[Moderated]List Of NYC Firefighters Who Think Bombs Brought Down The Towers

[WildCat]

Without reviewing that video of a firefighter complaining of the treatment all firefighters received after 9-11, I don't actually recall if John Schroeder ever said any such thing. Please correct me if I'm wrong and point to the section where he says the buildings collapsed by means of controlled demolition.

There's a video of him (interviewed by truthers) where he comes close, but doesn't actually say that. He comes across as suffering from PTSD to me, but I'm no psychiatrist. You can see the video on our favorite web site. Nearly 50 minutes long though...

 

[WildCat]

On the morning of September 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac, Jr. admitted that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job, the police know it’s an inside job, and the firemen know it too.”

We're very familiar with him, he used to post here under the name Sentinel. It would be a wonder if he managed to put a single coherent post together, but he was unable to in his time here.

 

[TC329]

So you don't think there were bombs in the towers, or you do think there were bombs but all the people there somehow didn't notice them?

LOL....... I'm sure there were bombs just in the hallways around the building. I haven't been able to figure out why people didn't walk into their office that morning saying "Holy ****** Look at the size of that bomb in the corner!!!!! I don't recall that being there yesterday".............

Lucky for you there isn't any sort of common sense test required for membership here. I can't figure out why the Urban Movers didn't just put bombs out in the open for everyone to discover instead of the core personally.

Maybe if we could talk to Dominic Suter he could explain it to us but he fled the country and there has been no efforts to extradite him. Go Chertoff!!!

 

[TC329]

We're very familiar with him, he used to post here under the name Sentinel. It would be a wonder if he managed to put a single coherent post together, but he was unable to in his time here.

Is he a liar?

 

[TC329]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htTJOeSN0u8

Here are a few (of many) quotes taken from the Oral Histories put online by the NYTimes.

Feel free to point out any you claim I have taken out of context. In the 12 months it's been online no one has proven I have taken anything out of context or twisted the words or misrepresented the statements by various 9/11 heroes.

 

[DC]

Without reviewing that video of a firefighter complaining of the treatment all firefighters received after 9-11, I don't actually recall if John Schroeder ever said any such thing. Please correct me if I'm wrong and point to the section where he says the buildings collapsed by means of controlled demolition.

i think your right, just watched the "highlights" again, and he doesnt say, only thing he says is something was not right here, about the collapse like he witnessed it and also the loby damage.

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=DBb00PQR1zo

 

[Firestone]

here's a hero some scumbags won't pass up the opportunity to attack :

On the morning of September 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac, Jr. admitted that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job, the police know it’s an inside job, and the firemen know it too.”

“New York firemen were very upset by what they considered a cover-up in the WTC destruction. Many other firemen knew there were bombs in the buildings,’ he said, ‘but they are afraid for their jobs to admit it because the higher-ups forbid discussion of this fact.’ Isaac, who was stationed at Engine 10 near the WTC in the late 1990s, said the higher-ups included the NYFD’s antiterrorism consultant, James Woolsey, a former CIA director. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ Isaac added.”

“It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,”

There are also "scumbags" (to use your delicate wording) who insinuate that almost all the NYPD en FDNY heroes will keep silent about the murder of hundreds of their colleagues, because "they are afraid for their jobs".

The ease with which truthers accuse others of being cowards or complicit with horrendous crimes, without a shred of evidence, will never cease to amaze me.

 

[DC]

So you don't think there were bombs in the towers, or you do think there were bombs but all the people there somehow didn't notice them?

yes i think the towers was brought down in a controlled demolition.

 

[TC329]

There are also "scumbags" (to use your delicate wording) who insinuate that almost all the NYPD en FDNY heroes will keep silent about the murder of hundreds of their colleagues, because "they are afraid for their jobs".

The ease with which truthers accuse others of being cowards or complicit with horrendous crimes, without a shred of evidence, will never cease to amaze me.

Are you calling the man a liar or not?

