-existent video?