That is due to the fact Barrett's insane ideas on 9/11 are like arguing with a Lock Ness Monster believer, or a Bigfoot believer. They are insane, how do you argue with idiots who jump from one fact challenged idea to the next never presenting evidence! It is impossible to keep up with their ideas, they are dolts who believe it is so because they say it is.
CIT and p4t have no evidence, they also have the motto, "we have no theory"! They are pure hearsay speculation experts who are too fact challenged to form rational conclusions. Why? What is wrong with them?
Please, if you have heard a rational idea backed with evidence from these fact challenged beings, present them.
List their rational ideas on 9/11, and the evidence. You will find not one thing!
They calculated 11.2 Gs with the most pathetically perverted version of math and physics I have seen. Bad, you can not correct it, you have to do your own version. It turned out the 11.2 G fantasy math mess up could be done with less than 1.7 Gs.
How do you debate pure garbage from fact challenged beings? You can not teach them physics in an hour. The conclusions they draw on witnesses is pathetic. Have you seen how bad their analysis is?
No one needs to show up to tell what really happen on 9/11, the cit, p4t and Barrett, will debunk themselves. Their ideas are so far out it is self critiquing. I have exposed ordinary people to their statements, they call them nut cases, pure stupid and other names for intelligence levels lower than dirt. When I tell them a few of them make money off of their idea, they understand it is standard old snake oil salesmen, updated to the internet.
I wonder if CIT actually believe their ideas. I mean non-paths. Do they have any new non-paths. What is it, p4t had to coach them not to commit to any paths NOC. You have to remember, p4t have zero theories on 9/11. They also have zero evidence. A clean slate.
Who believes cit and p4t? Their membership has never taken off. Their most famous member believe aliens live among us, and he has as much evidence for his ideas as p4t and cit have for their implications of pathetic conclusions which they can not make because they have no official theory.
The most fact challenged idea they push, the silliest notion, is their calling everyone who understands 9/11 events, government loyalists, or government apologist; what is the term they use. It makes them looks so fact challenged.
I can see air america now; will you debate some people who think 77 did not hit the Pentagon? What? Are you nuts? Who would debate nut case ideas?
p4t co founder use to come here to post, but he can not play by the rules. He has an issue with facts and evidence, if you use them he bans you at p4t, and here he blew up and got mad; self destructed. He comes back and has copies of all my erased secret posts. He is paranoid; an over the hill pilot like me, but he must of be grounded for being paranoid fact challenged and not able to handle criticism; is he still grounded?
The leader of the p4t does not know the number of feet in a nautical mile, he does not know the frequency band a radio altimeter works at. These are things kids can look up on the internet. He is going to use what you say against you instead of sticking to the facts; oops cit and p4t have no facts! Well, what can they do but make up stories of how they have something about 9/11, but wait; p4t have no theories! They are too challenged to figure out what the passengers on flight 93 figured out in minutes. The p4t are not able to do math after 6 years! Yep, a fifth grader can look up a few terms and know more than the entire aviation knowledge of the leader of the pack at p4t. You have to log in to see the forum at p4t, they have to bump their numbers some how. Their phone up expert on a FDR is a salesman. They have attracted about 0.00001 percent of all pilots to join their non-theory bad math/physics club. Or is it less?
Funny, what will they do present their evidence; oops, that took zero time!
11.2 G error man must be a slow typist. He thinks JREF is wasting time thinking about him. The 11.2 G physics expert, mr nautical mile must understand he is the one pushing the false information, or at least implication of false conclusion, (since he does not have a theory or conclusion) and skeptics are happy to expose his false ideas. It is ironic he calls others names without cause, yet misses why he is labeled a snake oil salesman. Irony.
I can see most the time will be spent on the only fact they will have, one came to debate their fantasy ideas. Wowzer;
Ron is too calm when he is with total fact challenged expert like p4t and cit. Or will they ever show up in NYC?
No need to personally attack cit or p4t, they have no facts and no evidence. The proof is they have zero theories, no conclusions, they just sell DVDs to others and plug their web sites. Pilots for truth, are not for truth, they are for selling DVDs; CIT, the Citizen investigation team is the same, selling false information to willing buyers. Their own witnesses debunk them, and if a witness does not support their ideas, they are a government agent. Paranoid stuff, if you do lots of drugs, you may fall for the ideas of cit and p4t.
