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Info about DNA recovery at WTC?

I confess to some curiosity: How DID the FBI positively identify the hijackers?

Obviously they must have presented some evidence to support their claims, right?

They had phone calls from people on all four of the planes who were able to identify the seats of the Hijackers. They matched them with the flight mansifest to gain the names of the Hijackers. Added to that they had the rental cars and some luggage at the various airports, then worked their way back from there. Footage from the security checkpoints and eye wittnesses from the check-ins at the various airports helped too.

The really sad thing is that boozos like those we have picking nits here make a mockery of people like the poor woman who worked as a check-in operator at Boston for AA. After 9-11 she was so upset by the fact she checked in Atta and the others that she killed herself, and we have a bunch of incompetent jerks who make light of that sort of tradgey.
 
Feel free to explain how a "retarded" person could gain a master's degree in International Business from London's South Bank University.

How do you know which personality earned the Masters, which one is the terrorist and which one is retarded? I admit you got me there. LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4920512.stm

Zacarias Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic, a defence witness has told the jury in his sentencing trial in the US state of Virginia.

yawn... looks like the Gov't picking on the mentally ill for a patsy. You think?

Bollocks, his "confession" was totally opposed to what the case against him was. He was convicted because the Jury didn't buy his ever changing and bizarre story but rather accepted the Prosecution's version.

Bollocks would be you not being able to come up with any positive ID of the hijackers so you make a lame attempt to change the subject to Moussaoui.

You fail.


NEXT
 
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Hi LastChild and Sizzler.

1. Is your interest in the identification of the hijackers any part of the reason for your claimed support for a new investigation?

2a. If not, then what is the relevance of this issue, if you are in fact satisfied with that particular aspect of the investigations conducted so far?

2b. If so, then please state what evidence or line of inquiry related to determination of the hijackers' identities you believe has been overlooked in the investigations so far.

Please answer either question 2a or 2b, depending on your answer to question 1.

Or, feel free to ignore or evade these questions, in which case your real motivation for raising the issue here will become obvious.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
You continue to dazzle. DNA evidence, you appear to agree, is sufficiently powerful to overturn a conviction. But, it is worthless in making an identification. Can you resolve this contradiction?

http://911myths.com/html/hijackers_dna_profiles.html

Incidentally, if I were taking the punches you're soaking up, I might try squeaking "NEXT!" myself.

What is the DNA matched to genius? An unidentified person in a hotel and a rental car?

From your link at the lame 911myths...

The FBI had collected the DNA from tiny traces of skin on the steering wheels of vehicles hired by the hijackers and from hair samples recovered from their hotel rooms.

How were the couple of people in the hotel room and the rental car positively identified first? And how does this positively identify any never mind all 19 hijackers?

Do you even know why you fail? I mean how many times to I have to rub your nose in your mess before you get it and don't do it again?
 
The really sad thing is that boozos like those we have picking nits here make a mockery of people like the poor woman who worked as a check-in operator at Boston for AA. After 9-11 she was so upset by the fact she checked in Atta and the others that she killed herself, and we have a bunch of incompetent jerks who make light of that sort of tradgey.


Although I of course agree wholeheartedly that the so-called truthers are [rule8]ing on the graves of the victims, this particular story is a myth. See here.
 
How do you know which personality earned the Masters, which one is the terrorist and which one is retarded? I admit you got me there. LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4920512.stm

Zacarias Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic, a defence witness has told the jury in his sentencing trial in the US state of Virginia.

yawn... looks like the Gov't picking on the mentally ill for a patsy. You think?



Bollocks would be you not being able to come up with any positive ID of the hijackers so you make a lame attempt to change the subject to Moussaoui.

You fail.


NEXT

DEFENSE witness, ever hear of the incompetance to stand trial defense strategy?

You can stop projecting your failures onto others now
 
How do you know which personality earned the Masters, which one is the terrorist and which one is retarded? I admit you got me there. LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4920512.stm

Zacarias Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic, a defence witness has told the jury in his sentencing trial in the US state of Virginia.

I suggest you go learn the difference between "Retarded", "Dissociative Identity Disorder", and "Paranoid Schizophrenia."

looks like the Gov't picking on the mentally ill for a patsy. You think?

I think the fact he had emails from several AQ handlers and a money trail leading back to Ramzi in Germany beat your hand waving any day.



Bollocks would be you not being able to come up with any positive ID of the hijackers so you make a lame attempt to change the subject to Moussaoui.

You fail.


NEXT

If you plan to accuse me of failing, try not to mix me up with other posters. A W Smith brought up Moussaoui, I responded to your ballony. You are the failure here.
 
Hi LastChild and Sizzler.

