Nope. What I am saying is RIP CIT.Haha, I'm not sure I understand, are you saying I should deposit this **** somewhere else?
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CIT.....Time to call it a day
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Horatius
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Good work Bob. It's important that these CT fantasists be reminded every once in a while that there are real people involved in these events, and that they may not take kindly to being a prop in some weirdos' pet fantasy.
jhunter1163
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I guess we can make that 11 witnesses now.
I don't know if this has been suggested yet.
I was wondering if any of the pilots here have access to a 757/767 simulator and are willing to attempt to fly the various CIT and pffft scenarios? And possibly videotape the results for posterity? I would love to see that.
I was wondering if any of the pilots here have access to a 757/767 simulator and are willing to attempt to fly the various CIT and pffft scenarios? And possibly videotape the results for posterity? I would love to see that.
The Big Dog
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Yes, very interesting. Lyte, a few questions come to mind:
1. What did Morin say when you told him that the plane did not hit the pentagon?
2. Given that Morin earlier said that plane was going between 350 and 400 knots [400 to 460 mph] where did the 535 mph speed come from?
3. Why does CIT question his self-corroborated testimony regarding the flight path being parallel to the annex?
4. Why has CIT dropped the NOC theory and is pursuing the north of Columbia Pike/Over the Navy Annex theory (I don't really expect an answer to this, of course, I just got a kick out of the fact that he is our first NCP/OTNA witness instead of a NOC witness. PSST, JFK draw a line "parallel to the South Edge of the annex" to the pentagon, It goes South of Citgo! Bark bark lap dog!)
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BTW Craig What you posted about Terry Morin is MEANINGLESS.
YOU have ZERO QUOTES from him?
Why did you not quote what he said?
Do you have a written statement from Terry?
Do you have a recorded stateement from Terry?
Oh wait a second.........
WOW a whole hour?
Did you go to where Terry was on 9-11?
Did he provide you with additional people to speak with?
Did he provide you with anyone to confirm what he told you?
Craig you have a bunch of "he told me".
Anyone can see this is not a professional and thorough investigation.
This does go along with what Aldo has said about CIT not have credentials.
You then say this
NO CRAIG HE IS NOT CONFIRMED!
It is your word ONLY this does not amount to "confirmation".
So Terry commented about the "physical damage"?
How does Terry specifically contradict the "physical damage"?
Does he know that you are twisting what he may or may not have told you to draw this conclusion?
How does he contradict the "official data" when you yourself claim in the beginning of your post that:
You seem to be cherry picking and twisting what he may or may not have told you.
Did you record the conversation so that later you could make clear and succint notes?
Do you have a transcript of the order of the questions along with his response?
I will give you credit though Criag because at least you can hold a conversation without resulting in threats and name calling like your cohorts Aldo and Dom.
I see that Aldo has started his antics and no doubt will be insulting the threatening people before long.
Hi JFK!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU have ZERO QUOTES from him?
Why did you not quote what he said?
Do you have a written statement from Terry?
Do you have a recorded stateement from Terry?
Oh wait a second.........
WOW a whole hour?
Did you go to where Terry was on 9-11?
Did he provide you with additional people to speak with?
Did he provide you with anyone to confirm what he told you?
Craig you have a bunch of "he told me".
Anyone can see this is not a professional and thorough investigation.
This does go along with what Aldo has said about CIT not have credentials.
You then say this
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NO CRAIG HE IS NOT CONFIRMED!
It is your word ONLY this does not amount to "confirmation".
So Terry commented about the "physical damage"?
How does Terry specifically contradict the "physical damage"?
Does he know that you are twisting what he may or may not have told you to draw this conclusion?
How does he contradict the "official data" when you yourself claim in the beginning of your post that:
You seem to be cherry picking and twisting what he may or may not have told you.
Did you record the conversation so that later you could make clear and succint notes?
Do you have a transcript of the order of the questions along with his response?
I will give you credit though Criag because at least you can hold a conversation without resulting in threats and name calling like your cohorts Aldo and Dom.
I see that Aldo has started his antics and no doubt will be insulting the threatening people before long.
Hi JFK!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Big Dog
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"Why don't you man up and come over and ask him, 16.5 IQ?"
Because your Lap Dog will ban me, Aldo. Don't be obtuse. He already banned my ISP, even though I never tried to join. I get through only by Proxies.
