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Here is one rescue worker who was "in on it"

theauthor said:
I used to ask the same question but iv gotten used to JREF now.
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For years, you've peddled the same silly lies under dozens of names on every 9/11 site on the net. You've been drubbed soundly everywhere you go and you have never come close to producing a shred of real evidence for your deranged fantasies. Do you notice a trend?
 
Author, lets assume that there is a 50% chance that the guy was referring to a controlled demolition. Lets also assume there is a 50% chance he wasn't.

Given the weight of other supporting evidence from prior events, video and subsequent investigations, which scenario is more likely to be true?
 
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Tomblvd said:
As a "logical" conclusion to this "gotcha" quote insanity, I guess we can conclusively state that at least 20,000 people died in the twin towers collapse, because I heard MANY people say that the in the hours and days after the attack.
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OMG, that means that 17,000 people dashed in to plant the explosives by order of THEM were blown up (tricked of course) by the few people who knew the whole plan! They not only blew up the records in WTC 7 but also the people who planted the explosives, so they couldn't talk later! This is why no one is talking!!!!!!!!!!

/truther
 
And, oh yeah, I forgot:

Elizabeth I said:
And, finally, TA, would you please address this post from Myriad?
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Or, to save you the trouble of having to click on the link and all, here it is:

blow-up -- A sudden increase in fire intensity or rate of spread strong enough to prevent direct control or to upset control plans. Blow-ups are often accompanied by violent convection and may have other characteristics of a firestorm (see flare-up).
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- http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/fire/glossary.html
 
R.Mackey said:
Again, I explained this in the post you quoted. You must have seen it. Nevertheless, I will explain again.

Explosives used in demolition make one of two sounds. Either a firecracker string of explosions, or very large explosions, that occur before any structural motion.

This does not happen. There are many videos to choose from. Had this happened, it would have been heard in most if not all of them. There are none.
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The noise made by a collapse would be generated as the material hit the ground. The noise made by demolition would be heard before any collapse of material. It's safe to say that on an oscilloscope, the waveforms would be very different.
 
author, where are those at least 17,000 people we were told were dead that day?
 
WildCat said:
That's an easy one Russ. According to the Fire Department of New York the building had been completely engulfed by fire for several hours. It was leaning, there was a large kink in the roofline indicating structural failure, and one of the penthouses collapses completely into the building before the rest of the building came down completely.

I bolded those parts where "truthers" like to substitute "Bush" and "small isolated fires" as the case demands.


The editing of who knows what or how many videos into one video of "truth" do make it suspect, don't you think?
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Are you also aware of eyewitnesses including firefighters talking about "bombs" and "explosives".
How did you rule out the possibility of bombs and explosives for the "engulfed fire"?
 
And by his logic we can conclude that the WTC was demolished by locomotives since people said they heard locomotives. If it wasn't trains, then why would they say that?
 
pomeroo said:
The demolition professionals ruled out the posssibility of explosives when they failed to discover physical evidence--detonator caps, bits of wiring, chemical signatures, etc.
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Which demolition expert were on the WTC7 ruling out the evidence you mentioned. May be I missed it, Could you show me the source.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
Neither are explosives required to generate sounds... what kind of noise do you think an acre of concrete floor makes when it slams down onto another concrete floor with 200,000+ (dynamic load) tons of pressure?

Do you purposefully ignore other sources of sound?
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Elizabeth I said:
No, sometimes it is preceded by an earthquake, or a tornado, or a hurricane, or by planes flying into the building in question, or by fire, or by large chunks of another building falling on it, or several of those elements in combination or in succession.

How can so many people be so sap-skulled and thick-headed at the same time?
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There are eyewitnesses including firefighters talking about "bombs" and "explosives" .

So how did you differentiate sound due to bombs/explosives FROM other causes of sound such as collapse of building.
 
Russ_Dalton said:
There are eyewitnesses including firefighters talking about "bombs" and "explosives" .

So how did you differentiate sound due to bombs/explosives FROM other causes of sound such as collapse of building.
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As I've been saying, there are also many statements from that day that over 20,000 people died.

