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CIT.....Time to call it a day

You've been told the answer to this twice now, yet you're still confused.

Your answer is they say the plane hit. You won't say anything about over the Navy Annex or NoC. That is what I am specifically calling you out on.

Sean Boger see the plane bank over the Navy Annex, Bob? yes or no
Sean Boger see the plane approach on the NoC, Bob? yes or no
Sean Boger see the plane uprooting light poles, Bob? yes or no
Levi Stephens see the plane uprooting light poles right in front of him, Bob? yes or no
Levi Stephens see the plane on the SoC or the NoC, Bob? yes or no

But that's not uncommon amongst you guys - Craig, with his hilarious denials of the bleedingly obvious deceptions in his USA Today Parade video, is certainly proving that just when you thought you'd scraped the bottom of the barrell, you break through and find another one underneath.

Blah blah blah. More of nothing.

And these guys kicked you out!

You can't be truthful on anything can you?
 
Your answer is they say the plane hit. You won't say anything about over the Navy Annex or NoC. That is what I am specifically calling you out on.
Dude, the questions that I asked Sean Boger acknowledge that he allegedly said that the plane was NoC. What aren't you getting here?

Sean Boger see the plane bank over the Navy Annex, Bob? yes or no
You know, I haven't actually heard him say that it was. Have you?

Sean Boger see the plane approach on the NoC, Bob? yes or no
Haven't heard him say this either. Have you?

Sean Boger see the plane uprooting light poles, Bob? yes or no
Have not heard it mentioned either. Have you?

Levi Stephens see the plane uprooting light poles right in front of him, Bob? yes or no
Have not heard it mentioned either. Have you?

Levi Stephens see the plane on the SoC or the NoC, Bob? yes or no
Have not heard it mentioned either. Have you?
 
Sean Boger saw the plane hit the building, Dom, yes or no?


Yes that is what he says. From over the Navy Annex on the NoC. If you hold me accountable to the impact I will hold you accountable to his flight path.

Do you dispute his flight path?
 
Dude, the questions that I asked Sean Boger acknowledge that he allegedly said that the plane was NoC. What aren't you getting here?


I don't trust you. You're some newb who popped up out of nowhere after Officer Roosevelt's testimony aired on Air America. What aren't you getting here?

You have no objectivity to any of this other than to trash Aldo & Craig without seeing whether or not there was any validity to their claims.

I'm hoping you're honest when (if) you get responses from Levi & Sean. If you don't then the Navy Annex / NoC flight path stands because the only reason you wouldn't get an answer is because you so biasedly poisoned the well.
 
TC said:
Wonder why we aren't hearing anything from Bob about this?
So, what do you wonder when someone repeatedly refuses to address this?
me said:
how do you separate those [witnesses] who actually manage to tell it like it really happened, and those who are adamant their memory is correct, but don't really remember it right? How do you separate a real memory from a false memory? Do you have anything more substantial than gut feelings?

Where do you turn to, to separate real memories from false ones?

So far, you've only managed to turn to other (cherrypicked) witnesses, therefore other real or false memories. Where does the cycle end?
Perhaps now, that you're apparently no longer allowed to play in WAldwin & Lyte's treefort, you'll finally be able to answer these above.

TC said:
Sean Boger see the plane bank over the Navy Annex, Bob? yes or no
Sean Boger see the plane approach on the NoC, Bob? yes or no
Sean Boger see the plane uprooting light poles, Bob? yes or no
Was Mr. Boger even able to see to the North of Citgo, TC? yes or no
Was there a tree in his way, TC? yes or no
Was there a tree in Mr. Wallace's and Mr. Skipper's way, TC? yes or no

TC said:
Levi Stephens see the plane uprooting light poles right in front of him, Bob? yes or no
Levi Stephens see the plane on the SoC or the NoC, Bob? yes or no
Was Mr. Stephens even in a position to make such a distinction, TC? yes or no

bobloblaw said:
...Craig, with his hilarious denials of the bleedingly obvious deceptions in his USA Today Parade video...
Light poles, eh? Want to really mess with their braincells? Ask them whether they've even considered the possibility, there were not 5 poles that got knocked down. Hint: pole #2.
 
