Obama Changes Presidential Seal

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Eh fairly common for English fans to turn up with the name of their clubs on england falgs at international matches.

So you think English football fans should be used as the benchmark for polite and respectful behavior?
 
The Rules to the world according to gnomes, as I see them forming up here;

1. Anything a black politician does is wrong.

2. Anything a black person does is wrong.

3. All black people hate all white people.

4. All black people are morally inferior to all white people.

Did I miss anything?

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So you think English football fans should be used as the benchmark for polite and respectful behavior?

We are talking about something releated to patriotism what has this got to do with polite and respectful behavior?
 
The Rules to the world according to gnomes, as I see them forming up here;

1. Anything a black politician does is wrong.

2. Anything a black person does is wrong.

3. All black people hate all white people.

4. All black people are morally inferior to all white people.

Did I miss anything?







Have you ever noticed that RACISTS define people by the color of their skin?


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Psst, you look foolish not knowing my "race".
 
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Have you ever noticed that RACISTS define people by the color of their skin?


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Psst, you look foolish not knowing my "race".

are you suggesting only a racist would recognize the external biological differences between whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, native americans, native australians, and indians/pakistanis?
 
are you suggesting only a racist would recognize the external biological differences between whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, native americans, native australians, and indians/pakistanis?

Nope, I am stating that people who DEFINE people by the color of their skin are racists.

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I have to say, that podium badge is too much for me. I don't see it as hysterically as Jerome does, but it does curdle in my stomach. It smacks of Bush's "Western White House" tackiness.

If there's a line between really, really liking Obama and idolizing him, that badge is over the line. It's almost like a big Kick Me sign. Here's hoping we never see it again (at least from the Obama campaign).
 
We are talking about something releated to patriotism what has this got to do with polite and respectful behavior?
If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I was talking about it being disrespectful. It was others who were calling it unpatriotic or anti-American.
 
I have to say, that podium badge is too much for me. I don't see it as hysterically as Jerome does, but it does curdle in my stomach. It smacks of Bush's "Western White House" tackiness.

If there's a line between really, really liking Obama and idolizing him, that badge is over the line. It's almost like a big Kick Me sign. Here's hoping we never see it again (at least from the Obama campaign).
His campaign is prone to rookie mistakes like this. It is either that or incredible arrogance, If it is the former the plaque will go away but, if it is arrogance it just feeds a perception of him that is already out there.
 
I must admit that I don't think that logo is a good idea. Sure it may be done elsewhere and in many other subtle and not-so-subtle ways but that does not make it a smart move in my book.

But I don't think any idiotic, redneck wingnut will find any sinister motives in it. Oh, wait........
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I get lots of e-mail from idiotic redneck wingnuts... I expect this will be something they can feast on!
 
Seeing that darn near made me choke on my Whole Foods arugula and imported ham.

Change you'd better believe, when it suits.
 
.... His disrespect for America is showing.
.....Bastardization of the Presidential Seal!
We are seeing a exposition of anti-Americanism when taken in total.

Now compare just one of Jerome's anti-American statements from elsewhere:

The Republic is in flux, the last vestiges are being dismantled. The Corporatism as Mussolini would have preferred to call this government is funded by the Empire. The Empire is expanding.

Judge Jerome's consistancy and honesty for yourselves. Plenty more statements like that one and worse.

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Noted on another forum:

18 USC Sec. 713 ... (a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(b) Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

Oh oh ...

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Well he should be fine under section (a) as quoted above as that seal is not a likeness of the great seal. Similar but not a likeness. He could be in trouble under section (b) but only if running for President as the nominee of one of the two major parties is not considered "official use of the Government of the United States."
 
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