So: ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
Here is another:
4. When will Lyte post his notes from the conversation?
Here is an aside: Levi Stephens: "This morning when I woke up I had a reply from him that contained the above quote and now his picture is missing from their website."
True or False?
Oh yeah: When one of your ANC witnesses placed the plane 800 feet away hitting the Pentagon, why did you misrepresent his statement and move it over the parking lot right outside his window?
Questions, questions, questions....
/"16.5 IQ." Child.
Because your Lap Dog will ban me, Aldo. Don't be obtuse. He already banned my ISP, even though I never tried to join. I get through only by Proxies.
So: ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
Here is another:
4. When will Lyte post his notes from the conversation?
Here is an aside: Levi Stephens: "This morning when I woke up I had a reply from him that contained the above quote and now his picture is missing from their website."
True or False?
Oh yeah: When one of your ANC witnesses placed the plane 800 feet away hitting the Pentagon, why did you misrepresent his statement and move it over the parking lot right outside his window?
Questions, questions, questions....
/"16.5 IQ." Child.
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The Big Dog
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"16.5 IQ" Again? What, Lyte, are you 12?
I'm sorry, I'll not be joining CIT. The crickets there are deafening. Of course, by asking me to sign up over there, one might assume that you are ducking the questions. They are:
1. What did Morin say when you told him the plane did not hit the pentagon?
2. Morin already said the speed of the plane, why the fake new revelation?
3. Why do you throw out his testimony the the plane was parallel?
4. When you gonna publish your notes?
5. Did Levi contact you and tell you to delete his info from your site?
6. Why did you misrepresent the fact that your ANC witness said the plane was 800 feet away?
new one:
7. Why did you intentionally delete the ANC band member's reference to the missing man formation flyover?
/I'd join LC and post them there, but I don't think JFK is gonna let me, now are you JFK? Well, that answers that.
I'm sorry, I'll not be joining CIT. The crickets there are deafening. Of course, by asking me to sign up over there, one might assume that you are ducking the questions. They are:
1. What did Morin say when you told him the plane did not hit the pentagon?
2. Morin already said the speed of the plane, why the fake new revelation?
3. Why do you throw out his testimony the the plane was parallel?
4. When you gonna publish your notes?
5. Did Levi contact you and tell you to delete his info from your site?
6. Why did you misrepresent the fact that your ANC witness said the plane was 800 feet away?
new one:
7. Why did you intentionally delete the ANC band member's reference to the missing man formation flyover?
/I'd join LC and post them there, but I don't think JFK is gonna let me, now are you JFK? Well, that answers that.
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I have stopped posting on LC because of how JFK admits (he calls me a liar over this but it was a simple misunderstanding I have no intention of correcting) he will apply biased standards. He rationalises this with "at least these people are doing something". The same attitude in the case of Holocaust Denial would likely be abhored by everyone involved.
Regardless, I am interested to know how CIT can reconcile the apparent fact that the absolute best possible case for NoC requires at least a 45 degree bank. My guess is they will simply ignore it.
Regardless, I am interested to know how CIT can reconcile the apparent fact that the absolute best possible case for NoC requires at least a 45 degree bank. My guess is they will simply ignore it.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/339022/4/
There is a lot of dolts over there. When you post numbers they all make up dumber stories and talk more about how your numbers are wrong but fail to produce the numbers. I think radius has them perplexed, just as parallel did. .
JFK posts a bank angle with no parameters. How can he use JFK as his avatar, when he make dirt dumb posts about flying? What an insult to JFK. If he would look above his 23 degree bank (which was never made by 77), the other post above his requires over 50 degree of bank to make. CIT, and the woo posters at LCF are challenged on flying, they need to join p4t.
They have no clue about flying and fail to understand 9/11 after 6 years. They are taking failure to a new level, by perfecting and perpetuating failure.
Why should they bother with math and physics when they have pure hearsay and fantasy? Is SPreston having a contest with others to see who can post the dumbest ideas?