Yes that is what he says. From over the Navy Annex on the NoC. If you hold me accountable to the impact I will hold you accountable to his flight path.

Do you dispute his flight path?
We're yet to hear his account of the flight path, Dom.
 
You have no objectivity to any of this other than to trash Aldo & Craig without seeing whether or not there was any validity to their claims.
I KNOW there's no validity to their claims, Dom. I am not fooled by their deliberate deceptions.

I'm hoping you're honest when (if) you get responses from Levi & Sean. If you don't then the Navy Annex / NoC flight path stands because the only reason you wouldn't get an answer is because you so biasedly poisoned the well.
How does Navy Annex/NoC flight path stand when we're yet to hear it?

In any case, if I receive a response from either of them and I have their permission to share it I'll gladly forward you a copy no matter what it says.

Is that fair?
 
Light poles, eh? Want to really mess with their braincells? Ask them whether they've even considered the possibility, there were not 5 poles that got knocked down. Hint: pole #2.
Not sure where you're going with that, I've always been pretty sure there were 5.
 
I KNOW there's no validity to their claims, Dom. I am not fooled by their deliberate deceptions.

So it's Craig & Aldo's "deception" when LaGasse, Turcious, & Brooks point to the NoC?

Right?


How does Navy Annex/NoC flight path stand when we're yet to hear it?

We've already heard the NoC from more than 1 witness and a lot more are to come. ;)

In any case, if I receive a response from either of them and I have their permission to share it I'll gladly forward you a copy no matter what it says.

Is that fair?

That's fair Bob. In fact I hope that if Sean & Levi send you replies denying that NoC and Navy Annex and ask you not to share it that you will share it with me. I will not forward/post it anywhere. I would serve just as an independent confirmation from "the other side". If Sean & Levi deny their accounts now I will publicly state so on my side of the fence where my words carry more weight than yours.

I'm looking forward to their responses.

And yes it was definitely 5 light poles.


celestrin said:
1) Was Mr. Boger even able to see to the North of Citgo, TC? yes or no
2) Was there a tree in his way, TC? yes or no
3) Was there a tree in Mr. Wallace's and Mr. Skipper's way, TC? yes or no
4) Was Mr. Stephens even in a position to make such a distinction, TC? yes or no

1) Yes
2) No
3) We're not discussing their accounts, I would have to review them.
4) Yes
 
So it's Craig & Aldo's "deception" when LaGasse, Turcious, & Brooks point to the NoC?

Right?
No, Aldo and Craig's deception is in how they cherry pick the evidence to support their case, and the fraudulent way in which they eliminate witnesses who are fatal to their assertion that the plane flew over the Pentagon.

The witnesses aren't saying the plane flew over the Pentagon, Dom (and not even the Roosevelt Roberts story fits the CIT theory), so they're not deceiving anyone.

In my view they have simply misremembered the flight path, or they have in fact deduced it's location after being asked to recall something that was previously unimportant to them.

The fact is, of CIT witnesses, all who were in a position to see both incidents claim to have seen both NoC and an impact. And it's kinda hard to spin Boger's account when he claims to have watched the plane impact with, fully enter and then explode inside the building.
 
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No, Aldo and Craig's deception is in how they cherry pick the evidence to support their case, and the fraudulent way in which they eliminate witnesses who are fatal to their assertion that the plane flew over the Pentagon.

Plus TC, Ranke, Aldo, and Balsamo cannot produce one eyewitness on the far side of the Pentagon who witnessed AA77 fly over and beyond the Pentagon. Neither will they address the question of what wreckage hundreds of people saw, removed, or sorted openly on the lawn of the Pentagon in the weeks after 9/11.

