Here is one rescue worker who was "in on it"

[MarkyX]

Stop grasping at straws. He said that, amongst other things, on the CNN video. Nobody has spliced anything. If you want to claim they have then provide proof.

How come the video doesn't show the person's name? Usually when there is a quote like that, we are least told who it is.

As for the splicing bit, why are the streets from the 12 second mark so different? Why a fade from the top at the 14 second mark ? Why is the 38 second mark have the video of the WTC7 collapse, interrupting the reporter's speech?

 

[1337m4n]

How exactly do we know there were no sounds? There were people who described hearing such sounds. One described it as like a clap of thunder before the building caved out.

1) But did anyone hear this?

2) How do you explain the fact that no audio recordings pick up the sounds of demolitions?

3) How do you explain the fact that the seismic data all show that there were no demolitions?

 

[theauthor]

How come the video doesn't show the person's name? Usually when there is a quote like that, we are least told who it is.

As for the splicing bit, why are the streets from the 12 second mark so different? Why a fade from the top at the 14 second mark ? Why is the 38 second mark have the video of the WTC7 collapse, interrupting the reporter's speech?

Why would it show his name? They didnt interview him. They were just filming as he came along and said it to people.

 

[MarkyX]

Why would it show his name? They didnt interview him. They were just filming as he came along and said it to people.

The guy's holding the camera and giving orders, right? I like to know who he is. What street was he on? Why do you refuse to answer my other points?

 

[Russ_Dalton]

The NIST WTC 7 report is hardly the only source of information. We know there were no sounds or seismic indications of explosives. .........
What you are attempting to do is claim that, since this person said "blow up," then there were explosives involved. But we already know there weren't. There's no reason to consider this at all.

The video clearly shows sounds when the workers walk away from WTC7. Watch the video again.

How did you rule out the possibility that there were no explosives?

 

[Elizabeth I]

He was mistaken? Hw did he manage that?

You have to manage to be mistaken? I must be extremely talented then, because I'm mistaken all the time with no effort at all.

And, as far as the statement in the OP is concerned, even if the individual in question did say what you say he said, and even if he meant what you say he meant, why is he apparently the only one among the hundreds of firefighters, EMTs, and police who were there that day to say any such thing? Could he have been...oh, I don't know...mistaken?

And, finally, TA, would you please address this post from Myriad?

Or perhaps there's also a firefighting jargon meaning of the phrase "blow up" that has nothing to do with explosives or explosions? Nah, couldn't be.

 

[332nd]

No, it isn't a figure of speech.

Yes it is.

Can you find me a single example anywhere, apart from this one, where someone describes the collapse of a building as "blowing up"?

http://board.spawn.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-419685.html

My house blew up sale...

Not good enough? How about this?

blow-up -- A sudden increase in fire intensity or rate of spread strong enough to prevent direct control or to upset control plans. Blow-ups are often accompanied by violent convection and may have other characteristics of a firestorm.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/fire/glossary.html

ETA: Whoops! Missed that one by Myriad.

 

[Bobert]

Why did he say it was about to blow up?

I can only SPECULATE like you are doing right now.
Why this game of asking us why he said that?
Do you think that maybe based on years of experience and training that they suspected the building was about to come down.
Maybe he used the word "blow up" figuratively?
After all his job was to protect lives and maybe he used this term because it gets people attention and gets people moving thereby accomplishing his goal of saving lives?
You do realize that alot of people used the words "blew up" "exploded" that day but they weren't implying controlled demolition?
They were simply descriptive words.
I will now let you get back to your trolling.

 

[Russ_Dalton]

1) But did anyone hear this
youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ ?

2) How do you explain the fact that no audio recordings pick up the sounds of demolitions?

3) How do you explain the fact that the seismic data all show that there were no demolitions?

(1) and (2) Go to imlplosionworld.com > click "Cinema explosif". Explain to me why every controlled demolition is different from each other. Why are the sounds in those controlled demolitions different from the video you posted.

(3) Does every explosion record a seismic data?

 

[Bobert]

Stop grasping at straws. He said that, amongst other things, on the CNN video. Nobody has spliced anything. If you want to claim they have then provide proof.

Why is it that truthers only care about proof and evidence when it supports their fantasy?

 

[Elizabeth I]

1) But did anyone hear this?

2) How do you explain the fact that no audio recordings pick up the sounds of demolitions?

3) How do you explain the fact that the seismic data all show that there were no demolitions?

2) They've been edited out by THEM.

3) They've been suppressed by THEM.

 

[MarkyX]

The video clearly shows sounds when the workers walk away from WTC7. Watch the video again.

Again, what is the name of the person? What street? Why was there so many cuts during the video? A real news report doesn't have 20 different camera angles within a minute.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Even if they feared collapse, how could he know it would be that imminent?

Maybe he didn't. Once you've come to the conclusion that a building is likely to collapse, whether you think it'll collapse in the next ten minutes or the next ten hours, you don't hang around in its shadow.

 

[tsig]

He didnt just say blow up, he said "about to". How did he know that? Even if they feared collapse, how could he know it would be that imminent? Nobody, especially a proffessional like that, would describe a feared collapse as "about to blow up"....unless he knew it was about to blow up.

WOW! He knew. Yet he remains silent. It speaks louder than words.

 

[JimBenArm]

Why did he say "blow up"? Because they were getting ready to inflate the building with helium so it would float. They were planning to use it as a giant balloon in the next Macy's parade. Sadly, the building collapsed before it was fully inflated, and foiled their plan.

Any other stupid questions that need not be answered?

 

[chillzero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CXQY-bZn4

"We are walking back because the building is about to blow up"

How did he know building 7 was about to "blow up"?

The building was on fire, and at that time they may not have known what had fallen into it from the other towers, since something clearly did.

Maybe he believed it was about to blow up, due to fuel, power, etc contained inside it.

Maybe he said it because he believed it. It's not the same as knowing it.

Why do you think he said it? Do you think he was telling the cameramen that he had just finished planting bombs all over the place, or something?

 

[R.Mackey]

The video clearly shows sounds when the workers walk away from WTC7. Watch the video again.

How did you rule out the possibility that there were no explosives?

Yes, sounds of the collapse itself. Not sounds consistent with explosives.

I explained the answer to your question in the very post you quoted. Your conduct is quite puzzling.

 

[Dave_46]

No, it isn't a figure of speech.
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You have made a definite statement there. What is your evidence for this assertion?

Dave

 

[Tomblvd]

This is nothing more than another game of "gotcha". Using the people directly involved in the tragedy as props.

Just like yesterdays thread where t.a. and another tried to make the argument that the towers disintegrated into nothing but dust becuase a firefighter, right afterwards, said the building crumbled to dust.

On the strength of that ONE hyperbolic statment, they stated as absolute, unassailable fact that the towers crumbled to nothing but dust.

Big hunks of concrete and steel notwithstanding.

 

[Russ_Dalton]

Again, what is the name of the person? What street? Why was there so many cuts during the video? A real news report doesn't have 20 different camera angles within a minute.

You could clearly (1) hear a explosion type sound (2) see the worker look back and say to effect of - "its blowing". You'd like to comment on that part?

That part doesn't have any cuts. Are you saying the video is fake?