So it is magic to SPreston a plane can accelerate from 318 KIAS to 463 KIAS (526 mph) in 3.3 miles. (does he realize planes have to go from zero to 180 KIAS in less than two miles to take off?) Funny stuff, SPreston calls reality, magic. What does he call his own work?
ps. maximum bank angle (roll angle) in the last 27-30 seconds was 8.8 degrees. Sorry for JFK, he failed to get in the ball park on his estimate of bank. Guess he failed to research 9/11 issue before posting. A turn radius of 74,000 feet at that time. (the low bank angle 77 flew, confirmed by witness statements)
There is a lot of dolts over there. When you post numbers they all make up dumber stories and talk more about how your numbers are wrong but fail to produce the numbers. I think radius has them perplexed, just as parallel did. .
JFK posts a bank angle with no parameters. How can he use JFK as his avatar, when he make dirt dumb posts about flying? What an insult to JFK. If he would look above his 23 degree bank (which was never made by 77), the other post above his requires over 50 degree of bank to make. CIT, and the woo posters at LCF are challenged on flying, they need to join p4t.
They have no clue about flying and fail to understand 9/11 after 6 years. They are taking failure to a new level, by perfecting and perpetuating failure.
Why should they bother with math and physics when they have pure hearsay and fantasy? Is SPreston having a contest with others to see who can post the dumbest ideas?
Being an idiot comes to mind why he can't imagine? You first used a number out of the blue, 379 mph came from where? Thin air? Do you understand anything? The terrorist pilots pushed the throttle to the firewall at 9:37:17, and 318 KIAS, at 9:37:44, the plane was still at 100 percent (99/5/99.8 respectively) throttle going 463 KIAS. 27 seconds the plane was going faster because you fail to realize pushing up the throttles make the plane go faster. Does SPreston's failed speed comes from the RADES data, which the morons say is fake, making SPreston's idea failed before posted. 9:37:25 the plane was going about the average of the RADES data last three points. SPreston has no real cognitive abilities with respect to flying and 9/11.
So it is magic to SPreston a plane can accelerate from 318 KIAS to 463 KIAS (526 mph) in 3.3 miles. (does he realize planes have to go from zero to 180 KIAS in less than two miles to take off?) Funny stuff, SPreston calls reality, magic. What does he call his own work?
ps. maximum bank angle (roll angle) in the last 27-30 seconds was 8.8 degrees. Sorry for JFK, he failed to get in the ball park on his estimate of bank. Guess he failed to research 9/11 issue before posting. A turn radius of 74,000 feet at that time. (the low bank angle 77 flew, confirmed by witness statements)
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jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
From 0 to 180 knots (300 feet/sec) for take off (rounding off) in 10,000 feet
d=0.5at2deltaV=at=300t
d=0.5(300)t
t=67 seconds
Is that about right for a 757 Beachnut?
that's an acelleration of 5 f/s/s
heading to the Pentagon;
318 to 463 KIAS is 537f/s to 781 f/s
in 15000 feet (less than 3 miles) at an acelleration of 5 f/s/s
15000=537t+0.5(5)t2deltaV=at=5t=244
15000=(537+122)t
t=36 seconds
Please someone check my math
Hi JFK, seems that a 757 acellerating as such is very possible.
If you make statements and cannot back them up with any math to show you are not making idiotic speculations it just may confirm that you are making idiotic speculations.
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And that's accelerating on the level. If you get to lose altitude while you're doing it, I bet it accelerates faster.
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Can we please stop the forum cross posting bs. By all means disprove CITs bs (as if it needs disproving. Lyte and Aldo and their puppy JFK are doing a great job on their own) but if you want to say something to them, post there not here. Other than my minor nitpick...good thread
Arus808
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Can we please stop the forum cross posting bs. By all means disprove CITs bs (as if it needs disproving. Lyte and Aldo and their puppy JFK are doing a great job on their own) but if you want to say something to them, post there not here. Other than my minor nitpick...good thread
unfortunately, JFK has nearly banned everyone from here from being able to post there, and ALDO/CRAIG got themselves banned here for their constant breaking of rules.
Yes this "cross" forum/site bickering is a little too one-sided, and without context, we never know what is going on.
I would say that we relegate the stupid ideas of CIT to a BLOG instead; since they can't participate here, and we are playing telephone otherwise.
Blog is fine. Some of us haven't registered at the third incarnation of Loose With Truth forums. Reason being their bs has gotten very old and JFK is a supreme nazi idiot. No need to cross post here. If I wanted to read LC crap I would have registered there again.