Note how TC has avoided those very questions in this thread alone.
 
Oh my god I can't handle it anymore.

Could someone who can handle being stupified for a few hours please have a look through this thread ( http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=144&st=105 ) and tell me where I've gone wrong please?

I am talking specifically about where they claim light poles 1-5 were on the USA Today Parade video in order to make it look like Sucherman could not have been in the position he claims he was.

It's my (and Stinkey's) assertion that they have misidentified all of the poles, and have actually picked poles that are further to the south than the ones that were hit.

Ranke is in DENIAL OVERLOAD, and vigorously denies that Pole #1 is incorrect (Funnily enough, even Aldo said I was right about #3, #4 and #5 saying that he and Craig argued about it). Look at pages 7 and 8 of the thread to see how Craig somehow attempts to defend this, even calling me a liar twice!

For those who take the plunge and have a look, if you're trying to match the light poles in the videos and photos to Google Earth, just be aware that the northeastern clover turn off has been walled off since. The Google Earth images are from before Ranke's visit. This affects the real light pole #3 which is brought a few meters closer to the road.

Confused me for a while, I kept looking for the turn off in order to correctly plot other objects.
 
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I'm hoping you're honest when (if) you get responses from Levi & Sean. If you don't then the Navy Annex / NoC flight path stands because the only reason you wouldn't get an answer is because you so biasedly poisoned the well.

Wow, that is what we have all been saying since day one about your sleazy pals, Lyte and Aldo.

They clearly were leading their witnesses,. and clearly misrepresented themselves to obtain the interviews in the first place. What did the CIT boys erstwhile ally, Russell Pickering, say about them:

“When I watched you guys bending reality in person conjuring up black operations for everything that didn’t agree with you - I saw where this was going. When your partner tipped over and the forums melted down - it was clear what the motives were. But I do have to admit your dissociation from reality has exceeded what I thought possible… Ego is a blinding force .........”

I wouldn't trust those mutts to wash my car, let alone to honestly summarize their witnesses' testimony.
 
Dom,
Please stop playing the usual CIT game of "are you calling our witnesses liars".
No rational human reading this thread would believe that anyone is trashing your witnesses.
You are like a parrot with this.
Head back to the CIT treefort for reprogramming. Well that is if they allow you to play with them again.
 
I cannot believe this.

Craig is saying that I am lying in the thread I mentioned a few posts up and I am now being asked to concede or leave the forum.

WHAT. THE. ^$&#.
 
Okay Ranke has put up a challenge for anyone at JREF to prove him wrong about his placement of the light poles.

Read through the thread to come up to speed ( http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index...pic=144&st=105 ). All of the material you need is in the thread.

Apparently I just need one person to back me up on the notion that the pole that he has labelled as Pole #1 is actually in front of the camera mast and not behind it. He has posted sequences of photos (most notable on Page 8 of the thread), but there are also videos that show the pole going by. Check out (on their website) the USA Today Parade video and the CIT Jettin' Crosstown Part 2 video.

This is insane, I just cannot believe the denial.
 
I cannot believe this.

Craig is saying that I am lying in the thread I mentioned a few posts up and I am now being asked to concede or leave the forum.

WHAT. THE. ^$&#.
I saw that.
Unreal.
In their minds if they ban you then that proves 9-11 was an inside job.
I had one other question for you Bob.
Are you an undercover NWO operative?
I thought I would help clear the air because I sure Dom suspects this.
If so I have the lat/long to their treefort
They are used to seeing Bigwheels and Radio Flyers so that might be your best way in.
They are also used to those plastic GI Joe parachute toys so when you land just stand really really stiff so they think you are pretend.
 
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Haha.. Well, the work I perform is Government related, put it that way :)

Edit - I've saved every page of the thread on the CIT forum. This is one of the classics.
 
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