Flight 93

[Jonnyclueless]

if one part of it is fake then all of it is worthless. therefor the entire thing is a fabrication. you don't think much, huh?

You were being asked for proof of any of it being fake.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

And the thread moved into recalling memories during traumatic events... please try to keep up and follow along...

Thanks...

Yes, and you thinking you remember exactly how everything happened is your proof that how you remember everything is exactly how it happened. Well, I'm convinced!

 

[TC329]

what part of it is fake. provide evidence that it is.

gee dom you dont think much do you

all of it is fake because the plane flew over Indian Lake which the FDR does not account for but multiple witnesses do so therefor the entire thing is fabricated.

didn't this sink in the first time I typed it?

 

[Southwind17]

if one part of it is fake then all of it is worthless. therefor the entire thing is a fabrication. you don't think much, huh?

And if one or more parts of a witness statement are shown to be woefully inaccurate (let's call it "fake", just for argument's sake), it's perfectly sensible to rely on the rest, yes? Seems to be somewhat of a discriminatory mismatch here!

 

[Arus808]

all of it is fake because the plane flew over Indian Lake

prove that it did. please provide PHYSICAL evidence that it did. hear-witnesses is not proof

 

[gumboot]

Yes because if you blindfold 100 people and drive a car or fly a plane by them there is no way they are going to correctly identify from which way the sound approached.

Actually if the plane is going 500MPH you can pretty much guarantee most of them won't have a clue where the sound came from. Congratulations on an epic failure.

Presumably you're aware that the human ear is awful at assessing the direction of sound that originates above or below the horizontal level of the ear, right?

 

[gumboot]

all of it is fake because the plane flew over Indian Lake which the FDR does not account for but multiple witnesses do so therefor the entire thing is fabricated.

didn't this sink in the first time I typed it?

Hrm, putting the shonky testimony of a handful of witnesses above a wealth of physical and primary evidence? Sound familiar to anyone?

I can't wait until you interview an eyewitness to UA175's impact that claims the aircraft hit the north tower, and use that to cry foul on the event at the WTC...

 

[TC329]

And if one or more parts of a witness statement are shown to be woefully inaccurate (let's call it "fake", just for argument's sake), it's perfectly sensible to rely on the rest, yes? Seems to be somewhat of a discriminatory mismatch here!

Do you understand the definition of corroboration?

if 3 witnesses say the plane is right side up and 4 say it is upside down and 3 say it was on its side but all 10 say it came from the south you can bet your last dollar that it came from the south.....

 

[gumboot]

Do you understand the definition of corroboration?

if 3 witnesses say the plane is right side up and 4 say it is upside down and 3 say it was on its side but all 10 say it came from the south you can bet your last dollar that it came from the south.....

Not necessarily.

 

[TC329]

prove that it did. please provide PHYSICAL evidence that it did. hear-witnesses is not proof

Pittsburgh Tribune Review says Jim Stop seen it flyover while fishing at Indian Lake.

Val McClatchey sees it outside her window after hearing the sound of a plane from pass from Indian Lake towards the crash site so although she heard it first she still saw it.

Paul Muro describes seeing a huge silver plane flying north towards the crash site.

Theres 3 eyewitnesses.

 

[TC329]

Presumably you're aware that the human ear is awful at assessing the direction of sound that originates above or below the horizontal level of the ear, right?

Yes I understand the human race is retarded and Bush's handpicked Commission who was in constant contact with Bush's advisor Rove are honest human beings with no motivation to lie or cover anything up.

Repeating that people are too stupid to know what they hear doesn't make it true.

 

[Arus808]

sorry, but did they identify the flight or just another plane in the area. please provide pHYSICAL proof.

what part of physical do you not understand?

 

[TC329]

Not necessarily.

but of course it doesn't.....

 

[TC329]

sorry, but did they identify the flight or just another plane in the area. please provide pHYSICAL proof.

what part of physical do you not understand?

Ok.

Please provide physical proof that it was United Airlines Flight 93 that created the crater. Something that can be clearly identified at UA93 and then independently corroborated as such.

This should be very easy for you.

 

[gumboot]

Repeating that people are too stupid to know what they hear doesn't make it true.

Just because you don't know anything about sound doesn't mean everyone is equally ignorant. Some of us have actually studied these things...

 

[TC329]

Ok.

Please provide physical proof that it was United Airlines Flight 93 that created the crater. Something that can be clearly identified at UA93 and then independently corroborated as such.

This should be very easy for you.

BTW - This is an open challenge although I did specifically challenge Arus808 I challenge anyone of you to provide this type of proof.

 

[applecorped]

where are the flyover witnesses?

 

[TC329]

where are the flyover witnesses?

who said anything about a flyover in Shanksville?

obsess much?

 

[Southwind17]

Do you understand the definition of corroboration?

Yes, I do. Do you understand that it proves nothing? How many times do you suppose UFO sightings (of the alien kind) are corroborated?

if 3 witnesses say the plane is right side up and 4 say it is upside down and 3 say it was on its side but all 10 say it came from the south you can bet your last dollar that it came from the south.....

No you cannot. That's where you're going wrong.

Pittsburgh Tribune Review says Jim Stop seen it flyover while fishing at Indian Lake.

Oh, well what more proof can anybody ask for then ... Pittsburgh Tribune Review and the inimitable Jim Stop. Say no more!

Val McClatchey sees it outside her window after hearing the sound of a plane from pass from Indian Lake towards the crash site so although she heard it first she still saw it.

I don't suppose you'd care to quote exactly how Val McClatchey described her sighting, would you?! I'll do it for you, if you think that would diminish your embarrassment.

Paul Muro describes seeing a huge silver plane flying north towards the crash site.

That would be the illustrious, never known to be mistaken Paul Munro, would it?!

Theres 3 eyewitnesses.

Whoopee. Case closed!

Repeating that people are too stupid to know what they hear doesn't make it true.

Maybe not. But people not knowing what they hear does! Get it?!

Please provide physical proof that it was United Airlines Flight 93 that created the crater. Something that can be clearly identified at UA93 and then independently corroborated as such.

Er ... where do you suppose Flight 93 ended up - alien abduction or Shanksville Triange?! Other than an inside job they're the only two alternative, plausible explanations that I can think of!

 

[Southwind17]

TC - I'm with jonnyclueless. I think your theory as to what, exactly, did happen to Flight 93 is way overdue. It's all very well crying foul, but if at this stage in the game you have no rational, substantiated explanation for what did happen, then your opinions of what you believe didn't happen are pretty much worthless.