1. Is your interest in the identification of the hijackers any part of the reason for your claimed support for a new investigation?

2a. If not, then what is the relevance of this issue, if you are in fact satisfied with that particular aspect of the investigations conducted so far?

2b. If so, then please state what evidence or line of inquiry related to determination of the hijackers' identities you believe has been overlooked in the investigations so far.

Please answer either question 2a or 2b, depending on your answer to question 1.

Or, feel free to ignore or evade these questions, in which case your real motivation for raising the issue here will become obvious.

Respectfully,
Myriad

The relevance for me is when lurkers come by and watch me slapping you pretend debunkers around. It's fun.

Now feel free to go down the list of hijackers and show how they were positively identified.

Or continue to join in the community temper tantrum here with the rest of the pretend debunkers.
 
Although I of course agree wholeheartedly that the so-called truthers are [rule8]ing on the graves of the victims, this particular story is a myth. See here.

Well that's one thing that is nice to get wrong. After reading the article I bet that you wouldn't need more than one guess to where I heard it.
 
Well that's one thing that is nice to get wrong. After reading the article I bet that you wouldn't need more than one guess to where I heard it.

Don't sweat it. It's irrelevant anyway as far as positive identification of anyone.

NEXT
 
The relevance for me is when lurkers come by and watch me slapping you pretend debunkers around. It's fun.
you aint slapping anyone around Troll. You are losing, badly
Now feel free to go down the list of hijackers and show how they were positively identified.

Or continue to join in the community temper tantrum here with the rest of the pretend debunkers.

read the indictment, the paper trail is right there. the lurkers are reading it now. fool. They know where they went. They know who got what money. They know the rentals and rooms they stayed in, they were traced right up to the point of them boarding the plane during the investigation. some were even caught on surveillance video.
 
Any and all of you...

Go down the list of hijackers and show how they were all positively identified.

Or don't bother. I'll check back later.
 
Hi LastChild and Sizzler.

1. Is your interest in the identification of the hijackers any part of the reason for your claimed support for a new investigation?

2a. If not, then what is the relevance of this issue, if you are in fact satisfied with that particular aspect of the investigations conducted so far?

2b. If so, then please state what evidence or line of inquiry related to determination of the hijackers' identities you believe has been overlooked in the investigations so far.

Please answer either question 2a or 2b, depending on your answer to question 1.

Or, feel free to ignore or evade these questions, in which case your real motivation for raising the issue here will become obvious.

Respectfully,
Myriad


The relevance for me is when lurkers come by and watch me slapping you pretend debunkers around. It's fun.


So that means the lurkers are also watching you unable to answer this question:

What evidence or lines of inquiry related to determination of the hijackers' identities do you believe has been overlooked in the investigations so far?

(Feel free to list as many as you'd like.)

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
How do you know which personality earned the Masters, which one is the terrorist and which one is retarded? I admit you got me there. LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4920512.stm

Zacarias Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic, a defence witness has told the jury in his sentencing trial in the US state of Virginia.

yawn... looks like the Gov't picking on the mentally ill for a patsy. You think?


Three points. First, paranoid schizophreniaWP is not dissociative identity disorderWP. You fail.

Second, schizophrenics most certainly commit crimes and acts of terrorism. The Unabomber is just one example. You fail.

Third, as noted by several other people, you are a pathetic troll. You fail.
 
Sayin ain't provin.

I really don't think there's any point in anyone ever responding to LastChild directly. If you present him with evidence, he does what he did in this post: snips out the evidence from the quote, then pretends it was never there in the first place. He doesn't seem to realise that the evidence is still there in the original post, and it's only necessary to scroll up a page to see it. Faced with this staggering level of dishonesty, how can anyone ever take him seriously?

Dave
 
So most of you are attempting the following:

DNA was found in a rental car known to be rented by a suspected terrorist. The same DNA was found in a hotel room rented by a suspected terrorist.

Therefore, the DNA is most likely the terrorists.

Well, I am sorry to say but this is incorrect.

What if the terrorists traveled in pairs?

What if the terrorist hired a prostitute, or had a friend stay over.

What if another person rented the same car and the same hotel room.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to determine which DNA belonged to the terrorist.

IE it is IMPOSSIBLE to KNOW which DNA belonged to whom because a hotel room and rental car have TOO MANY possibilities. One cannot do a process of elimination on a hotel room. No one knows who exactly was there.

So this begs the question....

How were 10 "known" terrorist sames provided to the medical examiner?

It isn't like the FBI gave them a database of all hotel and rental car DNA and compared for a match. No, that didn't happen.

10 known DNA samples were provided, WITHOUT chain of custody documents.

You can't ignore this.
 
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