 

[Dumb All Over]

There's a video of him (interviewed by truthers) where he comes close, but doesn't actually say that. He comes across as suffering from PTSD to me, but I'm no psychiatrist. You can see the video on our favorite web site. Nearly 50 minutes long though...

Thanks, WC. I did watch that video when it first came out. I watched it a couple of times. Avery's (and others') leading questions were disturbing to me. I felt they tried to corner John Schroeder and have him agree with some of their theories. Mr. Schroeder was almost willing to do so as long as Avery gave him a platform for his aftermath issues. Still, I don't believe Schroeder ever agreed to CD.

 

[DavidJames]

Are you calling the man a liar or not?

I believe people who accuse the NY police or fire departments of being complicit in the attacks on 9/11 without a shred of evidence are either mentally ill, charlatans or do not have the ability to think critically. I don't know you or the person you are referring to, but since neither of you have evidence, I believe both of you fit into one of those categories. So either provide your evidence or pick your category.

 

[Firestone]

Are you calling the man a liar or not?

I am not a truther, so I don't accuse without evidence.

All I can say is that the evidence proves Paul Isaac, Jr to be wrong.
There is no way for me to determine wether he is mistaken or lying.

You, on the other hand, accuse almost all the NYPD en FDNY heroes of being cowards or complicit with horrendous crimes, without a shred of evidence.

 

[DC]

when you look how the first responders and family members of 9/11 victims, that do question the official theory, are "judged" by the "OCTers" and ignored by the media. i think alot would think twice to go public.

 

[Sabrina]

when you look how the first responders and family members of 9/11 victims, that do question the official theory, are "judged" by the "OCTers" and ignored by the media. i think alot would think twice to go public.

Our issue is not that they "question the official theory" (by the way, can YOU tell us what the official theory is? Last we knew, there wasn't one particular one endorsed by any government entity.) but that they do so without the slightest shred of proof or evidence; merely "gut feelings" and "suspicions".

Gut feelings and suspicions do not an inside job make, my friend.

 

[Bananaman]

english is not my first lang.
i hate sms.
online dictionarys are faster and for free.
ignore my posts when you cant understand it. im sorry. my english is only as good as it is, not good

OK, I apologise. If English is not your first language then you're not doing badly. Certainly better than I could do in French or German.

Just ditch the abbreviations.

Bananaman.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

OK, so we have 1. Any other takers?

 

[DC]

OK, I apologise. If English is not your first language then you're not doing badly. Certainly better than I could do in French or German.

Just ditch the abbreviations.

Bananaman.

no problem

 

[TC329]

I believe people who accuse the NY police or fire departments of being complicit in the attacks on 9/11 without a shred of evidence are either mentally ill, charlatans or do not have the ability to think critically. I don't know you or the person you are referring to, but since neither of you have evidence, I believe both of you fit into one of those categories. So either provide your evidence or pick your category.

One of us is a 9/11 hero.
Both of us working for the heroes of 9/11 no one else will speak out for.

That out of the way if you have evidence Mr. Isaac or myself are accusing the NYPD and/or FDNY in complicity in the attacks I ask you to present it now.

 

[TC329]

I am not a truther, so I don't accuse without evidence.

All I can say is that the evidence proves Paul Isaac, Jr to be wrong.
There is no way for me to determine wether he is mistaken or lying.

You, on the other hand, accuse almost all the NYPD en FDNY heroes of being cowards or complicit with horrendous crimes, without a shred of evidence.

I am not calling anyone a coward nor am I stating any NYPD and/or FDNY were complicit in the attacks.

 

[Good Lt]

yes i think the towers was brought down in a controlled demolition.

On what evidence do you base this fantasy?

Cite your evidence so that it can be reviewed. If your goal is to convince people of your claim, then refusing to cite evidence so that it can be examined and vetted by others is not going to win you converts (hence, the Troof cult's inherent fear of submitting papers to mainstream journals for peer review).

We're not just going to "take your word for it."

Put up the evidence you've gathered demonstrating a controlled demolition destroyed the Towers, or stop making the idiotic, baseless claims about it.