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So, everytime a Pope dies, the "Prophecy of the Popes" always comes up as a discussion topic on the media until the new pope gets elected, then it all falls down to oblivion until the next one kicks the bucket, and the cycle repeats.
Not familiar with the Prophecy of the Popes, you say?
Well, I'll explain you easily:
There was this guy. He was named St. Malachy. So-called prophet, he predicted Irish oppretion from the British (Where he was right), and the conversion of the English back to catholicism (Where he was wrong).
So, apparently the guy made this bunch of prophecies with the description of every Pope from his era up to the end of the World. (Which would be 112). This was around the 12th century. Of course, he didn't say "Pope number 52 will be called XXX, and Pope Number 53 will be called YYY", and so on. If that would be the case, I would be converted to catholicism by now. He gave him descriptive mottos to each. For example, John Paul II had the motto "De Labori Solis" (Roughly translated by me as "The Labor of the Sun"). And so on, and so forth.
Because of his "amazing prophetic skills".
<believer>
He predicted with nearly 100% accuracy the early popes, and with a lot of accuracy the ones from our modern time.
</believer>
Now, most of people believe that the End of ze world is just ahead of us because our current pope, Benedict XVI is the pope number 111 (The number of the... pope?), if we count that one who died before he managed to get to the Pope chair, and the next one is ought to be "Petrus Romanus" (Peter the Roman, as accurate as I can get with my basic latin. Note that none of the popes ever chose "Peter II" due to respect of the poor apostle), according to his last "verse", which is supposed to be the last pope, and then, bam, Armageddon. He also predicts the destruction of Rome, etc etc.
Also, the "Basílica de San Pablo Extramuros" of Rome. They have a room filled with gigantic medallions, where people have painted a face of the Pope and the time of their reign after they died. There's only one left, and it's reserved to Benedict XVI. Tourist guides say that when Benedict XVI kicks the bucket the World will end. Oh, dear
They are WAY too vague.
Consider this:
-The prophecy was apparently made on the 12th century (Between 1094 and 1148, the lifetime of Malachy, although I don't believe that he knew how to write when he was 1 year old).
-Now, the prophecies were made public around 1590 (give or take a few years), where this guy made a biography of St. Malachy, and said he "found the prophecies locked in the Roman Archives".
Remember how I told you that the prophecies were nearly flawless on the early popes?
Because, the prophecies start to get vague at around 1600, after the release of the "hidden prophecies".
JPII motto, "From the Labor of the Sun", can be considered as a post-diction, because, it could be rather because his father traveled around the Earth (Like the Sun, if we see the prophecy as "Pre-Copernicus"), or the fact that he apparently was born and died both on a solar eclipse, or this, or that, or the other thing, etc etc.
Same goes for Benedict XVI. His motto is "De gloria olivae" (Glory of the olive) which looks like a post-diction, as well. It could rather be from the Benedictine order (Benedict=Benedictine, good call, perhaps? No, as only 7 names have been used recently. Benedict XVI said that he uses his current name because he wants to follow Benedict XV's theological conservatism), as they had an olive on their coat of arms. It could also mean to have an olive in Benedict's coat of arms, or having an "olive complexion" (Latino or Black). It could also have meant that he came from an olive farm, or whatever.
Or he could have AT LEAST had the kindness to put on the prediction that John Paul I was going to live a month after his papal reign. And nope, he just said "De Medietate Lunae", which, again, my rough latin could say that it says "Of the middle of the Moon", or "In the middle of the Moon".
Last, but not least, the last prediction (Petrus Romanus, Armageddon, blah, blah, blah) wasn't on the original "release" of the prophecy. It seems that it was added after 1820, as the other "editions" of the prophecy do not show this.
I came up with this post after I heard rumors on the radio that Benedict XVI was "on a grave condition". I just noticed around the middle of writing this post that the report was not true.
So, what are your thoughts on this?
Not familiar with the Prophecy of the Popes, you say?
Well, I'll explain you easily:
There was this guy. He was named St. Malachy. So-called prophet, he predicted Irish oppretion from the British (Where he was right), and the conversion of the English back to catholicism (Where he was wrong).
So, apparently the guy made this bunch of prophecies with the description of every Pope from his era up to the end of the World. (Which would be 112). This was around the 12th century. Of course, he didn't say "Pope number 52 will be called XXX, and Pope Number 53 will be called YYY", and so on. If that would be the case, I would be converted to catholicism by now. He gave him descriptive mottos to each. For example, John Paul II had the motto "De Labori Solis" (Roughly translated by me as "The Labor of the Sun"). And so on, and so forth.
- So, why do the people believe on the prophecies?
Because of his "amazing prophetic skills".
<believer>
He predicted with nearly 100% accuracy the early popes, and with a lot of accuracy the ones from our modern time.
</believer>
Now, most of people believe that the End of ze world is just ahead of us because our current pope, Benedict XVI is the pope number 111 (The number of the... pope?), if we count that one who died before he managed to get to the Pope chair, and the next one is ought to be "Petrus Romanus" (Peter the Roman, as accurate as I can get with my basic latin. Note that none of the popes ever chose "Peter II" due to respect of the poor apostle), according to his last "verse", which is supposed to be the last pope, and then, bam, Armageddon. He also predicts the destruction of Rome, etc etc.
Also, the "Basílica de San Pablo Extramuros" of Rome. They have a room filled with gigantic medallions, where people have painted a face of the Pope and the time of their reign after they died. There's only one left, and it's reserved to Benedict XVI. Tourist guides say that when Benedict XVI kicks the bucket the World will end. Oh, dear
- But, what is the problem with these prophecies?
They are WAY too vague.
Consider this:
-The prophecy was apparently made on the 12th century (Between 1094 and 1148, the lifetime of Malachy, although I don't believe that he knew how to write when he was 1 year old).
-Now, the prophecies were made public around 1590 (give or take a few years), where this guy made a biography of St. Malachy, and said he "found the prophecies locked in the Roman Archives".
Remember how I told you that the prophecies were nearly flawless on the early popes?
Because, the prophecies start to get vague at around 1600, after the release of the "hidden prophecies".
JPII motto, "From the Labor of the Sun", can be considered as a post-diction, because, it could be rather because his father traveled around the Earth (Like the Sun, if we see the prophecy as "Pre-Copernicus"), or the fact that he apparently was born and died both on a solar eclipse, or this, or that, or the other thing, etc etc.
Same goes for Benedict XVI. His motto is "De gloria olivae" (Glory of the olive) which looks like a post-diction, as well. It could rather be from the Benedictine order (Benedict=Benedictine, good call, perhaps? No, as only 7 names have been used recently. Benedict XVI said that he uses his current name because he wants to follow Benedict XV's theological conservatism), as they had an olive on their coat of arms. It could also mean to have an olive in Benedict's coat of arms, or having an "olive complexion" (Latino or Black). It could also have meant that he came from an olive farm, or whatever.
Or he could have AT LEAST had the kindness to put on the prediction that John Paul I was going to live a month after his papal reign. And nope, he just said "De Medietate Lunae", which, again, my rough latin could say that it says "Of the middle of the Moon", or "In the middle of the Moon".
Last, but not least, the last prediction (Petrus Romanus, Armageddon, blah, blah, blah) wasn't on the original "release" of the prophecy. It seems that it was added after 1820, as the other "editions" of the prophecy do not show this.
I came up with this post after I heard rumors on the radio that Benedict XVI was "on a grave condition". I just noticed around the middle of writing this post that the report was not true.
So, what are your thoughts on this?
It's all lining up!
