JEROME - Black holes do not exist

[SeanDamnit]

So has JDG been around lately? I'm curious to know what he believes is the alternate explanation to the phenomenon we normally associate with gravity.

 

[MattusMaximus]

My opinion that even difficult subjects can be explained (in general terms) by people who really understand the topic using straightforward language has again been strengthened. I particularly liked the solid/gas/liquid analogy.
Thanks again.

That's groovy

It's the second (seemingly third) time I've been thanked for that analogy. Too bad I cannot claim it as my own... that credit must go to Professor Ed Dorman of Western Kentucky University.

 

[arthwollipot]

So has JDG been around lately? I'm curious to know what he believes is the alternate explanation to the phenomenon we normally associate with gravity.

He's been posting in other threads, but I think he may have abandoned this one.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

So has JDG been around lately? I'm curious to know what he believes is the alternate explanation to the phenomenon we normally associate with gravity.

Gravity is the term we use to explain a supposed force which we can not measure or control.

 

[arthwollipot]

Gravity is the term we use to explain a supposed force which we can not measure or control.

I've quoted it before, but I'll quote it again. While it is true that all answers are responses, it is not true that all responses are answers. You didn't answer the (implied) question.

What is the alternate explanation for the phenomenon we normally associate with gravity?

 

[Shalamar]

He's been posting in other threads, but I think he may have abandoned this one.

I think he dislikes having to talk about science (which he claims to be religion) without a shred of evidence to support his "claims".

 

[Paulhoff]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Gravity is the term we use to explain a supposed force which we can not measure or control.

I've quoted it before, but I'll quote it again. While it is true that all answers are responses, it is not true that all responses are answers. You didn't answer the (implied) question.

What is the alternate explanation for the phenomenon we normally associate with gravity?

He is saying we can not measure gravity, he is troll.

Paul

 

[Shalamar]

He is saying we can not measure gravity, he is troll.

Paul

I really wonder why he makes baseless claims like that.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

He is saying we can not measure gravity, he is troll.

Please Paul, how does one measure the force of gravity?

Not the relationship of objects to one another, the force of gravity.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I really wonder why he makes baseless claims like that.

Please Shalamar, how does one measure the force of gravity?

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

What is the alternate explanation for the phenomenon we normally associate with gravity?

I do not have one. This has no bearing on the fact that gravity is an unmeasurable force that can not be controlled.

Do we know that gravity is a force?

 

[Upchurch]

Gravity is the term we use to explain a supposed force which we can not measure or control.

Don't be silly. Of course we can measure gravity. And of course, there are a number of ways we use gravity.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Don't be silly. Of course we can measure gravity. And of course, there are a number of ways we use gravity.

That is measuring the relation of one body to another.

That is not the measure of the force called gravity.


Control and use have different meanings. Would you like me to post them?

 

[Upchurch]

how does one measure the force of gravity?

Numerous ways, but don't let that stop you from sticking to your preconceived notions and ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

 

[Upchurch]

That is not the measure of the force called gravity.

Control and use have different meanings. Would you like me to post them?

I would like you to define what you mean by "control gravity".

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Numerous ways, but don't let that stop you from sticking to your preconceived notions and ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

You should give up soon.


That is measuring the relation of one body to another.

That is not the measure of the force called gravity.

 

[Upchurch]

That is measuring the relation of one body to another.

That is not the measure of the force called gravity.

How do you measure magnetic force, Jerome? (I assume you think other forces can be measured, otherwise why ask how the force of gravity can be measured.)

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I would like you to define what you mean by "control gravity".

To regulate.

To have the power over.


Let me know when you can stop, start, and control the amount of gravity.

 

[arthwollipot]

Let me know when you can stop, start, and control the amount of gravity.

Let me know when you can stop, start and control the amount of the strong or the weak nuclear force.

The fact that we can control the force of electromagnetism (and that only to a certain extent) is the odd one out here, Jerome. Three out of the four fundamental forces are outside our control.

 

[Upchurch]

Let me know when you can stop, start, and control the amount of gravity.

Easy, but first you need to understand how we control other semi-fundamental forces.

We can magnetize objects by applying an electrical current. We can stop the magnetic force by removing the current. The strength of the magnetic force depends (all other things being equal) on the strength of the current.

Likewise, we can start a gravitational force by introducing mass to the system. We can stop gravitational force by removing mass from the system. The strength of the gravitational force is proportional to the amount of mass.

We control the amount of gravity in the space shuttle by strictly controlling the amount of mass contained in it.