Where are the bodies?
 
Russ_Dalton said:
Are you also aware of eyewitnesses including firefighters talking about "bombs" and "explosives".
How did you rule out the possibility of bombs and explosives for the "engulfed fire"?
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Russ_Dalton said:
Which demolition expert were on the WTC7 ruling out the evidence you mentioned. May be I missed it, Could you show me the source.
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Russ_Dalton said:
There are eyewitnesses including firefighters talking about "bombs" and "explosives" .

So how did you differentiate sound due to bombs/explosives FROM other causes of sound such as collapse of building.
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http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/introduction

I know, I know, he's one of the NWO black ops sent out to mislead and deceive the sheeple.

Read it anyway. Just give it a try. You never know.
 
After seven years Troofer Trolls are reduced to pulling hyperbole, similes, and Metaphors out of their ass. No evidence. Jones for example is forced to sit on his data less he be exposed as the blatant liar he is. The punks, trolls and socks from Manchester and elsewhere are forced to buzz around here because they have nowhere more visible to go as troother sites have sunk below the horizon of attention. This isn't about truth, It isn't about exposing criminals. It isn't about justice. It is all about troofer ego. And finding a toe hold in a childish "Gotcha" game of winning a debate. And even at that they fail miserably. Those in the original troth movement with brain cells have examined the (lack of) evidence for conspiracy and moved on. Or grown up. And all that are left are the arrogant punks who must win any morsel of an argument at all costs. Keep posting trolls. You have a lot invested in your conspiracy blogs and conspiracy web pages and within your dwindling community of freaks, And we know you cannot let all that work go. You are doing our work for us as you post here to expose yourselves for the childish fools you are.
 
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R.Mackey said:
WTC 7 didn't "blow up." The individual was mistaken, or else you are ascribing a meaning to his words that he never intended.

Very simple.
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1) A lot of people say they're going to "blow up" a building when they demo it. Do you disagree with that?

2) He has prior knowledge. This indicates that it was timed. He knew it was coming down and when it was coming down. This is not indicative of a unexpected unpredicted fire induced collapse of a steel skyscraper which there was no precedent for before 9/11. Do you disagree?

3) There is a distinct difference between "blow up" and "collapse". Do you disagree?
 
Russ_Dalton said:
There are eyewitnesses including firefighters talking about "bombs" and "explosives" .

So how did you differentiate sound due to bombs/explosives FROM other causes of sound such as collapse of building.
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No, there are not. The only eyewitness that talks about bombs and explosives is Mr. William Rodriguez, and his account, if true, would refer to the period before impact, and have no bearing at all on the collapses.

All of the other accounts, if you read them carefully, accurately, and in context, do not describe bombs or explosives at all. As another poster noted, the concept of "simile" is essential here, but evidently lacking in your analysis.

I have also explained to you personally how to differentiate the sounds. Stop asking the same question over and over again.
 
Princess Di's Death Caused by Bomb!

Asked to describe the noise he heard, Mr Anderson said: “It was a very loud noise which sounded like an explosion...we came to a rapid stop and I slumped forward to one side, I saw an object passing in front of us and hit the right side of the tunnel, I immediately turned to see if there were cars coming up.

SUV Crash Caused by Bomb!

Neighbors said it sounded like an explosion.

Cruise Ship Bombed, Film at Eleven!!!

THE MAJESTIC CREEPS IN WITH ENGINE DISABLED; Cylinder Wrecked by an Accident on the Fourth. ENGINEERS WERE PLUCKY Worked Amid Escaping Steam -- Four Men Scalded -- Passengers Scared by What Sounded Like an Explosion

Bridge Bombed, Horse Dies!!!one!!

The rumor current on Friday night that an explosion had occurred on the bridge was explained yesterday by the bridge officials in the statement that a steel stay in the main truss of the bridge buckled with a cracking noise that sounded like an explosion. The buckling occurred at about 6 o'clock. At that hour a horse died on the south roadway and blocked the trolley cars for some time until it could be removed.

(check out the link, the story is from 1898!)
 
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